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story category Music Exec Responds to Steve Jobs
We're not greedy, we just want more money...
(old news - 12:36PM Monday Sep 26 2005)
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Steve Jobs recently opined that the music industry was "getting greedy" with their desire to change the iTunes pricing model from 99cents for most songs, to a system where more popular songs cost more ($1.50+). It's estimated the industry already enjoys a vast majority of every iTunes dollar spent. Warner Music Group CEO Edgar Bronfman Jr. has shot back, defusing the claims of greed - by of all things - insisting that they want some of the revenue generated by iPods. "We are selling our songs through iPod, but we don’t have a share of iPod’s revenue, we want to share in those revenue streams," complains Bronfman.

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Julio
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wtf?

why the hell should they get revenue from iPod sales? just goes to show u how greedy the RIAA is.
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permalink · 2005-09-26 12:40:01 · Reply to this

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Re: wtf?

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
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permalink · 2005-09-26 12:56:11 · Reply to this

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Re: wtf?

said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
if they didn't put any money into researching and developing the iPod, why should they get a share of revenue?
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permalink · 2005-09-26 13:00:04 · Reply to this

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Re: wtf?

said by Julio See Profile :

said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
if they didn't put any money into researching and developing the iPod, why should they get a share of revenue?
Hey, I didn't say I agree with it... That's just the logic they are using.
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permalink · 2005-09-26 13:01:08 · Print · Reply to this

stickfigure

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Re: wtf?

yea but it's the same as saying the music industry get profits from every CD player sale or the movie industry getting profits off every DVD player sale or even Microsoft should profit from Every computer sale. It just doesn't make sense.

I see it as both parties benefitting mutually. Apple is helping promote all the artists on the Itunes site and the popular music is promoting sales of the Ipod. Frickin greedy RIAA ba$tard$ need to quit complaining.
permalink · 2005-09-26 16:50:52 · Reply to this

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Re: wtf?

said by stickfigure See Profile :

or even Microsoft should profit from Every computer sale.
...which in fact is pretty much Microsoft's position.
permalink · 2005-09-29 12:02:20 · Reply to this

lkviewguy

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Chicago, IL		 to me that is like the food distributors wanting a cut of the profits of refridgerator sales, there products go into it right? Sounds dumb to me.
permalink · 2005-09-27 01:16:12 · Reply to this

elpikachupacabra

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Well excu-uuuse me!

permalink · 2005-09-26 21:20:37 · Reply to this
john262

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permalink · 2005-09-26 13:03:17 · Reply to this

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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
The same can be said about CD players, tape decks, albums, and every other form of media digital or analog that can be used to store and distribute music.

I have never heard such an absurd argument, but then again it is the RIAA and it would not surprise me to learn that is exactly what they are thinking.
permalink · 2005-09-26 13:22:11 · Print · Reply to this

rkrocha

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Re: wtf?

right on Zaber...Were was mister Music CEO when the Walkman,Discman and such were out there? The fughkr should be grateful the iPod et al are creating such a demand for his crap!
The guy sells the cherries that go in the pie and already got paid for it, now he wants a piece of the finished pie sales too? f'him!!!
permalink · 2005-09-26 14:51:42 · Reply to this

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Re: wtf?

We already do pay a tribute to the RIAA for CD-ROMs and DVD-ROMs as well as recordable media. It's called the Audio Home Recording Act of 1992. For 13 years the Gov't has forced us to give money to the RIAA for these things...because they complained enough about losing money on them.
permalink · 2005-09-26 15:35:41 · Reply to this

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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
And if there wasn't an internet, there wouldn't be an iTunes Store, so let's up the price another quarter since the RIAA missed that boat.
permalink · 2005-09-26 13:35:15 · Reply to this

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Re: wtf?

said by sporkme See Profile :

said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
And if there wasn't an internet, there wouldn't be an iTunes Store, so let's up the price another quarter since the RIAA missed that boat.
Come on, we all know that porn made the internet popular... not music!
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permalink · 2005-09-26 13:38:28 · Print · Reply to this

Anon909

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permalink · 2005-09-26 15:11:01 · Reply to this

elpikachupacabra

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Re: wtf?

LMFAO!

On the other hand, Gore could counter-sue and claim losses of revenue as well. "IT WERE MINE!"
permalink · 2005-09-26 21:22:06 · Reply to this

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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
Wrong. What makes the iPod popular is the design. Online, legal music distrbution would not be nearly as popular without the iPod/iTunes providing a comfortable and easy to use interface.

