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join:2000-12-18
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| Re: cable vs dsl where are our folks from Comcast in this thread to defend him Huh???? 
Everyone I know who knows about FIOS says the same thing, "As soon as FIOS is available where I live, Comcast is outa here!" | |
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Good buisness sense? Yea, how dare someone have a company that makes a profit.
I'm a stockholder. Sounds good to me. | |
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| Re: cable vs dsl said by LeftofSanity :
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Good buisness sense? ....
I'm a stockholder. Sounds good to me.
Good business sense? Yes, for a monopoly. Unfortunately, that's what monopolies do, at the expense of customers who have no other choice. And I'm sure the stockholders are luvin it.
Us customers don't have to like it though. | |
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join:2003-11-26
Portland, OR
| Re: cable vs dsl Monopolies imply no competition. If you feel Comcast has no competition then I'd say the company is doing a pretty damn good job to make you feel there is no other logical choice. Makes me happy to be a stockholder.
Cable is not a monopoly. You don't choose which cable company you want for your telecommunications. You choose which technology you want for telecommunications.
TV: satellite, FIOS, cable
Internet: dial-up, DSL, cable
Phone: analog, cable, voip
it doesn't look like comcast (or any other cable company) is competition free in any of those fields. | |
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Sent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Jackson, MS
·Cox HSI
| Re: cable vs dsl
There is competition and more of it every day.
Add "Wireless" to the list of Internet and Phone competitors.
These "Monopoly!" babbling idiots exhaust me.
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join:2000-06-01
Silver Spring, MD
| Its the middle of the day, so they're internet is probably down. they'll post there answers after 5pm, when comcrap turns they service back on.
speaking of being available.....is FIOS available for multiple dwelling units? I checked in July and they said it was not yet possible to wire individual apartments....thats the only thing stopping me from ditching comcrap. | |
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Premium
join:2004-03-05
Knoxville, TN
| Re: cable vs dsl said by psychomf  :Its the middle of the day, so they're internet is probably down. they'll post there answers after 5pm, when comcrap turns they service back on. speaking of being available.....is FIOS available for multiple dwelling units? I checked in July and they said it was not yet possible to wire individual apartments....thats the only thing stopping me from ditching comcrap. If the intelligent internet users are lucky yours will never be "turned back on".
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jhboricua
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join:2000-06-06
Minneapolis, MN
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
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| Re: cable vs dsl said by jhboricua :They interleave ALL DSL connections. It's a major PITA. EUW! WTFO?
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EnasYorl
Thieves World
join:2001-12-02
West | So they will not allow you to switch to Fast Path? | |
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Heavily MODerated
Premium
join:2002-11-21
USA
| Can't get DSL where I live. Comcast has been very reliable in my area over the years. but, I too would like a choice instead of only 1 option. FIOS is slowly but surely coming to DE.
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owenhome
keeper of the magic blue smoke
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Wichita Falls, TX | Typical Typical "head stuck in the sand" comment.
If they ignore it, the big bad mean Mr. FIOS will go away.
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Ronnie1055
Premium
join:2004-06-25
Carrollton, TX | Re: Typical Since I was a previous Comcast customer... almost 4 years..
Here is my take Roberts....
Comcast = Yugo
FIOS = BMW | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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| Re: Typical said by Ronnie1055 :Since I was a previous Comcast customer... almost 4 years.. Here is my take Roberts.... Comcast = Yugo Ford Pinto FIOS = BMW Fixed it for you.
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Thieves World
join:2001-12-02
West
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| Re: Typical said by BosstonesOwn :said by Ronnie1055 :Since I was a previous Comcast customer... almost 4 years.. Here is my take Roberts.... Comcast = Yugo Ford Pinto w/ flat tireFIOS = BMW Fixed it for you. | |
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join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | Re: Typical I think it's more like a Ford Jaguar or an italian sports car. Nice, flashly and expensive, but not known for its reliability!
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Typical said by djrobx :I think it's more like a Ford Jaguar or an italian sports car. Nice, flashly and expensive, but not known for its reliability! You mean any ford/jaguar/ford by product ?
