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NOCMan
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1 edit | Re: Netflix / Tivo And DirectTivo customers continue to get the shaft.
Owell FIOSTv is almost here (Been told September) and I'll dump DirectTV and their locked in DVR's in a heartbeat.
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| Re: Netflix / Tivo said by NOCMan  :And DirectTivo customers continue to get the shaft. Owell FIOSTv is almost here (Been told September) and I'll dump DirectTV and their locked in DVR's in a heartbeat. Do you have to get DirectTivo? Can't you just get a regular Tivo?
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2 edits | Re: Netflix / Tivo DirecTiVos have benefits that far outweigh using a standalone TiVo with a standard DirecTV receiever. Direct digital quality, dual tuners, and no IR blaster nonsense are worth more than any add-on services. It just sucks that DirecTV is chosing not to let the DirecTiVos realize their potential.
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morbo
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| Re: Netflix / Tivo said by djrobx :DirecTiVos have benefits that far outweigh using a standalone TiVo...dual tuners yes. a dream for all regular tivo owners.
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novaflare
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| said by djrobx : Direct digital quality, /me snickers
No such thing as a digital tv yet not even the mighty plasma is digital. Digital tv cable sat etc are a analog signal (braodcast tv signal (arial) or satalight signal also analog. This signal is then converted to digital and sent along the line or through the air as a digital signal to you. At this point the digital signal is reconverted to analog by your set then transmited to the tv it self. The digital quality catch phrase is a snake oil advertisement. The only benifit right now with dit tv is more chanels to the user. In another 2 or 3 years we might finaly see true digital tvs right now there all analog. Hell even out computer monitors are analog.
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| Re: Netflix / Tivo said by novaflare :said by djrobx : Direct digital quality, /me snickers No such thing as a digital tv yet not even the mighty plasma is digital. Digital tv cable sat etc are a analog signal (braodcast tv signal (arial) or satalight signal also analog. This signal is then converted to digital and sent along the line or through the air as a digital signal to you. At this point the digital signal is reconverted to analog by your set then transmited to the tv it self. The digital quality catch phrase is a snake oil advertisement. The only benifit right now with dit tv is more chanels to the user. In another 2 or 3 years we might finaly see true digital tvs right now there all analog. Hell even out computer monitors are analog. Your not understanding... A directivo records directly from the bitstream from DirecTV as opposed to a regular tivo which hooks up and comes through regular analog cables from the cable/ota box first. That can degrade quality as opposed to the Directivo which does everything internally & no analog conversion = bitstream directly to the internal harddrive of the satellite receiver. Of course from the directivo to the TV is still analog but that's what user djrobx meant when he said digital quality. | |
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1 edit | Re: Netflix / Tivo DirecTV signed a deal with NDS for a new DVR to replace the DirecTivo.
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| I have a Series 1 Tivo that works fine with my Directv receiver without the IR blaster. My series one will record off other sources besides Directv unlike your DirecTivo.
said by djrobx :DirecTiVos have benefits that far outweigh using a standalone TiVo with a standard DirecTV receiever. Direct digital quality, dual tuners, and no IR blaster nonsense are worth more than any add-on services. It just sucks that DirecTV is chosing not to let the DirecTiVos realize their potential. | |
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Andrew J
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inciter
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You should join the cable/sat forum. DTV and Tivo are going bye bye, well not DTV but DTivo is going. and the new setup is much better with more options.
Come join us! we would like to have you as a member.
