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EDGE Vs. EVDO?
(old news - 05:38PM Wednesday Aug 31 2005)
tags: wireless · bandwidth
While Sprint and Verizon deploy EVDO wireless broadband (500kbps) and work on testing EVDO Revision A (1.5Mbps), TMobile is readying their own broadband launch here in the states sometime this month. While they're offering HSDPA wireless broadband in 2006 overseas (1.8Mbps), their thrifty solution for the States will be the notoriously unsexy EDGE technology (usually just scrapes 100 kbps). Of course if the price reflects the speed, it may sell; but if they're hoping to go head to head with EVDO at a high-price point, it could be a long winter.

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FLECOM
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join:2003-03-03
Miami, FL

hopefully...

T-mobile will continue to offer an affordable cellular internet solution... i really love paying only $20/month for unlimited internet, its slow, but for email and other stuff its just fine... 100kbps would be about twice as fast as their current offering which is usually between 40kb~60kbps
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ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

Re: hopefully...

Some citys are already edge compatable with T-mobile.

I'm planing on using EDGE service with T-mobile for $6 with a proxy.
SD6

join:2005-03-26

Re: hopefully...

what do you mean "with a proxy"? I know what a proxy is in TCP/IP networks but never seen the term used for EDGE

ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

Re: hopefully...

I would use A proxy with the cheaper $6 T-mobile Internet plan because they don't let u download HTML files with it, only WAP files. A proxy gets around that.

BlitzenZeus
Burnt Out Cynic
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join:2000-01-13
Oregon, USA
·Verizon Online DSL

Re: hopefully...

You are wrong, I am able to visit .html pages with my phone, the only problem is the phone usually cannot support normal html pages due to their size, but I had written a few in the past so I could download some files to my previous phone, before I got my bluetooth phone. If you try using the mobileweb/t-zones for internet don't be surprised if you get some extra charges on your bill.
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ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

Re: hopefully...

said by BlitzenZeus See Profile :

You are wrong, I am able to visit .html pages with my phone, the only problem is the phone usually cannot support normal html pages due to their size, but I had written a few in the past so I could download some files to my previous phone, before I got my bluetooth phone. If you try using the mobileweb/t-zones for internet don't be surprised if you get some extra charges on your bill.
I know exactly what i'm talking about.

You can download html pages on ur phone because ur using the v330's WAP browser witch will go through a proxy for HTML pages. If you try using a 3rd party program or your computer through your phone without a proxy you will get nothing. This is because T-mobile has blocked port 80 on the $6 T-zones.

Also, I've been using the $6 t-zones for tethering for 6 months not and have not gotten any extra charges. Its called unlimted for a reason!

BlitzenZeus, I suggest you go to »howardforums.com/forumdisplay.ph···rumid=52 before you tell anyone else that you will be charged for somehting they won't because I will bet you that at least 10 people on that forum will back up my claims.

BlitzenZeus
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Re: hopefully...

See your IM

BlitzenZeus
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I actually get 80-100kbps with T-Mobile using it as a grps modem,

ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

Re: hopefully...

what phone do u have?

BlitzenZeus
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Oregon, USA

Re: hopefully...

Moto v330 which does support edge, aka egprs.

eddie1234

@mindspring.com

Re: hopefully...

Can you connect the USB cable to your PC so that you can use the internet on your PC?

ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

edit:
August 31st, @07:43PM

u might be using edge because I heard the v330 doesn't show the E

You can use A bluetooth dongle to use internet through phone on ur pc

BlitzenZeus
Burnt Out Cynic
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Oregon, USA

Re: hopefully...

I talked more about my connection in this previous thread
»T-Mobile Internet - I'm lovin' it

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
I'm too thinking mine is faster than 40kbps. Nokia 6620 and Netfront browser.

ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

Re: hopefully...

said by kamm See Profile :

I'm too thinking mine is faster than 40kbps. Nokia 6620 and Netfront browser.
Your using EDGE, Nokia 6620 as it and T-mobiles EDGE is open but not advertised yet.

