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| That's rather blunt, however, I do have to concur on a wider scope that the area was not meant for human inhabitance. If the nation were intelligent, they would not allow these areas to be rebuilt (only to be blown apart/flooded again with the next hurricane). Living below sea level is just plain suicidal. There is almost no amount of government planning that can avert a Cat 5 hurricane with up to 200 mph wind gusts. And when these regions get into trouble, it costs the whole nation money, both in recovery efforts and also in terms of supply shortages for the vital resources routed through those ports. The states of LA and AL need to do some serious thinking about reallocating the land area for habitation. There are going to be far more hurricanes, some even worse than Katrina, in the coming years, and maybe even in the coming months. That said, it's very sad that individual families are suffering, as many of them were born there and don't have much opportunity to get out of the bowl. -- Take care,
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 |   Doctor Four My other vehicle is a TARDIS Premium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX | Re: Please give what you can! I did so last night, giving $100 to the American Red Cross 2005 Hurricane Relief Fund.
I also asked my HR representative here at work whether my employer will match that contribution. | |
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| said by digital k :call the American Red Cross at 1-800-HELP-NOW. You don't have to give an extraordinary amount, just give what you are able too. I encourage everyone of you decent people here to donate, people are in need and its getting worse. Please call now. Um, so you have to be a decent person to donate to the Red Cross according to your post? -- My hourly rates:$25 per hour.$35 per hour if you want to watch.$45 per hour if you want to help.$75 per hour if you tried to fix it, and failed.The biggest error is sitting in front of your keyboard. | |
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| Re: Please give what you can! said by 99664227 :Um, so you have to be a decent person to donate to the Red Cross according to your post? I'm sure that the Red Cross would accept donations if you're nekkid too.  -- Copyright infringement is illegal. Murder is illegal. Therefore, file sharing is murder. | |
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  Iceblink8 By your command Premium join:2002-03-21 San Diego, CA
| Where is the National responce. This should have been posted first thing monday morning, but like everything else too little is being done too late.Where the hell is the National Gaurd and the Military and why hasn't the President done a REAL flyover.Maybe Mr.Bush should spend a night out on a roof with water rising all around him.Before you guys jump all over me I have family down there some made it out some didn't. | |
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| Re: Where is the National responce. The Nat'l Response was there before the hurricane hit. Maybe you should drive to the area to see for yourself. Oh wait you can't - maybe the same logistical problem that the gov't is having.
Why does everything have to be political????
Bush flying over the area would only have a symbolic affect. Do you think he would do more than he is already doing now. He has authorized everything asked of him for this tragedy.
How can you sit in the comforts of your San Diego Home complaining about what the people on the ground are doing?
Why don't you yell at the UN for not convening and the liberals in western Europe for not sending any aid over? Where are they when natural disasters hit us?
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| Re: Where is the National responce. hrm...
I don't know about the UN, but as a skilled Canadian in the trades I have been turned around at the border before, or not allowed to use my trade is said disaster zone.
Some of the reasons you may not get AID is simply because of government Local/State or federal restrictions from non US citizens.
As for sending money? Sure I'll send some cash...
"Where are they when natural disasters hit us"
You have seen some of hate posted here in regards to non USA citizens? Could be that the rest of the world knows how many in the USA view them? Who knows... | |
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| did you hear me critisciing the locals?NO you heard my frustration with the Nation.....I have family there that i have been in contact with via text message...the media is not reporting all that is happening and is reporting false information.They are just now trying to seal the levees today when it was reported they were working on it yesterday so says the Mayor of New Orleans.The cops that you see supposedly looting are actually takinf supplies for the people not for themselves as they have no communications and no supplies.The bottom line is FEMA and all the other federal agencies were slow to respond.PLain and simple.Do you have family in the South DSLTech?Yes?No?Didn't think so.A lot of poeple in New Orleans are wondering the same exact thing I was.Where is the help?Where's the Presidant.Where's the Gaurd.I wasn't tryingto make it political just spelling and telling it like it is.The bottom line is he is only doing what is asked of him when in this situation we need more than what is asked.I would LOVE for the oppurtunity to ask the rest of the world where the aid to the Gulf Coast is.One damm thing is for sure if Mr Bush would have just signed the wetlands bills maybe there might have been more money and more resources to deal with this calamity.You Mr.DslTech are an ass. | |
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| Re: Where is the National responce. I sympathize with your position, and I pray for your family.