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| directly downloading tv shows, another way to cut out the middleman  who needs to pay for cable. I think standard phone lines will also become obselete as the internet spreads and you just need some freeware software to dialup another ip and skip out on the VOIP all together. | |
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clubs: | distributed distribution TiVo + Bit Torrent = less load on whoever chooses to distribute this content to TiVo customers/owners? hmmmm... | |
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| Re: distributed distribution said by rchandra :TiVo + Bit Torrent = less load on whoever chooses to distribute this content to TiVo customers/owners? hmmmm... You know I missed a Survivor show once from my Tivo and my wife was going to kill me! But rather than BT that I think IMOP is lame, I used my newsgroup account from newshosting and found it before she got home from AKIDO Practice only one 1/2 hours later. yes I did! BT is fine but NG's are kick. Soz
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oliphant
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Corona, CA | I gave up... after the latest round of annoying banner ads. Too many competitors to bother entertaining the latest lame TiVo gimmick while they continue to fill their service with lame advertising. | |
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clubs: | Re: I gave up... what company did you go with instead?
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1 edit | Re: I gave up... E*. With so many people offering DVRs for cheaper and/or without the constant annoying banner ads it's no wonder that TiVo is losing market share. And they will continue so long as the other DVR providers continue improving their software which until recently sucked pretty badly. | |
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clubs: | Re: I gave up... I predict Comcast will use TiVo in their upcoming DVR switch.
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| Re: I gave up... said by morbo :I predict Comcast will use TiVo in their upcoming DVR switch. I hope not ... unless they add more time. I absolutely can't stand the damn tivo box my brother has. it is a hassle to just switch channels.
I however, after cutting my dish networks subscription am enjoying the dvr from comcast. I hated dish network, when they refused to let me upgrade to an hdtv dual tuner dvr.
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| said by morbo :I predict Comcast will use TiVo in their upcoming DVR switch. This is old news again... what you predict has happend a while ago. If your into TV I would suggest you vist the Cable/sat forum here and read up about the Tivo Comcast deal. This has been talked about quite a bit.
We would welcome your vist.
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oliphant
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Corona, CA | Re: I gave up... It was mentioned here too from the time it was just a rumor. It's sad news no matter what the source. | |
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clubs: | Does Tivo have banner ads? I've never had mine hooked up to the phone line, so I still have the non updated version. | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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| Re: I gave up... Yeah I recently saw them (before I cancelled anyway) start appearing while watching commercials. GMC seemed to be a big one along with the movie 'The Skeleton Key'. A large banner ad appears with a 'pulsating' thumbs up for more information and both the thumb and the text move like an animated gif. Completely absurd.
It was thoroughly annoying, especially considering I was already paying over a $150 a year to avoid such ads. And of course these are in addition to the annoying ads within the normal GUI itself. No point in staying with TiVo when there are competitors which at least currently don't subscribe so such whoring tactics to bombard their customers with advertising.
When I cancelled the retention person I was speaking with wasn't at all surprised I was cancelling. I guess they've been getting a lot lately as they get more and more aggressive with their advertising. | |
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BodyBumper
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Beverly Hills, CA | VOD How is this any different from Video on Demand? | |
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Rohnert Park, CA | Re: VOD Check out the the forum Cable /Sat here we look forward to answering your questions about these important choices.
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| Re: Who cares about DirecTivo's Verbatium, or as best as I can, from Directv's last conference call, available at: biz.yahoo.com/cc/0/57540.html
at exactly 01:20:36, a question from someone at prudential
Hi, thanks.
Ah, wanted to ask a question on your new dvr initiative. Could you give us a sense of what you expect the, the takeup to be, what the box is going to cost and what, um, and I assume that these are Tivo boxes or will customers be getting your new dvr box. Thanks.
ah, I'm sorry. (Were you thought) are you asking dvr or hd? Cause I was....
DVR..
ah, DVR
DVR
I don't know why I heard hd... Amm... The umm.. Your question, I'm sorry, 'cause I was thinking hdtv, could you ask it again, on the dvr box?
Sure. You just launched a new initiative where new or and or existing customers can get a free dvr. I guess I'm trying to get a sense of what my sac retention estimates might look like in the coming months. What do you expect the take up to be, what does the box cost, and is the box a Tivo box.