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guitarzan
Premium
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Skytop, PA
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| said by EnasYorl :said by BosstonesOwn :said by Ronnie1055 :Since I was a previous Comcast customer... almost 4 years.. Here is my take Roberts.... Comcast = Yugo Ford Pinto w/ flat tire.No spare and the garage is closedFIOS = BMW Fixed it for you.
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
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| Over Priced Cable internet is over priced..
49.99 a month for cable when dsl is between 14.00 and 29.99.
Don't even get me started on how much they whack you for cable Tv service, then try to sue you for downloading something that was just aired on HBO.. Um seems like fair use to me.
There needs to be a TOTAL revamp in pricing, and it can't happen soon enough.
This is why people are downloading in the fashion they are. Hell they are paying for it anyway. | |
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join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH | Re: Over Priced I will just laugh my ass off in a couple of years when IPTV really gets deployed and popular, and their company is left in the red because of a lack of motivation! lol | |
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Jim Gurd
Premium
join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI
·Comcast
| said by packetscan :Cable internet is over priced.. 49.99 a month for cable when dsl is between 14.00 and 29.99. These are promotional prices you are quoting. How much will they charge after the first year?
DSL is hit or miss. Distance from the CO is critical. I can't get DSL even though it is available in my local CO because I am 22000 feet away. Right now cable is my only option. The service is good but I would settle for the slower DSL speeds if I could get a lower price. Due to distance that's not an option for me. | |
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | Re: Over Priced 29.99 is the regular rate.
Thus why i included it.
So i included the promotional price and the regular price.
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christos
join:2002-01-09
Bridgewater, MA
·Comcast Formerly ..
| Re: Over Priced said by packetscan :29.99 is the regular rate. Thus why i included it. So i included the promotional price and the regular price. Thanks Also, $29.99 includes newsgroups. Comca$st gives you enough to download the headers from a busy group and then you pay after that. You should add $15 to the already high price of cable to compare apples to apples. | |
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dadkins
Go For It
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: Over Priced While Comcast does have a 2GB Giganews limit, headers are not included in this limit.
If you want a REAL newsgroup... pay for it.
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join:2002-01-09
Bridgewater, MA
·Comcast Formerly ..
| Re: Over Priced said by dadkins :If you want a REAL newsgroup... pay for it. Its better to cut my bill by $28 per month and take the missus for dinner  Verizon includes newsgroups. | |
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dadkins
Go For It
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Over Priced said by christos :said by dadkins :If you want a REAL newsgroup... pay for it. Its better to cut my bill by $28 per month and take the missus for dinner Verizon includes newsgroups. Better to have faster speeds and download from a real Newsgroup service. More = Better.
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join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA
·Verizon Online DSL
·Charter Pipeline
| Yeah that's right, a family member has Comcast (cable, voice, internet) and is paying $70 (voice - unlimited/data - 5mb DOWN/512k UP). Plus about $35 or so for the cable portion. So about $100 but after the 1st year I believe voice is going to be $40-45 plus internet about 40-45 so 80-90 plus the $35. Too bad her street is fed for fiber, that is the only option (cable) until FIOS comes along. Well we have about 10 months.
At my home I am out at 18,900 ft. so the only option other than my vonage/cable connection would be POTs/DSL (700/100), this maybe cheaper again since I have plently of cell minutes but currently I am on a promotion, well give it another 6 mos. | |
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Cable co's dont try to sue you for downloading anything from HBO. Get your info straight. | |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
Premium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | DSL sucks unless you live close to the tower thats a fact you really cant argue most people live where they cant get dsl (like me) so we just wait for verizon to build in our area untill then where screwed | |
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Over Priced said by MysticGogeta :DSL sucks unless you live close to the tower thats a fact you really cant argue most people live where they cant get dsl (like me) so we just wait for verizon to build in our area untill then where screwed Try a period or two in your posts please... but for the record, I think you meant to say CO or Central Office and not tower.  | |
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
| said by packetscan :Cable internet is over priced.. 49.99 a month for cable when dsl is between 14.00 and 29.99. Yawn... and what's the speed of that package? ahh yes a measly 1.5Mbps(sync rate, before overhead). No thanks, I'll take $40 a month cable internet service with 6Mbps/650Kbps speeds. You can keep that pokey cheap DSL package.  | |
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Ryven
join:2003-11-26
Portland, OR
| Cable ≠ DSL
seriously, thinking they should be the same price is like saying you should be able to get a new $500 video card for the price of the top model from 2 years ago. When DSL matches the reliability & speeds of cable then the cable companies will match the price. You get what you pay for.