In all reality, it is disingenuous to blame the government. I was watching the news today, and I saw a lot of government helicopters and supplies being unloaded at the superdome.
Truth is, things are so bad no one can get in via land. Most helicopters are being used to pull people off rooftops, and it looks like an entire US city has been wiped out.
Could anyone have prepared for this? Would anyone here honestly believe that an entire major US city could be wiped off the map? It's indeed a sad situation, but trying to pass blame off on anyone is probably an emotional reaction.
Everyone has to avoid playing this blame game crap and band together. The only people deserving of blame are people who relatively unaffected by this national tragedy, do nothing to help.
As others here have done, I urge everyone to donate what they can to the charity of their choice. I know several are listed at the link of FEMA's web site at
»www.fema.gov/press/2005/resource···m#donate
In closing, I strongly urge people to be leery of opportunists who pop up in such times of national emergency. Be careful who you give your money to in the name of hurricane relief. | |
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| Re: Where is the National responce. said by N3OGH :... As others here have done, I urge everyone to donate what they can to the charity of their choice. I know several are listed at the link of FEMA's web site at » www.fema.gov/press/2005/resource···m#donate... Thanks for the link. I just sent some $$ to America's Second Harvest. | |
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| Compassion from "liberal Western Europeans" as well as the willingness to help is there. Many over here follow closely and with compassion what's happening in the U.S. Believers are praying, atheists don't, but everybody wants this nightmare to end soon.
As for practical help: Germany has offered boats, blankets, electricity generators, ... but all of that was turned down. Likewise the German sections of the Red Cross were not contacted by the American Red Cross for help.
Why? I think (and hope) that it isn't because of a sick sense of pride, but because the people in charge realize that the U.S. is not a 3rd world country. So the need for help here in the U.S. is different from other situations when disasters strike in poorer countries.
For that same reason India turned down help after the Tsunami. Many mistook that as India trying to prove that they are better than the rest of the affected countries. But their prime minister just did his part to make sure that international efforts are distributed in the best manner. And compared to others India was strong enough to help itself. India would have been better off accepting international help. But they saw that others needed this help even more.
To put this into perspective: Thousands are near death today in Africa of hunger and thirst and malaria and AIDS and they need more but have less help, although a continuous effort of Europeans, North and South Americans, Asians, Australians and yes, Africans, too, is made, directed by the UN, the Red Cross and so many others.
Once more: The world isn't blind when people in the U.S. suffer. We see the pain and get angry in our helplessness when we hear that looters shoot at rescue personnel.
Unfortunately, however, the frequent blindness (as in this case) of the U.S. sometimes does make people abroad suffer, emotionally and physically. Trying to abuse this disaster to build an image of the good U.S. and the bad rest of the world doesn't help. | |
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 |   gheezer Compooters R Us Premium join:2002-12-20 Henrietta, NY | Please try not to politicize this, now is not the time. Let's band together and find solutions. -- Join the NAVY, see the world....It's mostly water! | |
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 |   FLECOM Bay Networks Freak Premium join:2003-03-03 Miami, FL
| man your bitching about a few days? the national guard didnt show up in miami after andrew until two weeks AFTER the emergency operations manager was crying and begging on TV for aid to help us down here... that of course was after all the politicans made their press-confrences to look good, they were all down here the next day and promptly left | |
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| Re: Where is the National responce. As I recall Miami was not as affected as New Orleans has been with Katrina.I don't recall hundreds of people stuck on thier roofs waiting and praying to be rescued.I also don't recall over 80 percent of Miami being underwater.You can say whatever you want the people of Louisiana know that help was not given as quickly as it should have been and I will say one thing they ain't blaming the local government.Also did you know the Presidant had the nerve to call the gov of MS and ask to do a visit but did not bother to ask the gov of LA the same thing?Oh wait I forgot the Mayor and Gov. in LA are democrats could that have something to do with it? | |
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| Re: Where is the National responce. like what you have to say. I am so frustrated with the nation thinking that Bush or the Government could have prevented this. Why is everything so political? Here is what one victim said. This victim lost everything in Katrina, job, house; their neighbors are dead.
