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That VoIP Guy
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join:2004-09-04
East Lansing, MI
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| Oh, and... Oh, and don't forget, Google is running for president in 2012.
Come-on, kids... Rumor mills are just that, rumors. Did anybody just think that Google bought up dark fiber because it might either be a good investment, or that maybe they needed to connect some of their data-centers together? | |
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 | Primis1
join:2005-06-13
Coldwater, MI
| Re: Oh, and... quote:
Come-on, kids... Rumor mills are just that, rumors. Did anybody just think that Google bought up dark fiber because it might either be a good investment, or that maybe they needed to connect some of their data-centers together?
From what I hear Google mirrors their servers to and from the East and West Coast nightly, and when they do it generally totally saturates the pipes they're using in-between until the mirroring and backup is completed, which occasionally wreaks havoc. I have it on good word from an industry insider that their mirroring is by far the most-painful and bandwidth-hungry mirroring he'd ever seen even amongst the bigshot companies.
So I'm not the least bit surprised Google would therefore want more pipe to use, whatever they can get and wherever they can get it. | |
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Blasterbator
Sent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Jackson, MS | Please don't forget the "mill" part...
a machine that manufactures by the continuous repetition of some simple action
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grapkoski
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join:2004-05-28
Tampa, FL
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| Re: If true,puts Google in competition with major That could cause a major backlash from consumers, mostly because it is the first time that an ISP has blocked a major website that people use on a daily basis. So in reality that would be suicide on the ISPs part and the only way they could stay afloat is to compete like any other business. | |
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tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
| Re: If true,puts Google in competition with major ISPs I certainly see the value of Google being able to offer a directed search for the area directly around your current location for mobile customers, and reaping higher ad rates while cutting bandwidth charges.
But I don't see "free", at least not for more than a quick search, in the long run.
Even the mighty Google ad-borg, is needing to generate more revenue then ads provide, in the form of premium services. | |
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cfarm
join:2005-08-12
Byron, CA | $60/Meg of data transfer Did anyone else read that in the article? I'd immediately run up the BS flag for that one.
Who's gonna pay for those tens of thousands of antennas and jump through the permit process to get them installed?
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| Yukstah
Premium
join:2003-04-07
Boston, MA
| Re: $60/Meg of data transfer - nah! No one pays $60/mbit for bulk internet transit. Low cost carriers (the cogent and like) can be had at $10/mbit with decent commit rates, even less if they’re purchasing gigs/month.
If Google is leasing dark fiber, there are still monthly reoccurring fees. I wonder if Google could afford to buy out an ISP such as cogent….just food for thought (I have zero financial information to back any of this up) | |
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MxxC
@xtential.com | another piece of this puzzle don't forget that google recently bought out www.dodgeball.com
small newyork company that allowed you to locate your friends using cellphone positioning... | |
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tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
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August 15th, @02:09PM
| good idea so they get to install antennas at the local shops in the neighborhood in return for ad contracts for very localized ads ("Hungry? Joe's pizza is right across the street!") which show up with every search or map.
Google earth will show prefered providers first, and offer inducments for merchants slow time of day (Try Joe's early special, 10% off for lunch orders before picked up by 11:30)and so on.
unexpected local rain storm? suddenly umbrellas are advertized for a store on the next corner.
Google has lots of money and a reputation for inovation, they bought the fiber and the programs to make it work.
This is something cell providers already are working on, but Google might have the resources to be the third party that can make it universal. | |
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| jniamehr
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join:2003-10-09
Roslyn, NY | Re: good idea I hope its not wifi and something stronger and better... but yeah google doesnt waste money they bought that fiber to light it up... | |
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tshirt
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join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
| Re: good idea They'll likely go with the lowest common denominator, that has reasonable/low terminal cost, reasonable range, and wide public acceptance.
Wi-FI or small bluetooth nets seem the most likely now.
this may be essentially overlaying the existing celluar networks with a privite data network in order to get the localization data.
This could all be handle through current cel networks for those with Inet,email, or IM capable mobile phones/devices | |
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DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
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join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
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| said by tshirt  : so they get to install antennas at the local shops in the neighborhood in return for ad contracts for very localized ads ("Hungry? Joe's pizza is right across the street!") which show up with every search or map. Google earth will show prefered providers first, and offer inducments for merchants slow time of day (Try Joe's early special, 10% off for lunch orders before picked up by 11:30)and so on. unexpected local rain storm? suddenly umbrellas are advertized for a store on the next corner. Maybe Google actually == SkyNet??
-Dane | |
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punker
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join:2004-06-21
Palmdale, CA
clubs: | even if they could even if they could there would be way(s) to block the ads
like using a other computer as a bypass to block them they for the other computer that is not being used would get the ad's | |
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visio
join:2001-08-29
Clifton, NJ | Re: even if they could say what? | |
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Free Google Wi-Fi?
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If true,puts Google in competition with major ISPs