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Shack
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Bloomington, IN | Re: 2 Questions quote:
Isn't that more of a statement?
No, you can word it as a question in that way. It implies questioning your own impression of something. | |
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| Re: 2 Questions said by hayabusa3303  :Power line is to be able to reach speeds of 100 mbps in both up and down at the same time. I also read somewhere where they are not caping people or turning them back either. I do know the test where a great in ohio and maryland and teh company is expanding. I do know right now they where stating 3 mbps down on there web site but remember this is still in the beta tests run, There are in home BPL systems running at 100 Mbps, but not Internet access systems. MV powerlines are very different from household lines.
One thing to think about people who read this forum and hate powerline.. Remember without power your internet is DEAD.
Who here hates powerlines or electricity? I think it's the radio interference from BPL that everyone hates. Remember, without cows, you wouldn't have milk to drink...therefore you should have cow manure in your living room. | |
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clubs: | Quarter millon homes? That's it? "which aims to pass 250,000 homes in three years"
When compared to FIoS and other projects such as SBC's Lightspeed (18 million) this is small potatoes. | |
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| Re: Quarter millon homes? That's it? said by meskinct :"which aims to pass 250,000 homes in three years" When compared to FIoS and other projects such as SBC's Lightspeed (18 million) this is small potatoes. I think 250K in regards to the subscribers themselves. Since it's over powerlines, it can quickly be added to every area and supported. Maybe it'll force DSL companies to expand their networks so they provide DSL to rural areas.
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| Re: Quarter millon homes? That's it? (1) "Since it's over powerlines, it can quickly be added to every area and supported." is incorrect. It has major deployment issues, not the least of which is how to get the data itself to each injection point.
(2) "Rural areas" will never see this unless via customer-owned utility (i.e. co-op), and for them running fiber r wireless to each customer is still cheaper (but not "cheap", quick or easy). | |
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| Re: Quarter millon homes? That's it? »www.qrpis.org/~k3ng/bpl.html
»www.gobpl.com/
Q: Why won't BPL be economical in rural areas?
A: Let's do the math for 10 people per mile of powerline with BPL...
Assume:
CPE cost: $500 each
Repeaters: $1K each
Customer Take Rate: 30%
Backhaul cost: $1k per month (a T1)
Repeater distance: 600 feet
Feedpoint cost/misc routing equip: $5k
Revenue per customer per month: $40
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Number of repeaters needed: 8
Number of customers: 3
Nonrecurring cost: $14.5k
Nonrecurring costs over two years: $604 per month
Recurring Cost: $1k per month
Revenue: $120 per month
It's easy to see that rural BPL isn't profitable.
Q: Won't BPL be different than Cable and DSL and deliver broadband to those who don't have it, especially in rural areas?
A: If you don't have broadband now, there's probably one good reason - lack of sufficient revenue in your area. People are mistaken in thinking that BPL providers are going to go out of their way to deliver BPL to country folk, as if this is some kind of humanitarian effort to get the country on the 'net. It's not.
Companies are in business to make a profit, plain and simple. Being a good corporate citizen in a community makes great press releases, but such efforts stop when the bottom line is affected.
Let's talk about the differences and similarities between Cable, DSL, and BPL for a moment. Cable requires a unit at the origination of the cable system, also known as a headend. This unit is expensive, but can service hundreds to thousands of customers.
The cable system is already built with repeaters for the video part of the system called amplifiers. So the major investment for cable is at the headend, and service can be delivered basically anywhere cable already is deployed. The upstream Internet network must be brought to a single point, the cable headend.
DSL is based out of telephone central offices using a device or peripheral called a DSLAM. Like a cable modem headend unit, it can provide service to hundreds of customers. DSL service can be provided about 18,000 feet from the DSLAM. This has severely limited DSL deployment. As with cable, the upstream Internet network must be brought to a single point, the central office. Any ILEC or CLEC probably already has significant Internet bandwidth available at any central office serving business customers.
BPL service is provided by a DSLAM/Cable headend type device, but its effective distance is 200 meters or 656 feet. Every 200 meters a repeater must be used to regenerate the signal. BPL service can't really be distributed from a central point like Cable or DSL, so the upstream Internet network must be backhauled to each BPL feed point via telco facilities such as fiber or copper.