"This Hurricane is a lot worse than anyone expected. Nothing could have prevented this. It is not the governments responsibility to have the National Guard waiting right outside New Orleans for a disaster to strike. This is a horrible disaster but I have my life and it will go on somewhere else in the US. | |
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| Housing is needed I called the local chapter of the red Cross and informed them that I have a 6 br house available for anyone displaced by this tragedy.
They said they're not aware of any efforts at this time to find long term shelter for those displaced, perhaps if more people call with this same type of donation, maybe they'll get off their asses and start making this available to those who desperately need this kind of help.
There is a web site that needs help too, sort of an offspring of »www.fark.com/ but they need Database admin help and php/web scripting assistance.
»www.katrinashelter.com/
They're going to be assembling a database of housing that is being made available by regular joes and janes like us, in order to bring some relief to thos who've been displaced.
If you can help Katrina's Shelter, please help. -- Join the NAVY, see the world....It's mostly water! | |
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| said by gheezer :They said they're not aware of any efforts at this time to find long term shelter for those displaced, perhaps if more people call with this same type of donation, maybe they'll get off their asses and start making this available to those who desperately need this kind of help. I heard just a few minutes ago on the radio that they've cleared the schedule for the Houston Astrodome through December and are going to house storm refugees there. | |
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2 edits | Re: Spirit Of Texas Hurricane Relief Walmart is also taking contributions, at all of their stores.
If any of you need to contact anyone in the area effected by Katrina you may be able to get a message through to some one using this organization. »www.satern.org/
It would seem the death toll is going to be in the thousands:( | |
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  scooby Premium join:2001-05-01 Chicago, IL | donate online redcross.org accepts donations via credit card. No excuse not to help. Skip lunch once a week and send the money to someone that needs it! | |
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I know UTC has a relief fund on their employee website. Time to donate!:) | |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs: | Please do help... I know all the aid organizations helped people here in Florida last year tremendously, and I went through two in 3 weeks last year. There are business/houses still damaged 1 year later...EVERYONE can use help... | |
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  vpoko Premium join:2003-07-03 Jamaica Plain, MA | Please give blood, too There are going to be folks needing transfusions from injuries sustained during this whole mess, and even if there aren't people will always need blood donations. It doesn't cost anything, it's safe, and it's so needed. | |
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 |   N3OGH Bear patrol must be working like a charm Premium join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs | Re: Please give blood, too Great idea for folks of limited financial resources!
Even if you give a few bucks, go give a pint.
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| On a different subject What bothers me is an utter lack of any kind of international sympathy and support. Yeah, we don't need it, we're rich and proud, blah-blah, but what kind of beast have we become when people at best are mum and at worst rejoice (in the militant circles the hurricane is now known as Private Katrina, if you didn't hear)? We're usually first to help, and despite all that all we get in return is token condolences from Britain and Germany (what a surprise) and cold criticism about the quality of Louisiana dams and global warming from the rest of the world. A surprise? Hardly. A wake-up call, perhaps? Just wanted to get this off my chest... | |
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| re:get a life I don't think some of you have a clue about what life is really like in the Big Easy or how hard it is to make a living there.The people that were stuck there had NO choice as to weather or not they stayed or went.Theire is no mass transit out of the city.A lot of the people who stayed behind were elderly and had no means of escape.A lot simply had no money to get out...not because they didn't want to leave.The New Orleans area is economically depressed and has been for years.You have a lot of people without jobs because there aren't any to be had.Also you can't choose where you are born and it takes money and education to get yourself out of poverty.Some people live where they live simply cause they have no choice.The people of New Orleans did not ask for this to happen to them by living there and shame on you for thinking so.I just think it's really sad the legnth of time it is taking to get things rolling.New Orleans is one of our most important cities and it's really sad the lack of concern and care they White House and everyone else in Washington is showing.Also the disinformation the media is sharing is not helping.They are just know working on the levees today when CNN and the media were reporting that they were fixing them YESTERDAY and so says the Mayor of New Orleans.The Dept of Homeland Security is suger coating what really is happening. | |
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| America's Celebrity Community.. Not a peep...this is amazing. Sean Penn was more than happy to travel to Iraq and sympathize with the supporters of a brutal dictatorship.
