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voiplover
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join:2004-05-28
Portsmouth, NH | Re: Wow. >>>........Pain in the A55...... | |
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Maarvin
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join:2005-04-11
Denver, CO
1 edit | Re: Wow. If their servers have security problems, what does that say about Mozilla Firefox software? | |
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Dipsomaniac
Oh My, Yes.
join:2001-12-12
Toronto, ON | Re: Wow. Pretty much nothing, actually. | |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
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| said by Maarvin  :If there servers have security problems, what does that say about Mozilla Firefox software? Nothing. Firefox isn't wiki software, nor is it web server software. One would imagine that would be obvious...
Anyhow:
»twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWi···tyAlerts
TWiki looks like good software to steer clear of. | |
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by Maarvin :If there servers have security problems, what does that say about Mozilla Firefox software? I dunno. What do all the sites that've been hacked running IIS say about IE?  | |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL | nothing. since anything can be hacked. | |
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join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI | Congratulations on appearing clueless. | |
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Vin DSL
join:2002-08-10
Gilbert, AZ
| The only secure web sites in the shark-infested waters of the Internet are ones that are offline, and they took the appropriate course of action[s], and took their Wiki web site down. Yawn...
So, what else is new?
Well, for one, I've recently put Firefox on the back burner. Yes, I still do the 'nightlies', but Firefox is working so good these days that it's about as exciting as brushing your teeth.
My new 'love' is SeaMonkey 1.1 alpha. It's buggier than a lollipop in an ant farm, but it's *fun* to go over Mozilla.org and launch bug reports, et cetera. At least I think it's fun. Who can get excited about Firefox these days?
So, if Firefox is making YOU yawn, you're looking for some action, and/or you want to impress your Firefox friends with how cutting-edge you are, I strongly urge you to try SeaMonkey. Basically, it's a Firefox 1,5 core with a Mozilla GUI. It's so friggin' edgy it doesn't even have an official logo yet...
»www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/
Be there or be square!
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9a1)
Gecko/20050929 SeaMonkey/1.1a
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scooby
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join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL
| Re: Spread FF site redirected to Mozilla said by TKJunkMail :Maybe they should use Windows Server 2003 instead of open source server code.;) Did you read the headlines? Apache was not the issue. An application running via apache caused the problem. Like there arent a million ways to root windows server 2003 without any apps installed. | |
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| amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
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| either way, 2 weeks is a long time! Couldn't they at least salvage most of it???
Why on earth they would do it "from scratch" is beyond me.
...That would be funny if server '03 were used to host an open source site.
I'm thinking they're taking the engineer "Scotty" approach and saying 2 weeks just in case, when in fact they'll probably have it up in less than a week. Spreading FF is kind of already happening without a website dedicated to it.
Either people want to try something, or they don't. I still use both IE and FF on and off. Mostly FF since ver. 0.8 since I was once, a long long time ago, a fan of Netscape. | |
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geekamongus
Real Slump Quality
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join:2004-07-27
Asheville, NC
| Re: Spread FF site redirected to Mozilla said by amungus :I'm thinking they're taking the engineer "Scotty" approach and saying 2 weeks just in case, when in fact they'll probably have it up in less than a week. The key to success: underpromise, overdeliver.
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join:2001-03-15
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| said by amungus :Why on earth they would do it "from scratch" is beyond me. Partly because once a system is compromised, its no longer a trusted system. In the process of compromising the Wiki, its possible that the people responsible were able to find a way to install a root kit or a packet sniffer. Since the system can't be trusted, its best to blow everything away so that, even after you fix the exploit, you don't have some nastyware running on the system.
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ifarrell
join:2000-08-10
Willow Spring, NC | Well I guess Scotty never worked for Microsoft since they can't deliver anything on time. | |
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WiZZLa
Insert Meaningless Text Here -Run 4a Mod
join:2003-11-09
Canada
| Microsoft Hired Hackers? Maybe the hackers Microsoft "hired" to try to exploit and figure out the bugs in IE7 are taking some extra incentive.
I'm kidding of course, but it is funny that after Microsoft said they were working with hackers to find vulnerabilities in IE7, the spreadFF site is hacked. | |
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join:2002-07-02
7th Layer
| Re: Microsoft Hired Hackers? said by WiZZLa :Maybe the hackers Microsoft "hired" to try to exploit and figure out the bugs in IE7 are taking some extra incentive. I'm kidding of course, but it is funny that after Microsoft said they were working with hackers to find vulnerabilities in IE7, the spreadFF site is hacked. OK children the word of the day is "Conspiracy"
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join:2003-10-14
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join:2002-07-02
7th Layer
| Re: Microsoft Hired Hackers? said by Vvian Kalyss :Get your tinfoil hat now... while stocks last. LOL;)
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Insert Meaningless Text Here -Run 4a Mod
join:2003-11-09
Canada
| said by AcidDevil :OK children the word of the day is "Conspiracy" Actually, it would be two words, "conspiracy theory." | |
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7th Layer
| Re: Microsoft Hired Hackers? said by WiZZLa :said by AcidDevil :OK children the word of the day is "Conspiracy" Actually, it would be two words, "conspiracy theory." I stand corrected Sir
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Dipsomaniac
Oh My, Yes.
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Toronto, ON
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| Re: Trust Don't be an idiot. The breach was in the TWiki software. Don't you think the blame for that goes to the authors of that software, or are you just eager to piss on the browser for any reason?