So to deploy BPL an up front investment must be made in BPL headend/feed point equipment and repeaters. There's going to be significant recurring costs in backhauling the IP traffic from the numerous BPL feedpoints serving an area. Neither DSL or Cable has this recurring cost or need for multiple network origination points.
These costs unique to BPL make it even less attractive for deployment in rural areas that Cable or DSL as customer densities and revenue potential is lower. While it may be stated by BPL providers that initial metropolitan buildouts are needed to subsidize rural deployments, why would any for-profit company expand into rural areas when it's a losing proposition?
Q: Why don't the utilities just bury all the power lines to lessen interference?
A: If digging up the entire country for power line burial would be an option, it would make better sense to just run buried fiber everywhere. Fiber has so much, much more bandwidth compared to BPL it would be frivolous to go through such a drastic project just to bury cabling that can ideally carry only 100 kHz of bandwidth
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| Re: Quarter millon homes? That's it? said by guitarzan :A: If digging up the entire country for power line burial would be an option, it would make better sense to just run buried fiber everywhere. BPL is one hellova pipe dream.Google I'm ashamed of you People seem to be making an unwarranted assumption that BPL revenue will be generated by providing services.
It can equally well generate revenue using a pyramid scheme to defraud gullible investors and ignorant CEOs. | |
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Skytop, PA | Re: Quarter millon homes? That's it? That's the extent of BPL.You said it oh so midly and gently | |
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| What a waste of money Unless the FCC rules are re-written to null and
void all interference issues. BPL can't work.
All the "BPL test case failures" around the world.
Should be an example to why BPL can't work.
No matter how you candy-coat BPL. It just doesn't work. | |
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Charlotte, NC | Re: What a waste of money Isn't one of Google's internal mottos "Do no harm"? | |
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| Re: What a waste of money said by ke4pym :Isn't one of Google's internal mottos "Do no harm"? Precisely what I was thinking. So much for that, I guess.
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| Re: What a waste of money Ditto. (Except for the fact that Google is already trying to muscle out prior existing trademark and site owners from some names that Google wants to "claim" for it's own... Google is ALREADY "doing evil", and has been for some time, and it will only get worse now that Google is a large, powerful, "public" company, and isn't ashamed to throw its weight around to crush the little guys to get what it wants. They're really no different than Microsoft during their early years. I wish people could see that.) | |
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Forest Hills, NY
| No its not a waste of money. Rural areas have no broadband other than WildBlue and the like which is more expensive and very latent.
USA needs a big push for broadband in the rural underserved areas. For the average urban and suburban area, BPL can also freely compete HOWEVER the free marketplaces as of now mean that BPL wont be competitive offering. | |
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Bloomington, IN | Re: What a waste of money Unfortunatly it seems from what I have noticed that these BPL rollouts are not in the underserved areas. | |
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| Re: What a waste of money said by wispman :Wireless is the only broadband for the rural. BPL will never make it out of the cities.... What's funny is that even Wireless isn't coming to my area. | |
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Chicago, IL | Re: Loss of Prospective Oh boy, here go the HAMs again. Like pitbulls and a piece of meat and their God-like know-it-all attitude. | |
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| Re: Loss of Prospective ..-. --- .-. -.- ..-
I'm a HAM. Picture this - You are authorized to use a spectrum. Is it really right for someone to just transmit right over you? I'm sure if they were using a frequency used by radio or TV you would see a lot more bitching. At least the HAMs are trying to work with the BPL providers.
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| You are so right...how dare those Hams have the exclusive rights to the "Laws of Physics"! How dare these Hams, many who are professionally and largely well-versed in physics and radio propagations, share their knowledge- thus appearing as "G-dlike know-it-alls" to the lesser-informed!
If folks want to be misguided by the promises of BPL and if the Google suits want to ignore these silly "Laws of Physics", they can simply write a company policy canceling them and ask the public to ignore them by completely denying them at press conferences.