Mel Gibson, made hundreds of millions of dollars for HIS take on the life of someone who said "Love thy neighbor"....where's Mel now? (I know he's Australian, but he's made his Millions here...)
Athlete's, worth hundreds of millions of dollars...where are you.
Rock Stars, Hip Hoppers, don't you even give a damn?
Sometimes I wonder how far off track we've gotten as a nation. -- Join the NAVY, see the world....It's mostly water! | |
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said by gheezer :Not a peep...this is amazing. Sean Penn was more than happy to travel to Iraq and sympathize with the supporters of a brutal dictatorship. Mel Gibson, made hundreds of millions of dollars for HIS take on the life of someone who said "Love thy neighbor"....where's Mel now? (I know he's Australian, but he's made his Millions here...) Athlete's, worth hundreds of millions of dollars...where are you. Rock Stars, Hip Hoppers, don't you even give a damn? Sometimes I wonder how far off track we've gotten as a nation. Wheres P Diddy now, when you need his millions? That's right he's bling blingin it somewhere in the NY. -- My hourly rates:$25 per hour.$35 per hour if you want to watch.$45 per hour if you want to help.$75 per hour if you tried to fix it, and failed.The biggest error is sitting in front of your keyboard. | |
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| said by gheezer :Athlete's, worth hundreds of millions of dollars...where are you. Rock Stars, Hip Hoppers, don't you even give a damn? Sometimes I wonder how far off track we've gotten as a nation. You mean the same place that pays guys who play games millions of bucks yet teachers get pittance? Sad, yes. 
Celebs are starting to come around though--there's at least one benefit concert being held: »today.reuters.com/news/newsArtic···S-DC.XML -- Copyright infringement is illegal. Murder is illegal. Therefore, file sharing is murder. | |
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| the bottom line is.... poeple are dying, and enough is not being done plain and simple.if you disagree with that and I think I am politicing well that's your right.i speak as a new orleanian who is sitting here watching the horror unfold between my eyes and I don't see nearly enough help being given.say what you want but you can't refute that the governement is not doing enough or moving as quick as they should.50 percent of the Lousiana National Guard is in state but 100% of their equipment is in Iraq where is the logic in that?How hard is it to get helicopters from around the nation to help in search and rescue?How hard is it to air drop food and water?How hard is it for them to air drop a communications unit in?We can do these things in Iraq why not here?Bottom line the feds should have been getting ready this past weekend and not today.Why don't you explain it to the citizens of New Orleans the way you explained it to me.I am sure they would love to hear it. | |
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1 edit | It is not the time for finger pointing. Now is not the time to bicker over who helps or does not. The scope of the disaster transcends politics and borders. You either help out or not. There is no need for anyone to explain their actions. As for the political scope that will be left to the historians. I am sure volumes will be written on a lot of things for future generations to dwell on.
I imagine many want to go and help when donations will go further at this time. Well it is a good gesture for thousands of people to want to head down there to help rebuild, the infrastructure would not be able to support them along with the displaced at this time. Maybe one - two months from now when the water is drained and areas are cleared to support a large volume of workers then that will be a different story.
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Maybe as nice as this one! I mean, Bush thought it was important enough to play today, so... | |
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