BlitzenZeus
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Re: hopefully...

Only a few of the current phones actually support egrps, I can look into it further, but I would assume most, if not all of the brand new phones they are selling would be edge compatable. For example most of the major phones have been updated, or replaced with newer models lately. However my own question is the aircard they offer still only gprs, or epgrs as it is older..... Something to look into.
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ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

Re: hopefully...

They will offer the sony ericsson GC89 once they official announce EDGE.

Eddie1234

@mindspring.com

Why so hard to find phones?

Why is it so difficult to find EDGE compatible phones with T-Mobile? I would think they would want MORE paying subscribers afer spending all the money to install EDGE, but a novice can look high and low and not figure it out on their site. Call their employees and they ask was EDGE means...

Good voice coverage in my area and I would like to add EDGE, but I cannot find out how. Of course, I am not sure I would actually buy any of the phones that TMobile sells since you can find a lot of people bitching about the lack of quality.
BosstonesOwn

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Everett, MA
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Re: Why so hard to find phones?

said by Eddie1234 :

Why is it so difficult to find EDGE compatible phones with T-Mobile? I would think they would want MORE paying subscribers afer spending all the money to install EDGE, but a novice can look high and low and not figure it out on their site. Call their employees and they ask was EDGE means...

Good voice coverage in my area and I would like to add EDGE, but I cannot find out how. Of course, I am not sure I would actually buy any of the phones that TMobile sells since you can find a lot of people bitching about the lack of quality.
In reality they can not even produce the phones fast enough.

You must remember your not the only one looking for these phones. Kids growing out of their old phones are buying what ever looks good to them and most of the edge compatible phones are moto 330's which seem to be all the rage with the younger crowd.

Not to mention most of the prepaid phones have edge... which i just don't understand , but eh to each is own.
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JoeOnSunset
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join:2002-11-25
Ormond Beach, FL

Re: Why so hard to find phones?

I've seen lots of articles about Verizon's hi-speed wireless plans, and now here's a little about T-mo. Does anyone know about Cingular's 3g plans?
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Re: Why so hard to find phones?

said by JoeOnSunset See Profile :

I've seen lots of articles about Verizon's hi-speed wireless plans, and now here's a little about T-mo. Does anyone know about Cingular's 3g plans?
Yes but the people working on it are held to NDA's it won't be as fast as the evdo solution that verizon is using. Testing is showing broadband like speeds. I wouldn't plan on them competing the first time around. Maybe after the first round of upgrades they may be competing for that business dollar.
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ss4vegito7

join:2004-07-24
Cranbury, NJ

said by JoeOnSunset See Profile :

I've seen lots of articles about Verizon's hi-speed wireless plans, and now here's a little about T-mo. Does anyone know about Cingular's 3g plans?
Cingular already has had edge out for almost a year now.

HSPA will be out soon wich is going to be much faster.

schmol

join:2001-12-26
Windsor, PA

Probably the main reason you can't find phones yet is because they haven't officially offered it to the public. I think that's coming sometime in the next few months. They are still in the testing stage and some markets are still installing the necessary equipment for the edge system.

DudeInCMH

@mindspring.com

Re: Why so hard to find phones?

Where are the marketing weenies???

Seems to be a missed marketing opportunity...why wouldn't you sell phones in advance of EDGE rollout where you can say "Hey, if you need data in a phone, we'll have it in xx weeks/months" so buy this phone and you'll be set..." or "If you ever need data, these phones will handle it once we finish installing it..."

Considering how carefully scripted most carriers are about this, one would think they knew a LONG time ago that EDGE was coming...in fact, if I am not mistaken they promised it a LONG time ago...I thought it was like 2003-2004 on their web site.

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
Why would you go to T-Mobile? Any unlocked phone can work. I haven't bought *ANY* phone from them and I was a originally Voicestream subscriber for about a year...
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