OK. On the Tivo part first, Mike (unintelligible) talk about things, to get all the pieces. Right now the box is a Tivo box ... ahmm... we are, we will be, beginning around the beginning of october transitioning to our Directv+ box, which is the box that will officially launch vod and some other new features with it, ahmm, that box will become the, at the, when they start up, the core dvr box for us, but we'll still have, we'll still have a Tivo, ahmm, box that's available for the customers, ah, who want Tivo.
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Straight from the mouth of Chase Carey, CEO of Directv!
"(The Directv+ dvr) will become the core dvr box for us, but we'll still have Tivo available for the customers who want Tivo."
They are not "killing their partnership with Tivo before the end of the year", they will offer a directv branded dvr AND a tivo dvr.
Don't take my word for it, check the link and listen to it yourself.
...and question EVERYTHING the media wants you to believe. Don't swallow anything they spew out without checking for yourself. Believe nothing, verify everything, don't let them lead you around by your wienie!
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Noobie
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| Re: Who cares about DirecTivo's Old news but thanks for the umm update,,, did you know the new setup mite kick butt on what we have now?
You mite want to join the cable/Sat forum here as we are getting ready to review these forth coming changes.
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| Re: Who cares about DirecTivo's Old news? It certainly is. But it's the umm truth,,,
Even though it's old (it was definitively stated at this years ces, as well as at every directv conference call since), there are quite a number of folks who will still post "DirecTV is killing their partnership with Tivo before the end of the year" or the like as if it was an unequivocal fact. It's been repeated in posts, blogs, even the mass media would have you believe it. It's as if they think if it's said enough times it will be true.
The worst part is that it seems to be believed by most. It's sad to think that such a number of people can be taken in by such downright misdirection and at times, outright lies. Especially when the truth is so easy to find.
This is not the only subject where this occurs, but it is one of the easiest to refute given the availability of the information on this subject.
And I'm well aware of directv's new, yet to be released R15 (otherwise known as the "Directv+ DVR"). It's about damn time the customers were treated to a little competition in the directv dvr marketplace! It "mite" kick butt, but it might blow chunks, too.;)
I would hope that it has more than caller id, "bookmarks" and interactive features. I'm even less excited by the vod offering of "pay everytime you watch" movies. I'm really not a big movie watcher. But to a movie fan it may be the holy grail!;)
If it kicks butt, Cool! At $100 a pop, I'd get one! But at least if it does blow, we'll still have an alternative.
To tell you the truth, though, I'm eagerly awaiting the "Ucentric Home Media Center" that was demo'd at this years ces. Now that baby looks like it's gonna kick some serious butt!!
Btw, thanks for the invite! I may take you up on that.
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| How does TVoIP technology .... Improve upon existing technology?
I mean, suppose I wanted to get a TV over IP system, what would it let me do that I can't do already?
Sincere question here, smart asses need not reply.
Thanks.
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| Re: How does TVoIP technology .... Now it really does not improve anything.
IPTV is just another one of those methods of getting what they would like to call the trifecta of communictation
Before Sprint decided to call there dsl service ION there was a sprint fiber project call ION.
Basicly the theory is that the teleco/cableco depending on who is doing it wants you to get your Telephone/Internet/Televsion all throughone piece of wire. In this case fiber. But the one provider to rule the all method has me worried.
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| said by DaDogs :Improve upon existing technology? I mean, suppose I wanted to get a TV over IP system, what would it let me do that I can't do already? Sincere question here, smart asses need not reply. Thanks. -m- Well first we had B/W tv then Color then VCR's now DVR's and the tech is getting better everyday. The ones that lose out are the ones with companies that do not take this into account and stay with older tech. DTV is one that is expanding it's tech by going with new tech. Comcast is buying old tech with Tivo instead of new and you think ad's are bad now with Tivo get ready for the Comcast software version.
Hey if you did not know we have a nice group in the Cable/sat forum on this site that would love a good discussions about his. Make it a visit k?
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