We all know that the BPL proponents have been completely honest about the nature of pushing radio waves across unshielded power lines. If they say it's great technology, with non-evasive propagation and will be swiftly and economically deployed with the specific purpose of rewarding rural areas with broadband, who is ANYONE to doubt or challenge their promise? How dare any naysayer bring the hurtful truth to the table? And the nerve of anyone to present hard data against broadband being sent over power lines or the failed attempts and discontinued trials throughout the world.
Apparently for some, if you do not sway to a popular belief fed to a largely misinformed public, you are a nuisance and an annoyingly rabid truth-teller.
And, for those who can't read the fine details- Ham Radio operators, the NTIA, and many other radio-driven public/commercial/military/hobbyist services are NOT against ANYONE having access to broadband. That would be a silly, myopic and rabid stand to take. They are specifically deeply concerned about the inherent and presently indelible interference to local and worldwide radio communications- whether or not others are unaware, disinterested or indifferent to how this may potentially impact on them or others.
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| said by apsinkus :Oh boy, here go the HAMs again. Like pitbulls and a piece of meat and their God-like know-it-all attitude. LOL! No worries though, BPL can be easily deployed now. If any HAMs complain about neighborhood interference, the local municipality can use its new eminent domain powers to remove the troublemakers from the community. God bless the liberal left. | |
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| Re: Liberal left? said by vernalex :What does that have to do with the "liberal left"? Would it be because historically speaking, they are the ones who belive the common peon (most of us) should not have property rights, but be property of the state ouselves?
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| No. said by RayW :said by vernalex :What does that have to do with the "liberal left"? Would it be because historically speaking, they are the ones who belive the common peon (most of us) should not have property rights, but be property of the state ouselves? Nope. Actually, the eminent domain judgement in question was passed by the conservative right in support of businesses over individuals, under the guise of business development that will make the lives of individuals better. The decision was passed by the Supreme Court, which just so happens to have nine members and two of which are "liberal". So, you can't blame this decision on "liberals". | |
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| Re: No. said by vernalex : So, you can't blame this decision on "liberals". Note - I said Historically.
But to answer your statement, my reading indicates:
The court has precisely three conservatives: Justices William Rehnquist (Nixon/Reagan), Antonin Scalia (Reagan) and Clarence Thomas (Bush). Anthony Kennedy (Reagan) and Sandra Day O'Connor (Reagan) are wild cards. Justices John Paul Stevens (Ford), Stephen Breyer (Clinton), David Souter (Bush) and Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Clinton) are liberals. One so-called moderate, O'Connor, leans heavily liberal. As of 2003, O'Connor had voted with Ginsburg on 75 percent of the cases on which both had sat.
I added the presidents, the text is from one of several sites that I looked at.
As far as the vote, I read:
Stevens (L), Kennedy (?), Souter (L), Ginsburg (L), and Breyer (L) voted for it.
O'Connor (?), Rehnquist (C), Antonin Scalia (C), and Thomas (C) voted against it.
Your impressions may vary.
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| Re: No. The problem here is that it was not conservative, liberal, republican nor democrat. This was passed by both sides, not one or the other. Neither side can say "libs did it" or "cons did it." It was both sides that took our right to property ownership.
While the left and right, liberals and conservatives fight amongst themselves, the government (both sides) are taking our rights away from us.
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| The sad thing is, that recent decision regarding "eminent domain", is just another crack in this once great rock of a republic. You see, even the founding fathers of our nation clearly recogized the evils of democracy, and of the "tyranny of the majority". But by their recent court ruling that a majority group of people, once they recognize that they can benefit, by depriving the rights and property of a minority group - they have essentially decided that we are not a republic, with respect for the rights and properties of minorities - but a democracy, whereby the "majority rule" is absolute and crushing. What's next? A decision that all of the people of (insert skin color / racial background here), are a a threat to the economic prosperity of a local region, and that therefore, by this new interpretation of the doctrine of "eminent domain", that the local town / municipality can decide to evict all of those minority residents, to make way for "more prosperous contributors to (their local) society"? It's a very dangerous and slippery slope that those SCJs have embarked upon, and they dont have very far to go before some local jurisdiction decides to attempt exactly what I hypothesized above. Is this the return of "seperate but equal"?