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join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI | Re: Trust Did your desktop theme come with a membership to NAMBLA and a limited edition litho of the Wizard of Oz?
Sheesh. | |
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sbrook
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join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0 | Another recall brought to you by Ford ... what does that say for the Corolla?
My word the logic some people use is beyond belief. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | What? No Imaging of the servers?  | |
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HardwareGeek
join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: What? If that were the case so many server admins wouldn't find them selves patching and configuring their firewall software.
Only a Fanboy who pretends to have a clue would claim a software is unhackable.
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| Re: What? And only a Fanboy would also claim that IIS, IE, and Windows are superior to their openSource counterparts. They're all viable and they all have vulnerabilities. | |
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by dadkins :No Imaging of the servers? I don't think imaging is the problem, but more of a fact of security. They could easily re-publish the same site, but then they'd be vulnerable to the same ol' s*** again.
Development of a new site that's not reliant upon unreliable software would be needed. | |
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| said by dadkins :No Imaging of the servers? Its difficult to image servers that busy... Once the image is completed, you already have an image that's outdated because Wikis and forums are constantly changing. Images are only really affective when you have a system that doesn't have a lot of constantly changing information.
As well, if you were hacked, reimaging the server would put it back up in a vulnerable state.
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knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
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| OK, for all the non tech people here Just to explain, this has nothing to do with the Firefox Browser being open to TWiki software exploits. That's like saying "Because your car outside is Red, it means your Microsoft Office Word has an exploit in it". Those that post about how everything was hacked are just making the rest of us laugh at you. Please save yourself from posting silly comments as such. For those that want to be silly, then carry on, I enjoy the humor. | |
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join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD
| Re: OK, for all the non tech people here said by knightmb :Just to explain, this has nothing to do with the Firefox Browser being open to TWiki software exploits. That's like saying "Because your car outside is Red, it means your Microsoft Office Word has an exploit in it". Those that post about how everything was hacked are just making the rest of us laugh at you. Please save yourself from posting silly comments as such. For those that want to be silly, then carry on, I enjoy the humor. OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!...AHHHH!!! I have a red car. LMKAO!!! | |
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insomniac
Oh Yeah
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Naperville, IL
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| I like Firefox as much as the next guy, but... ... the TWiki vulnerability is more than two weeks old. One would expect the administrators of such a public Web site to be more vigilant about security.
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join:2002-01-02
Needham, MA
| Re: I like Firefox as much as the next guy, but... I'm no security expert, but:
They could have patched the server 1 day after news of the exploit was made available. However, by then it could be too late... the exploit was used to gain root access, and once that's done they've got to rebuild from scratch to be 100% sure that the site is secure.
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join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY
| This just shows That when you have an open source browser and you are busy patching all the flaws that have been poping up lately (a number that rivals IE) its hard to keep your server software up to date. Because every ones busy patching FF.
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join:2005-05-14
Erlanger, KY | Re: This just shows Leave the Pope out of it. He has nothing to do with all flaws POPPING up lately. | |
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bit_junkie
join:2004-05-04
Maricopa, AZ
| Re: This just shows said by neo456 :Leave the Pope out of it. He has nothing to do with all flaws POPPING up lately. I about pi$$ed my pants when i read that,
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join:2005-07-14
south africa | Oh too cool... thanks for spotting that one.:D | |
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Ryan F
Take Back The Web
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join:2002-10-18
Alexandria, VA
| said by HardwareGeek :That when you have an open source browser and you are busy patching all the flaws that have been poping up lately (a number that rivals IE) its hard to keep your server software up to date. Because every ones busy patching FF. What an ignorant statement. Read: Software Developer != Server Administrator. Spreadfirefox isn't maintained by any of the core developers.
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Oh yes, because 24 is much greater than 86. Heck, IE has almost 24 unpatched vulnerabilities. | |
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Time
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join:2003-07-05 | Jeez And some people claim Microsoft is bad? | |
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Scree
In the pipe 5 by 5
join:2001-04-24
Mount Laurel, NJ | Re: Jeez Most people claim everything is bad, so as Seinfeld would say, "That's a shame" | |
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Microsoft isn't bad, it's customers are just too illiterate. | |
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Blackraven
I Am Always Left
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join:2005-06-27
USA.
| said by Time :And some people claim Microsoft is bad? Are you a hacker? Just curious. | |
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Augustus III
If Only Rome Could See Us Now....
join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA | so Being so "secure" does this mean it ran microsoft or some unknown copy of unix? | |
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Dipsomaniac
Oh My, Yes.
join:2001-12-12
Toronto, ON | Re: so The OS was not the problem. RTFA. | |
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | What I think I have no bias for or against Firefox or IE. I just think that a company that touts security in it's browser should know how to secure their own web site regardless of the software run on it.
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Re: What I think said by jsouth :I have no bias for or against Firefox or IE. I just think that a company that touts security in it's browser should know how to secure their own web site regardless of the software run on it. Their business is Browsers. Not OS.
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Jsouth
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Wichita, KS | Re: What I think True, but they should still know something about OS security since the browser ties into that.
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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| Re: What I think said by jsouth :True, but they should still know something about OS security since the browser ties into that. And I'm sure they do know about the Windows Operating System. But their system was running Redhat with Apache 2.0.52
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: What I think Yes, but a browser works with that. So I still think they should know at least the basics.
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