If people just wanted songs cheap, they could go anywhere to get them and use any mp3 player to hear them. They use Apple's products and portal for the "user experience."

The RIAA is sorely misunderstanding their role in this whole deal. They wouldn't have any (appreciatable) online market income if it wasn't for Apple.
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permalink · 2005-09-26 13:49:04 · Print · Reply to this

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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
By that matter the government should get profit sharing from all car manufacturers, because without the roads the government sets up, cars wouldn't sell. And ISPs should get money from ebay/amazon/newegg/etc because if it wasn't for them providing internet access, none of those sites could make money. Also ups/fedex/usps should also get kickbacks from any business that relys on them for shipping. The list goes on forever. The same logic will also always apply in reverse. So Apple should see more profit from the music sales because the RIAA wouldn't sell as much music if it wasn't for itunes and the ipod. This type of justification is pointless because in the end we would have to build a complex system to attempt to figure out how much money each business ends up earning because of a related business and all the money will probably just end up with the government, because the government is what allows our ways of free commerce to exist.
permalink · 2005-09-26 13:55:29 · Print · Reply to this

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said by insomniac84 :

By that matter the government should get profit sharing from all car manufacturers, because without the roads the government sets up, cars wouldn't sell.
They do, it's called sales taxes, excise taxes, auto registration, gasoline tax...
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permalink · 2005-09-26 14:27:26 · Reply to this

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Re: wtf?

said by Xaak See Profile :

said by insomniac84 :

By that matter the government should get profit sharing from all car manufacturers, because without the roads the government sets up, cars wouldn't sell.
They do, it's called sales taxes, excise taxes, auto registration, gasoline tax...
..and wheel tax where I live. ugh.. anywho, back on topic
permalink · 2005-09-26 18:31:27 · Print · Reply to this

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Re: wtf?

As long as they don't start a "Scroll Wheel" tax
permalink · 2005-09-26 18:36:53 · Reply to this

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 The payback and share they get via iPods is that they get to sell more of their product. They are owed nothing more.

This is like saying Ron Popeil should get a share of each TV sold because he has his commercials on TV. No, duh, the medium is the reason YOU exist.

Music has existed without the RIAA. The RIAA would not exist without consumer music devices.

Hubris, folks.
permalink · 2005-09-26 14:09:51 · Reply to this

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The payback and share they get via iPods is that they get to sell more of their product. They are owed nothing more.

This is like saying Ron Popeil should get a share of each TV sold because he has his commercials on TV. No, duh, the medium is the reason YOU exist.

Music has existed without the RIAA. The RIAA would not exist without consumer music devices.

Hubris, folks.
In the RIAA's narrow view, they do believe that they are owed more because they used to control the medium and distribution. They allowed iTunes to distribute music to iPods, and lost control of both distribution and medium.

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permalink · 2005-09-26 14:53:05 · Print · Reply to this
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permalink · 2005-09-26 14:35:01 · Reply to this

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said by Lepriapus See Profile :

Based on this logic, they will also want a cut of Windows, Mac, Linux, and any other OS revenue, because without these OS, the music would not be downloadable.
Again, I don't agree with the logic, but...

Your argument does not apply because the operating systems are not popular because of music. iPods (and iTunes), on the other hand, would not exist without the RIAA products.
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said by Seandhi See Profile :

iPods (and iTunes), on the other hand, would not exist without the RIAA products.
Not sure about iTunes, but iPod would do just fine without RIAA products. IMHO, if it did not support the good old unprotected MP3 format, iPod wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is today. And by the way, ever heard of independent music? It's compatible with iPod too, not just RIAA products.
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said by Pirate515 See Profile :

said by Seandhi See Profile :

iPods (and iTunes), on the other hand, would not exist without the RIAA products.
Not sure about iTunes, but iPod would do just fine without RIAA products. IMHO, if it did not support the good old unprotected MP3 format, iPod wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is today. And by the way, ever heard of independent music? It's compatible with iPod too, not just RIAA products.
Uhh, what kind of unencrypted content are those people putting on their iPods? Most likely, pirated music. And yes, I have heard of Indy music... That's not making the iPod popular.
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permalink · 2005-09-26 15:28:17 · Print · Reply to this

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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Uhh, what kind of unencrypted content are those people putting on their iPods? Most likely, pirated music. And yes, I have heard of Indy music... That's not making the iPod popular.
High quality, digital handcuff free music from ones own old or current cd libriary.It does not mean copyright infringed music.It appears you work for the RIAA to make that kind of statement.
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Most likely, pirated music.
Long before the iPod became popular.This I believe was among the first if not the first mp3 player »www.nomadworld.com/compare/idm/#

I still have my homemade portable mp3 player for my car.All it is, is a old computer Pentium 166mhz,10 gig hard drive with DOS 6.22, a keyboard,converter for my car's electrical system and easy to connect/disconnect plugs that goes with me ,to and from work.