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toadlife
Premium
join:2004-05-03
Coalinga, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: Over Priced said by Ryven :When DSL matches the reliability & speeds of cable then the cable companies will match the price. You get what you pay for. Cable is NOT more reliable than DSL.
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Go_Offline
join:2001-10-12
Surprise, AZ
| Re: Over Priced now now, kids.
this has everything to do with your specific neighborhood and provider.
i have 4000/512 Cox cable outside of Phoenix, AZ and I've hard nary a problem in 3 years.
i don't work for cox. I'm not even "pro-cox". but in my specific area, i'd be nickel and diming myself to death when it came to broadband service if i start running comparisons to qwest (which has notoriously inconsistent service, especially customer service, in this area).
plus, to add a little perspective (what so many of the type that frequent this site lack), how much do you "shop" for other things. say, your cappuccino or toilet paper.
i've yet to see a case made that takes into account the countless regional variables to do any soul a lick of good. | |
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toadlife
Premium
join:2004-05-03
Coalinga, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: Over Priced fair enough. Blanket statements about how one is more reliable than the other are not fair. I am one of those who has had DSL for over two years now and have had 12 hours of downtime in that time...an ATM switch blew up a month ago and caused those 12 hours. On the other hand, the cable service in my town, when it was still avaialable, was very, very, unreliable.
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Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| then cable is like a BMW, overpriced. the cheap asian import(DSL) still gets ya there on time. however i prefer cable to DSL because its what is stable and holds sync at my location.
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dadkins
Go For It
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Well, DUH! Seeing as FIOS isn't in many areas(yet), it isn't any threat to Comcast.
As soon as FIOS becomes a threat, I have a feeling he may change his outlook.
Yes, I like my Comcast connection.
No, FIOS is not on the horizon here, so it's a non-issue.
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bokamba
Chengdu Rocks
Premium
join:2002-04-05
Falls Church, VA | Actually, they do switch BMW customers do switch if Hyundai drops its prices. Just not very many. It's called cross-price elasticity, if I remember correctly from my college econ class. And he's pretending demand for cable is very inelastic. | |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| Re: Actually, they do switch said by bokamba :BMW customers do switch if Hyundai drops its prices. Just not very many. You'd be surprised, I have a friend who bought a brand new BMW that he hates now that he's had it for about a year. He drove my Elantra and really liked it...then I told him mine cost less than $12000. He went to the car lot the other day to look at Sonatas.
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Actually, they do switch said by Combat Chuck :said by bokamba :BMW customers do switch if Hyundai drops its prices. Just not very many. You'd be surprised, I have a friend who bought a brand new BMW that he hates now that he's had it for about a year. He drove my Elantra and really liked it...then I told him mine cost less than $12000. He went to the car lot the other day to look at Sonatas. I bought my wife a Mercedes clk 230 after not even a year she was looking at Toyota Camry or a Hyundai elantra.
They completely ignore the fact that people can not keep paying these prices for service. The housing market is starting to crumble as well, when people have this same idea. Now many are trying to dump housing while they can.
If you don't lower prices people will start moving to other services to lower their costs. That is the way things are. Sure the people who are not price conscious may not , and people who are not akin to change may not also but as people are becoming more conscious about prices, things have to change.
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oneprecent
| 1% of all lines Less than one percent of all subscriber lines even have FIOS as an option. Despite the rollouts, its still a slow process.
But when its mainstreamed, it will be big.
