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Proposal for free service across the entire city
(old news - 12:15PM Saturday Oct 01 2005)
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Google announced on Friday that it has submitted a proposal (Reuters) to provide free wireless Internet services across the entire city of San Francisco. The proposed free Wi-Fi, which would likely be funded through online advertising, will test a range of new services and applications. Google also pointed out in a statement that "This proposal is limited to San Francisco and we don't have any plans to expand this community service beyond the Bay Area."

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Transmaster
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October 1st, @12:24PM

another Nail

here is yet another nail in the BPL Coffin. Hear that.....there is more screaming from Microsoft:D

John Galt
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Already Available In SF

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johnbor

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October 1st, @03:21PM

Re: Already Available In SF

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Gogo1

join:2004-05-27
Brooklyn, NY

Re: another Nail

> Hear that.....there is more screaming from Microsoft

Ever considered that they might *become* the next Microsoft or worse?

Transmaster
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Re: another Nail

said by Gogo1 See Profile :

> Hear that.....there is more screaming from Microsoft

Ever considered that they might *become* the next Microsoft or worse?
Of course and then we will see who makes Google scream:)
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samrocks
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I wonder how cable and dsl are going to react?

I just know this won't go down without a fight from the cable and dsl companies because they will lose business to google.

HotRodFoto
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Re: I wonder how cable and dsl are going to react?

they can fight all they wanna, but in the end Google will win. It's a given.
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brooklynman4

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Re: I wonder how cable and dsl are going to react?

You pay for what u get.

HotRodFoto
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Re: I wonder how cable and dsl are going to react?

said by brooklynman4 See Profile :

You pay for what u get.
ya kinda like instant messenger clients lol
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LaZ3R
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Agreed. Fighting will do crap because Google is offering something free and if ISP's in the area have a problem with that, Tuff luck I guess because it's Google's choice as to how they want to price it.

Google is awesome!

Wish I lived in SF
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gpancner

join:2001-09-27
Nine Mile Falls, WA

Re: I wonder how cable and dsl are going to react?

Stay up north with the free healthcare. Because nothing is free and we taxpayers don't need anymore free-riders.

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Re: I wonder how cable and dsl are going to react?

said by gpancner See Profile :

Stay up north with the free healthcare. Because nothing is free and we taxpayers don't need anymore free-riders.
You got that damn straight!

We (down here w/no healthcare) prefer electing governments that put us deeper in debt year after year


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dvd536
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said by HotRodFoto See Profile :

they can fight all they wanna, but in the end Google will win. It's a given.
Nothings cheaper than FREE. unless theres a high price to pay like proprietary software riddled with spyware like most isps used to have. how are they going to deliver these ads????????
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Industry_Pro

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You don't have to wonder - here is a quote from MaBell's spokesbot: (this oughta crack you guys up - it did me!)
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SBC spokesman John Britton said his company encourages competition but believes that governments should seek greater investment from private companies to increase broadband service. He said San Francisco already was served by SBC and enjoyed more than 400 free Wi-Fi hotspots, more than any other city in the country.

"We feel there is already widespread broadband available today," Britton said.
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that's in this article on sfgate:

»www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c···6KG1.DTL

By "greater investment from private companies" of course, he means more goverment handouts and subsidies to Bell. 100+ years later, they're singing the *same* tune they always have, and it's mostly worked for them so far !

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said by samrocks See Profile :

I just know this won't go down without a fight from the cable and dsl companies because they will lose business to google.
Until google offers television services, the cable companies won't care. Cable internet is not much of a money maker by itself.
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Safemaster
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Expand

quote:
we don't have any plans to expand this community service beyond the Bay Area
Yea right!

calvoiper

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Re: Expand

They probably don't yet have "plans", but that sure doesn't mean that they haven't analyzed, thought about and drooled over the possibilities.

Their current "planning" probably involves scaling the San Francisco (population about 750,000) operation to the "Bay Area" which has about 9 times that many people.

calvoiper
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Re: Expand

said by calvoiper See Profile :

They probably don't yet have "plans", but that sure doesn't mean that they haven't analyzed, thought about and drooled over the possibilities.

Their current "planning" probably involves scaling the San Francisco (population about 750,000) operation to the "Bay Area" which has about 9 times that many people.

calvoiper
Works for me!
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gpancner

join:2001-09-27
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More Free Stuff = Npthing is Free.

Broadcast tv is considered "free". Yet because of the hidden cost of advertising the average person spends over $600 in extra cost per year for products.

Wonderssss

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Speed?

What about the speed???

Folic

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Re: Speed?

Thanks what i am wondering too, if it's less then 2MBps it's not even really worth it.
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Uhm, Google, a little bit late there...

The guys over at the Internet Archive have been doing what you guys are talking about for a while now...

»www.archive.org/web/sflan.php

A better idea, instead of laying down the capital to build ANOTHER network, would be to work with the guys over at IA and expand/improve the existing network. It'll cost you less money and make that project better.
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johnbor

join:2004-03-30
Newton Falls, OH

Distance ?

My neigbor lives done te street but cant get it yet I can. hes about 1500 ft away

Curious how far can one push there signal with a antenna?
jdir

join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA

Coolllllllll

Look like P2P is going to be REALLY popular in SF.

Let use WIFI for P2P applications.

The Beer
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Dark Fiber Debate...

Makes total sense now, not like ANYONE will want to help them in this endeavor, the only way to get a backbone would be to do it yourself. SBC, I need to buy a internet connection at wholesale so I can give away the retail product you sell!
aurora00

join:2005-01-27
San Francisco, CA

Choice is good!

When the idea to blanket San Francisco with wifi first came out there are plenty of distractors. Some call the city commie. Others usual suspects like SBC say this cannot and should not be done because the city already has good internet connection and so... Now Google submit a proposal and everyone reports like they will make it happen.

Well, choice is good !

And then who are the other submitters? Heard that sflan has been working on it. Nowadays everything Google has in mind automatically generate a huge buzz that eclipses everything else.
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