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bitches
join:2004-08-14
Hartford, CT | 20 HD channels. WOW that just... rocks. I would love for cox to offer 20 HD channels. | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: 20 HD channels. I have similar lineup already: »www.dishnetwork.com/content/prog···ex.shtml
In fact back, when Voom was a DBS provider too, I had around 40 HD channels and my full package with everything was $100 only. I really miss those Spring times... | |
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| fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| I know one thing for sure, someone at Verizon sure doesn't know how to cluster channels in any order that makes sense. HBO in teh 800s and Show int he 400s? Channels are sure scattered.
I am predicting that there will be grumbling from FiOS Tv viewers as just when they get used to this funky line up, someone finally groups them better. This is usually the process of most new cable companies. | |
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scooby
Premium
join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL | looks like the moto 6412 wonder what size hard drives those things have. | |
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Qumahlin
Never Enough Time
Premium,MVM
join:2001-10-05
united state
2 edits | The box Well that user doesn't seem to know much about his equipment :P His DVR should be holding 80 hours of footage...not 30 unless everything is being recorded analog which obviously it shouldn't be analog at all.
All the Verizon box is, is a slightly changed 6412
Only other thing that would make sense for it to hold that little is if the digital tv is even higher bitrate then you would normally see, or if he is recording only HD content which of course takes up much more space
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | Re: The box Then we take all of that, channel it into the FLUX CAPACITOR.
And that is what makes time travel possible. | |
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machpost
join:2002-01-11
Washington, DC
| said by Qumahlin  :Well that user doesn't seem to know much about his equipment :P His DVR should be holding 80 hours of footage...not 30 unless everything is being recorded analog which obviously it shouldn't be analog at all. All the Verizon box is, is a slightly changed 6412 It's probably a DCT 6208, not a 6412. The 6208 has an 80GB hard drive, unlike the 6412's 120GB. | |
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My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | Re: The box ...and the 6208 is a single tuner box as well and not a dual. Is Verizon using single tuners? | |
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs: | modified 6412? Notice the lack of smart card lot on the front right of the box, plus the outputs in the back are layed out a bit diffrently. It is definatly a modified 6412, does anyone know the exact model number? | |
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Ebolla
join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA | Re: modified 6412? likely a 3412, same as 6412 but digital only, no analog tuner, doesnt have card slot on front | |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
 ·Optimum Online
| I wish I wish Verizon was in my area.. I'm be all over this Fios.
I wonder if you can run your own personal email / webserver with Fios.. My guess is that it would be frowned upon.
Anyone know for sure?
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JeepMatt
Delaware Fios
Premium
join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE | Re: I wish That is an EXCELLENT cable lineup.
No CSTV, but just about everything else! 
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
clubs:
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| said by packetscan :I wish Verizon was in my area.. I'm be all over this Fios. I wonder if you can run your own personal email / webserver with Fios.. My guess is that it would be frowned upon. Anyone know for sure? Hmm I just moved from Bridgeport to Greenwich, Bridgeport would be SBC right? well SBC & Cablevision.
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | Re: I wish Yea Sbc and Optimum.. The Dynamic Duo.
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| shuubz
A Good Kind Of Pain
join:2001-02-12
Dexter, MI
1 edit | The techs (all of them) told me I could run whatever I want. No ports blocked. The only downside: no static IP available for residential service in my area.
We just upgraded to business 15Mb/2Mb with 5 IP's and a much better SLA, which is $99/mo (up from $45/mo residential) plus a $300 AdTran router. The install is on the 25th. Very much looking forward.
I deployed a JMPP (Jive Messenger) server for the house today, will be able to provide encrypted chat to all my Mac users, worldwide (they travel a lot), including audio chat, with no extra configuration.
Sweet.
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mikeeo
Premium
join:2000-03-12
Newark, DE | Re: Congrats to VZ. Comcast doesn't have the RF spectrum to carry so many HD channels while still providing analog. | |
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horn dog
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| Oh to hell with the Fiber TV and all the nifty channels.
I just want one of these...
Think if I'm real good, santa will put one under my tree so I can stuff it Christmas morning???
Come on Santa... Be a sport will ya??? | |
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Spiral
No Easy Way To Be Free.
Premium
join:2003-03-04
Baltimore, MD
| Re: Congrats to VZ. that's right...I can't get FIOS, but I'll take the I4U Model of the Month!
said by horn dog :
Oh to hell with the Fiber TV and all the nifty channels.
I just want one of these...
Think if I'm real good, santa will put one under my tree so I can stuff it Christmas morning???
Come on Santa... Be a sport will ya???
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: size of a boat? I agree I have the dual tuner DVR..i think it's the 501 same as pic in link.
It's not huge by any means considering it has a 100 gig. | |
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Toadman
How do you like these Apples
join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
1 edit | I miss my dish network DVR, I had a 510, just recently switched over to cable because Dish Network is out of their mind expecting an existing customer to shell out $600 + dollars for a HD PVR. Now I have a Moto 6400, nowhere near the ease of use like the dish network reciever. No 30sec skip ahead button, the highest fast forward on the moto 6400 is 1/4 the speed of the dish network DVR. And don't even get me started on the remote, it is the same as the one in the picture for the verizon unit, too small and the buttons are not laid out correctly.