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
Levittown, PA
| Re: 1% of all lines Also consider that the major factor in hampering the rollout to many areas is that Comcast legal-blocking Verizon in municipalities. (see previous broadband reports headlines)
For those BreakMyWindow drivers, its a matter of status or speed. Hyundai quality control has improved threefold over previous years where BMW has refined (iDrive?) its cars. They still handle like a sports car, and drink fuel like its free. Where Hyundai cars now threaten Honda, Toyota and Nissan.(Big Three Japanese). And KIA (killedInAction) is hot on Hyundai tails.
I have Fios (ground access panel) outside my house. I am waiting to build a powerpanel near my POE so I can feed my townhome (yes, a townhome with Cat5E and fiber backbone from basement to attic) and subscribe to Fios. Then its bye bye Comquat. $96/month for BASIC/Standard cable (analog) and internet. Its gone up $10 since last April. For what? I tried Digital and its 400 more channels of shopping/gambling/religion/language/music that I could care less about.
IpeeTeeVee. Too long a wait to hope for. I found a nice DirectTV deal and Fios (until its carries channels here) deal for $60/month with more channels and faster pipe.
So tell me, Mr Comcast, a Hyundai rides more reliably, cheaper and faster than a BMW? (corporate analogies are like dictators ... they are right or they shoot you) | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| He's a idiot I've heard analyists say that FIOS at full deployment could impact only about 5-8% of their customer base. That may be just Verizon's deployments and not BS or SBC. The company that's worried and not spouting off at the mouth is Cablevision inc. They have 20-30% of their customer base they stand to lose.
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join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
| Re: He's a idiot I'm a CV customer on the triple play deal (digital tv, internet (10Mbps/1Mbps), and voip for $89.95+tax for one year) but also live in an apartment. From what I understand, apartments won't see FIOS for some time, if ever (at least existing complexes).
While I love to have the latest and greatest... there is only one condition under which I would move to FIOS... lower ping times to the west coast. These 80-90ms pings are killing me... literally when it comes to Xbox Live!!!! I make enough money that cost wouldn't be THAT big an issue. | |
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@209.144.x.x
| Localized monopolies... Comcast established an "exclusive agreement" with the property company that holds my apartment complex several years ago. The property company, LPC, holds a *large* number of apartments here in Dallas. Comcast goes in and establishes localized monopolies at each of them. If you want DSL in the same area, it's really a very difficult fight between you, the property company, Comcast, and whoever you have for a DSL provider.
Then when you DO win the fight, your up front fees for the DSL install are insane... somewhere on the order of $500-$700 for the friends I've had do it. Unfortunately, the speed usually is worse for the same or slightly lower monthly price, and to get better speed you pay a lot more.
So long as Comcast can put enough money in the right pockets to get agreements like this, they'll happily bury their heads in the sand. | |
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| Re: Localized monopolies... Uhhh...why is that Comcast's fault? Maybe the property management shouldn't of signed it? Ya think? Let me guess, they didn't have a choice right? | |
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| fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| said by 3-D :
Comcast established an "exclusive agreement" with the property company that holds my apartment complex several years ago. The property company, LPC, holds a *large* number of apartments here in Dallas. Comcast goes in and establishes localized monopolies at each of them. If you want DSL in the same area, it's really a very difficult fight between you, the property company, Comcast, and whoever you have for a DSL provider.
Does Comcast offer phone to you as well in your complex? It does happen, but it's rare, that a single provider will be able to lay all three services in a complex or housing area. I know it's happened in AZ with Qwest, but usually the telco company is the one that gets an exclusive deal.
When it comes to an apartment complex, usually only one television provider will get the contract. Sometimes a SMATV satellite company will win over cable, and sometimes it's cable. In these situations, it's not called a "monopoly", well, maybe you think it's one, but in your situation since you are a renter, it's the land owner that can and does make the decision as to who will be the vendor for their residents.
If you don't like having only one choice of provider in your building, your only remedy is to move since the owner of the property decided to grant the contract of entry to cable. | |
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WickedWinter
join:2003-08-02
Tybee Island, GA | Cable = BMW? Would a BMW customer sit around weeks or months waiting to get their car fixed whenever it brakes? Comcast = Yogo powered Renault left-hand-drive Hovercraft.