With the price of hard drives today it's cheaper to make a cd player for road warriors than buy one.The directions on how to make one is easily found on the web
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I still have my homemade portable mp3 player for my car.All it is, is a old computer Pentium 166mhz,10 gig hard drive with DOS 6.22, a keyboard,converter for my car's electrical system and easy to connect/disconnect plugs that goes with me ,to and from work.

With the price of hard drives today it's cheaper to make a cd player for road warriors than buy one.The directions on how to make one is easily found on the web
You can also do what I did: grab a cheap (older) PDA and a few CF/SD cards. That way you can have "albums" the size of a potato chip. Or grab a 2GB+ microdrive and go even further. The upside of this is that you can watch ripped videos too using PocketDivx or PictPocket. It's a good deal.
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Thanks Tapeloop
I'll have to look into that what you mention.Sounds as if it's a great idea. Does this require solely the divx format ? or can different formats or codecs be used?
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PDAs and MP*s

I've only played WMA, WMV, MPG and AVI encoded in DivX on my PocketPC, so I'm not exactly sure what other codecs/formats can be used. A good resource for conversion can be found here: »www.jens-seiler.de/pocketpc/pock···-en.html. It explains all the software you need in a step-by-step process for converting.

PictPocket Cinema and PocketTV are also good players for PDAs, but they charge for the software.

I do know Quicktime and Realplayer also have players for PPC2002 and up if you want to encode your vids that way.

As for PDAs, if you don't have one already, you can get an iPAQ for as low as $50 on eBay.

It's been a while since I've ripped to PDA since I no longer have that 30-min. bus commute to watch Simpson's episodes.
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permalink · 2005-09-28 12:59:46 · Print · Reply to this
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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
Then they would want a cut of every single receiver, tape player, CD player, speaker, speaker wire, speaker stands, entertainment center, etc.

More stupid rantings from the record execs.
permalink · 2005-09-26 16:07:39 · Print · Reply to this

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said by moonpuppy See Profile :

said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
Then they would want a cut of every single receiver, tape player, CD player, speaker, speaker wire, speaker stands, entertainment center, etc.

More stupid rantings from the record execs.
Not necessarily speakers, receivers, and the likes. They have other uses, such as: TV, movies, etc.
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permalink · 2005-09-26 16:20:20 · Print · Reply to this
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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not necessarily speakers, receivers, and the likes. They have other uses, such as: TV, movies, etc.
Obviously, you aren't thinking like the RIAA. They would argue that speakers are a medium to transport music and therefore subject to their control. Whether it has other uses is irrelevant. The RIAA is only concerned with uses that affect them in any way, shape or form.
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said by moonpuppy See Profile :

said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not necessarily speakers, receivers, and the likes. They have other uses, such as: TV, movies, etc.
Obviously, you aren't thinking like the RIAA. They would argue that speakers are a medium to transport music and therefore subject to their control. Whether it has other uses is irrelevant. The RIAA is only concerned with uses that affect them in any way, shape or form.
I've been doing my best to think like the RIAA for this entire thread while trying to keep some form of fairness.
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said by Seandhi See Profile :

I've been doing my best to think like the RIAA for this entire thread while trying to keep some form of fairness.
And there is your problem. The RIAA doesn't think anything is fair unless it benefits them.
permalink · 2005-09-26 20:35:26 · Reply to this
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said by Seandhi See Profile :

Not that I agree with the RIAA, but the logic is that iPods would not be nearly as popular without the products put out by the RIAA.
And neither would 78 RPM records, 8-track tapes, cassettes, LP Vynil records, and reel-to-reel tape players. The iPod is a medium to play music which the RIAA provides. Should the RIAA also get royalties from Gibson, Fender, Tama, Yamaha, Korg, Shure, and Peavy? I mean, c'mon, the music that's recorded and sold via the RIAA is made with those instruments.
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said by MGD King See Profile :

And neither would 78 RPM records, 8-track tapes, cassettes, LP Vynil records, and reel-to-reel tape players. The iPod is a medium to play music which the RIAA provides.
Like I said before, the RIAA used to have control of distribution and medium. They gave that control to Apple in iTunes and the iPod, respectively. They want a larger share for giving up that control.