It's secondarily interesting, because of something that I read on someone's blog regarding Bush's statements on his appointments of future SCJs, and choosing someone that will be a "strict constructionist" of the Constitution (strangely, although Bush is not), and the analysis of that mention in the blog, was that if such a thing were followed to the logical extreme, we might well end up again with the "seperate but equal" doctrine regarding racial discrimination.
How strangely coincidental then, that this recent SCJ ruling could well lead us indeed in that very direction, although via a slightly different route. | |
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| Re: No. said by I miss liberty:
The sad thing is, that recent decision regarding "eminent domain", is just another crack in this once great rock of a republic. You see, even the founding fathers of our nation clearly recogized the evils of democracy, and of the "tyranny of the majority".
How strangely coincidental then, that this recent SCJ ruling could well lead us indeed in that very direction, although via a slightly different route.
Not intending to trivialize your post by not quoting all of it.Excellent and valid observations eerily bring to mind Germany in the 1930's of naziism doctrine.Fresh out of histories books starting to emerge from our political leaders. | |
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Great idea thanks.:o
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join:2003-08-04
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| said by apsinkus :Oh boy, here go the HAMs again. Like pitbulls and a piece of meat and their God-like know-it-all attitude. OK, let's review:
Cable uses radio frequencies used by licensed wireless services and doesn't interfere with wireless communications. Cable is a shielded medium.
The various flavors of DSL use radio frequencies and don't interfere with wireless communications. DSL uses twisted pairs and is self-shielding.
Wireless broadband networks use unlicensed or unlicensed frequencies allocated specifically for such services and doesn't interfere with other services.
Fiber optics use light to transmit gigabits of data, and don't interfere with wireless communications.
And BPL uses an unshielded medium using radio frequencies occupied by licensed wireless services, and has been shown both with theory and field measurements that it radiates whatever frequencies it uses.
So using your infinite wisdom, which broadband medium is the red-headed stepchild of the bunch? | |
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| Anything definitive on Interference at Cincinnati? I had heard positive things regarding the apparent lack of interference to HF at the Cincinnati test site but seem to remember reading a posting recently from someone in the affected area stating that the interference was present and significant. Does anyone have definitive info regarding interference at this location?
Maybe it was this hardware/location that was limiting itself to low VHF and/or notching the amateur bands. I don't have much use for the notching approach since it just pushes the problem into someone else's domain (assuming it even works). I also doubt that all users of this hardware will forever limit themselves to a relatively narrow chunk of spectrum - they'll eventually want/need the HF part for additional bandwidth - then watch the complaints surface!
I always though Google was a technically savvy organization but this decision makes me wonder - I hope they know what they're getting into with this technology. | |
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| Re: Anything definitive on Interference at Cincinnati? said by bpl4all:
none... in Philadelphia, Virginia and some other rolled out places !!!
Thanks Google for the BPL investment !!!!
There is no BPL in Philadelphia; they're rolling out wireless. If you're talking about Manassas, VA, there were at least six FCC filings regarding interference from that site. | |
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| said by bpl4all:
none... in Philadelphia, Virginia and some other rolled out places !!!
Thanks Google for the BPL investment !!!!
As rf-engineer pointed out your response is lacking in both accuracy and precision. Based on the quality of your input to this debate and Google's surprising selection of this technology, perhaps we can assume that they came to you for investment advice?
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| Google's First Lost. Well, Well. Looks like Google will be getting it's first $100 million lost. They should just stick to a search engine.
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| 250k in three years?! Wow...no wonder its taking so long for dial-up to die. Broadband companies refuse to get it in gear and make the necessary moves to make sure there's no honest reason NOT to get broadband. Between SBC and its 15 dollar deal being in like, six states, and BPL moving as slow as frozen molasses, we're getting nowhere.