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join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
| Re: Cable = BMW? You got it.
Imagine telephoning your local BMW dealer:
"Hello my BMW internet keeps cutting out on the highway and then when I restart I crawl along at 5 mph between 5:00 -7:00 p.m. until I can cruise again on the highway after 7:30 p.m. at 65 mph. What you can't fix this? I am the only person complaining, so I have to put up with it?" | |
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ieolus
Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA
| As a BMW owner, I'm insulted by Comcast's analogy. By buying a BMW, I actually bought a better car... Comcast is dreaming if they really think Cable is better than DSL or any other broadband service.
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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| Yeah, much like a BMW lease... ...you drive to much and you get a penalty. And given Hyundai's superior quality rating, and BMWs being overpriced for what you get, and the Comcrap portal is much like the very lame and bloated iDrive, Roberts comparison is more accurate than he knows.
However, unlike BMW, Comcrap doesn't stand behind their product. BMW doesn't have a blame the customer first attitude.
Having had both, my DSL is more of a Lexus LS430...not quite the wheelbase, not quite as fast but a great value with superior reliability and FIOS, a Porsche Carrera GT.
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guitarzan
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Skytop, PA | Re: Yeah, much like a BMW lease... Great anology Oliphant ! That's funny but true. Thanks Oliphant | |
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
| An Example of a Bad Leader A good leader would be more proactive. Demagoguery will not make the competition go away and often is the famous last act before the fall. I hope Comcast investors are listening and tell the board to fire the CEO.
As for FIOS and DSL Comcast can exploit its position. First of all DSL is dependant on the distance from the central office and FIOS only covers single family homes. I live in an large apartment complex that is a hole in a sea of FIOS. Verizon has decided not to brig fiber to apartment complexes. From a marketing standpoint, FIOS is a disaster waiting to happen. I am skeptical of any business model that excludes a large portion of potential customer base. | |
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HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO
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| Push content???? "Comcast chief hints at plan to compete
Cable firm to push content as Verizon mounts challenge"
Who in the blue hell CARES about content Roberts? Nice AOL mentality. Anything u try to offer can be already had on the web for free.....this isn't looking very good. How about upping the slowwwwwwww upload speed for us that are on 384k. yer competition is already higher. Yer a full 1/3 the speed Qwest already has here with upload. I will be happy the day that Verizon buys Qwest and starts putting Fios all over the place. Oh wait....Denver has that RFP out for free wireless that yer fighting! I forgot about that! lol Get real Roberts....and start making some waves. Just because yer the biggest doesn't mean yer the best, that's like comparing McDonalds to Carl's Jr. Why not try impresing yer customers with speed and stop running away and fighting things like UTOPIA in the courts. It's CLEAR what people want.
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join:2005-07-11 | Same crap FIOS is the latest and greatest right now. But soon all will realize it's the same stuff that Cable Co.s are doing and nothing different. | |
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX | Globe Fact Checking Sucks "Verizon debuted its new television service that runs over fiber-optic cables in Keller, a Houston suburb, on Sept. 22."
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL
·Bright House
| Comparing apple to oranges His analogy of comparing a person who buys a BMW to a person who buys a Hyundai is poor. People who drive a BMW wouldn't switch to buy a Hyundai. People who buy a BMW likes the prestige of driving one not caring how much it costs.
So is he really saying that Comcast is comparable to the prestige of owning BMW? | |
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Comparing apple to oranges said by viperpa33s :His analogy of comparing a person who buys a BMW to a person who buys a Hyundai is poor. People who drive a BMW wouldn't switch to buy a Hyundai. People who buy a BMW likes the prestige of driving one not caring how much it costs. So is he really saying that Comcast is comparable to the prestige of owning BMW? Man, talk about an over analgy. How many BMW/HYUNDAI forums are going to appear with the same old BS? Get over the analagy. Break it down simple: he's using a more expensive vehicle wich offers more than a lower priced hyundai that get's you from a to b.
You guys nit pick everthing to death and really, it's not a prerty color on many of you. I would like to see a forum opened about those that bitch about broadband everyday in their life and how much it shortens their life spans.
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