I do like moto's series record feature though... | |
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@taconic.net | Hey i have a dishdvr too! I love mine, its way better than all this cable crap, and i also have dsl.. i might like verizon fios tv and internet, but since it isnt here illl stay with dish and the dsl from the local phone company.. No Cable for me.. | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| Sounds a bit 'too enthusiastic'... ...especially when I read such idiotic FUD like this:
I4U: Anything that reminds you that it is not cable or satellite?
Craig: I know that it is not satellite because it rained over the weekend and we all know what happens then.
Yes, we all know, Craig. Nothing happens then.
This 'rainy' and 'snowy' scaremongering is the good-ol' cable FUD - it's very interesting this guy suddenly soughs up the same marketing cvrap we hear from both sides all the time ("it's raining so you're screwed!" "even if it's average digital package, you're payi9ng twice as much on cable!" etc.)
I don't know... FiOS sounds awesome but this "user interview" smells fishy to me. | |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| Re: Sounds a bit 'too enthusiastic'... said by what ever :i have dish and every time it rains or snows i lose my signal for a while, it is a good way to know when a thunderstorm is approaching, approx 10 min before..  but i would still never go to cable. Then your system isn't properly installed and/or you need a bigger dish. | |
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
Home
| Ok... This might be off topic, but I just want to ask...
Why is it that cable companies are faulted on trying to get people to switch to the same thing that by default FIOS TV and Satellite provide?
I'm talking about a digital box. (Yes, I know that Satellite really can't work any other way. )
Whenever talk comes up about a cable company trying to switch its customers to all digital to free up analog, people go nuts and say they can't force, blah, blah, blah.
Yet, people praise FIOS for having 20 HDTV channels and possibly a lower compression ratio on channels. Well, yeah, they don't have to deal with the analog spectrum, they can use all of the RF spectrum for digital channels.
How come no one complains that FIOS isn't pumping some analog over their coax so that people with analog cable can switch to them?
If cable tried to do this, people would be in an uproar.
"Oh god no! I don't want a set top box!!"
Yeah, the cable companies charge a lot of money, this is indeed a problem I don't overlook. And perhaps FIOS TV will force them to compete better. And in a way, it can be "unfair" (I use that word lightly) to the cable companies, since they're pretty much forced to keep offering analog.
But there does seem to be a double standard when it comes to this. FIOS gets praise for its all digital TV, cable gets blasted when it comes up that they want to switch everyone to digital.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just trying to understand. | |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| Re: Ok... said by smcallah :How come no one complains that FIOS isn't pumping some analog over their coax so that people with analog cable can switch to them? Because analog is dead and it's time to move on. That's why having competition is good... if people are so hell bent on sticking with analog, crappy channels... then they can stay with the local cable company. If they want channels that look good... they switch.
You're comparing two totally seperate things. Verizon is going to be the secondary provider in communities... not a single provider. The reason people bitch about cable going all digital is because it will force people to upgrade and pay more since there is no other choice... FIOS will provide that choice.
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Woof Woof
I Miss Brother Iz
join:2004-09-01
Keller, TX
| Re: Ok... They are doing analog as well as digital. The locals, and govt. channels are pumped over the fiber as both Analog and digital. The analog-only tier is $12.95.
Don't even start that "how do you do analog over fiber?" nonsense. It has been discussed ad-nauseum in the Verizon Fiber forums. | |
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join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC | Re: Ok... And digital does not a good program make.
Still the same old poo, just coming to you over a different medium.
FWIW, we have 18 (including 1 HDVOD) HD channels here. | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home
| said by Woof Woof :Don't even start that "how do you do analog over fiber?" nonsense. It has been discussed ad-nauseum in the Verizon Fiber forums. And who do you think was going to "start that?"
Cable companies have been doing analog over fiber for several years now. Is there anyone that doubts that?
But thanks for the info, I did not realize that FIOS TV had an analog tier. | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home
| said by Jmartz :You're comparing two totally seperate things. Verizon is going to be the secondary provider in communities... not a single provider. The reason people bitch about cable going all digital is because it will force people to upgrade and pay more since there is no other choice... FIOS will provide that choice. I'm not comparing 2 separate things. I'm comparing 2 companies offering televison service in the same market.
Why should the older company be held to any different standards just because there is someone new?
It's just like I said, there is a double standard.
It's not like Verizon is a great company for consumers or anything either. | |
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Eric Martin
join:2005-06-19
66308 |  $$$$$$$$
Yeah , It's priced just right for the richer folk.
Not something for the average person.
This is why we need muni fios to compete against these guys.
We need LOW COST FIBER TO THE HOME !!!! | |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Re: $$$$$$$$ Whats all this yapping how much it really is ?? | |
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SuperG03
Premium
join:2004-01-26
00000
1 edit | RE: Channel Lineup To the user who was talking about the channel lineup problem.
If you actually look at the fios tv lineup, the movie channel lineups start at 340 and go until about 430. In that, they have Starz!, Encore, Showtime, The Movie Channel, Flix, Inde channel, HBO, and Cinemax, all back to back. The 800 channel he was talking about was actually 830-834, which is HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, The Movie Channel, and Starz! in High Def. VZ has grouped all the high def channels together from 801-834 (inluding, local, sports, and movie channels). I can't wait for this to come to my part of TX.
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ckgigi
join:2005-10-22
New York, NY | can't wait I'm really excited for fios internet and tv to come to my area. I might do a market research project on this new technology. Where would you market fios for the 13-24 year old market? Do you think that is a good market? | |
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Fios TV Impressions
Sounds almost identical to Comcast w DVR & VOD
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