Should the RIAA also get royalties from Gibson, Fender, Tama, Yamaha, Korg, Shure, and Peavy? I mean, c'mon, the music that's recorded and sold via the RIAA is made with those instruments.
No, because those companies get a much greater share from non-RIAA related proceeds.
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The RIAA no longer controls distribution and content.? You got to be kidding.

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Like I said before, the RIAA used to have control of distribution and medium. They gave that control to Apple in iTunes and the iPod, respectively. They want a larger share for giving up that control.
Had the control of what you mention actually occured.Then where do these clusterf*cks get off asking for the price of songs be raised to $1.50 and a cut of iPod sales? The RIAA should, if anything pay the music buying public a 25 % of profit just for allowing that garbage to reach our eardrums.
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 Ipod is replacing the walkman. The tape walkman was replace by the cd walkman, then came mp3 cd's. Now we have Ipod, replaces all the old media. The ipod is nothing more than a digital walkman. Old concept, new technology.
permalink · 2005-09-26 18:25:34 · Reply to this

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Either way greedy bastards.
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said by Julio See Profile :

why the hell should they get revenue from iPod sales? just goes to show u how greedy the RIAA is.
Exactly!!!
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 This is amusing to me,I hope they(RIAA-MPAA) keep on shooting themselves in the foot,instead of developing a business model that promotes their product they further alienate and bite the hand that feeds them.

I look forward to the day that the whole industry collapses and artists and Indie labels reap the profits that are due to them with their own distribution system
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Re: wtf?

It's not cloudy, it's just overcast.

It's not hot, it's just not cold.

pLEASE SIR I WANT SUM MORE.

omfg sumbody shoot teh bastereds.
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They say "we are not greedy" then in the next sentence demand your first born.. Complete bullshit
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permalink · 2005-09-26 14:27:30 · Reply to this

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said by Julio See Profile :

why the hell should they get revenue from iPod sales? just goes to show u how greedy the RIAA is.
Ya' know, if they raise the price over a buck, I've heard 1.49, folks will be more apt to pirate the music.

Serve 'em right....
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Re: wtf?

That's what reined me in,when I was able to buy just the one song on a CD that I liked instead of $17.95 for the "filler" I stopped using p2p all together.

These contracts call for the artist to produce so many albums in a period,some bands are not able to do so, what does the consumer get ?...songs that normally wouldn't be published to make the Record companies a lot more richer
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permalink · 2005-09-26 17:58:43 · Print · Reply to this
Necronomikro

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 They also seem to think that it's NOT APPROPRIATE to customers if there's just one price, that it's more fair to the consumers if they charge more for some songs. WHAT THE HELL?
They also seem to think that more popular artists deserve more money for their songs... what? WHAT?! the consumer will either buy the song or not, and the more popular songs will be bought more often. This guy is a retard.

"To have only one price point is not fair to our artists, and I dare say not appropriate to consumers. The market should decide, not a single retailer," he said. "Some songs should be $0.99 and some songs should be more. I don't want to give anyone the impression that $0.99 is a thing of the past." One thing the music industry needs to adjust to is the difference in selling music on CDs as full albums and selling music as Internet downloads; most consumers are only interested in a few tracks.
permalink · 2005-09-26 22:10:14 · Print · Reply to this

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 That's also like saying that I make the bullets that people shoot in their guns. I want a cut on the Guns that are sold. Or even better----I make the Gasoline that GM, Ford, Dodge drivers use and I want a cut on every Vehicle sold. RLMAO!! Pure unadulterated Greed!
permalink · 2005-09-26 23:42:46 · Reply to this

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 Exxon/Mobil Just Announced they are going after all the Auto manufacturers for a cut of their revenue stream. Seems that Exxon Mobil is tired of these companies making money on there sweat and tears.

Anyone else see to common theme>?
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permalink · 2005-09-29 09:51:17 · Reply to this

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permalink · 2005-09-29 12:02:00 ·