BPL could easily be deployed in rural areas (like where I live--eleven miles away from the nearest CO). Everyone has electricity, and from what I've read, there's no extreme process required to install it...unlike Cable. (Which I've waited nearly 2 months for.) But they seem intent on being permanently small-time, and it seems the only way for people in rural areas to get broadband is to either wait or move. | |
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| Re: 250k in three years?! LOL two months waiting for cable so far eh? I waited over 3 years for my first DSL service. It all comes down to money, if they cant make enough, they wont offer the service for a long time.  | |
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Grove City, PA | Re: 250k in three years?! if they do it right and replace all the lines with shielded wires i can understand a 3 year time frame but why bother replacing the lines if you can just use fiber? | |
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join:2004-05-14
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| Not again..... Anyone here a professional on the bpl physics.This BS about this and that is guaranteed on every BPL thread.For once i would like facts and not arguing and backstabing.I personally dont think Google or anyone will invest that much money in anything that was a guaranteed loser.It's a reason those "suits" are billionares and we are peons.They know what they are doing! | |
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What Google, Goldman Sachs and Haerst know that everyone here doesn`t know and just making assumptions is a wrong concept. Innovations is always hard for those tunnel-visioned people afraid of change and new ideas !!!!
Since the BROADBAND BPL rollout is there any plane crashing, colliding and emergency calls being interfered ???? None that i read about or heard in the news.
It`s time to adopt to changes folks. Let Google do their own thing for the good of the majority !!! | |
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| BPL & Malaysia & Google Perhaps BPL supporters and basher should pay attention to the financial markets. Last week, there was an article on the CNBC/Money website that stated BPL will be deployed throughout Malaysia and available to all, by the end of this summer. I suspect the folks at Google, an 80 billion dollar media company, have enough smarts to know a good investment when they see one. Betcha Time Warner, Cox, Comcast, SBC, Bellsouth, Quest and other broadband providers aren't sitting around being naysayers. To date, I haven't heard anything from those companies concerning the growing threat of BPL competition. There are a lot of folks worldwide, who live in rural areas and under-served by broadband access. The company that can deploy broadband everywhere will turn out to be the winner. Folks at Google as well as savvy investors know that all to well. Fiber is nice, but I suspect its much more expensive to deploy. I don't recommend holding ones breath if they are expecting to have fiber access in their home anytime soon. In fact, its going to be a very long time before its fully operational throughout the US. Wall streeters will let us all know when it will happen. After all, somebody had to make, sell and service the equipment. Nice rhetoric here, but money talks and BS walks. I wonder what company(ies) is providing the equipment for Malaysia's BPL intiatives? | |
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| Re: BPL & Malaysia & Google You seem to be implying that if BPL is successful as an investment then there's nothing to complain about and we should all be happy?
Do you discount entirely all of the negative attributes of this technology?
Do you discount entirely the cost-of-deployment arguments made previously?
I don't give a rat's rear end how successful or otherwise BPL might be in making Google and others wealthy if, in doing so it renders the HF spectrum useless. | |
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| said by MCRSR1 :Perhaps BPL supporters and basher should pay attention to the financial markets. What were the financial markets saying in 1998 and 1999 about the .coms?
Money talks but it's quickly shut up when physics and reality smacks it in the face.... | |
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| We Actually use CurrentLink! I am user of CurrentLink and can tell you this stuff really works here in Cincinnati. The speeds seem to depend more upon the condition of your actual home wiring vs. pole to pole transmission. I have the 3 Mps / 3 Mps service ($32 monthly) and speed tests show a rather steady 2.70-2.80 Mbps down and 3-3.2 Mbps up. Its the upstream that sets if apart from Time Warner or Cincinnati Bell DSL. I know several HAM's in the area and asked if they felt there was any interference and got a resounding no. Current uses a modified Asoka PL9620-ETH adapter to help with this. Their backhaul is Level 3 for now which seems ok latency wise. We are now testing CurrentVoice, an integrated VOIP product they intent to roll out in the near future which line quality now falls between BroadVoice & Sunrocket. The real question as an actual user is IF Current will ramp up the speeds to compete with higer cable speeds and/or match future FIOS type of offerings? | |
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good of the majority !!!
Believe it or not, amateur radio is good for the majority! When the events on 9/11 took place, did google come out to provide emergency communications? When the Tsunami happened, did good come out to provide emergency communications? Who provided Emergency communications during the hurricane season last September, and who's running hurricane watch nets now. Its the hams my friends. BPL will destroy the communication that we use to save lives. BPL will destroy communications used by Maritime Mobile, Aircraft, Federal and State governments. BPL is a flawed technology. It is extremly costly.
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