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Standard tier to 6Mbps, addition of faster tiers
(old news - 11:36AM Tuesday Jul 05 2005)
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When a provider is planning speed upgrades, our forums begin to rumble a month in advance; new Comcast speeds being no exception. Some users are being told by techs that higher speeds should appear within a month or two. From one Comcast insider: "Regular tier moves to 6Mbps/384kbps, there will be a similar download with higher upload, then an 8Mbps/768kbps tier, and one more higher tier." It's not clear if they'll match Cox and Adelphia's respective 15 & 16Mbps tiers (in competitive markets).

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The Joker

join:2003-08-01
00001

Cool!

WOW!

fegul
Premium
join:2004-08-23
united state

Re: Cool!

x2, I can't wait to see this one

LiamJunket
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ
·Comcast


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Re: Cool!

said by fegul See Profile:

x2, I can't wait to see this one
I hope it is true. But it will have little impact on browsing speeds. May allow large downloads of MS software fixes to run a little quicker.

What is needed is faster upload speeds, not faster download speeds.
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floydb_1982

join:2004-08-25
Kent, WA
·Clearwire Wireless
·Comcast

Sucks that the upload speed is going stay the same

The current I have the Comcast 4.4Mbps/384Kbps and I'm reading there only going to upgrade the download speed by 2Mbps and keep the upload speed at 384Kbps. I mean if Comcast is doing speed upgrades you would at lest think they would make the upload speed faster than it is now and not leave it at the same speed it is now . I'm not at all happy about the uploads speed at all Sometime I like to email myself larges amounts of data when I have no CD-R disc's to use and at 384Kbps I have to wait a while. Why Comcast is keeping the upload speed the same I'll never know.

Scree
In the pipe 5 by 5

join:2001-04-24
Mount Laurel, NJ
wow indeed, but what's the secret price increase to go along with it? doh

Netbum

join:2002-04-08
Oakley, CA
Its all about the $$$$$
Its already too high.
And now a possible third tier?
The Hell with that.
systems2000
What? You Say It's Fixed. Hah

join:2001-11-29
Cyberspace

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I've Got A Better Idea!


Why not leave me at 3000/384 and drop the monthly price to $29.95 (or give me 1500/256 for $14.95) and also remove the CATV "Blackmail Fee"?

dellsweig
Extreme Aerobatics
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-10
Campbell Hall, NY
You have to love competition!!!

I hope Time Warner RR follows for the bandwidth ride....

dpierce
Lazyrabbitt
Premium
join:2002-09-30
Cream Ridge, NJ
Does anyone know what the additional teir will be and how much extra it will cost?

gate1975mlm
Premium
join:2001-09-30
Philadelphia, PA
Bring it on! More speed the better!

thisismyname1

join:2004-07-26
00000

Same here.

I just hope they increase the upload on the higher tier to at least 1Mbps. I mean come on when hosting competition comes I can't match FIOS or even come close to 2Mbps.

I think a small boost on the upload would be great especially when hosting 16 man room sometimes it can lag a little with 768Kbps upload.

8Mbps/1Mbps would rock.
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Maarvin
Premium
join:2005-04-11
Denver, CO
Isn't business competition great?
dmf415

join:2001-10-26
San Francisco, CA
Who Here is suffering from Latency problems?

Ever since they raised it to 4megs i've been averaging 400ms ping times every night. In the daytime it works fine. At night when everyone is on, it sucks.

Now they are raising it to 6? WOW
J
California Dreamin'

join:2002-02-08
California

Charter where are you?

Come on Charter!

TheSaint

join:2002-01-25
Atascadero, CA
clubs:

Re: Charter where are you?

Charter will only upgrade if they feel the heat from SBC or other providers that are upgrading their systems. What Comcast does will not directly affect Charter.

MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:

Yeah.

One might add that, at least on Cox, users seeing a relible 15mbps connection are few and far between.

oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA

I'll get excited...

When the 500ms latency and 80% evening slowdowns are gone. While they certainly should provide the service to areas that have the infrastructure to handle as I mentioned in another thread I wish Comcrap would give equal attention to those areas like mine that are plagued with constant problems.
Justin413

join:2003-07-22
Methuen, MA

Re: I'll get excited...

so does this mean if i already have the gold tier, it will be increased to 8Mbs/768, but then there will also be another tier that i can upgrade to for an additional fee?.. please tell me that isnt so... i think i pay enough as it is now..

oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA

Re: I'll get excited...

You'll get bumped up.
nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

still lacking

what is it with the last century uploads? I would happily remain at my current d/l speed (4M) for double the upload (or more) of the current 384K for that tier.

Besides 4M,5M,6M, all sorta the same ballpark. Next jump I wanna take is to 10M or 15M (can you hear me now?).

Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA

Re: still lacking

said by nasadude See Profile:

what is it with the last century uploads? I would happily remain at my current d/l speed (4M) for double the upload (or more) of the current 384K for that tier.
Evey time speed upgrades are mentioned someone complains about the upload (come to think of it, I think it's you who complain about the upload). You aren't going to get it because upload increases are relatively expensive, and for the most part no one will notice except for the P2P crowd, which no ISP really wants to deal with anyway.
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Eek2121

join:2002-10-12
Andover, NJ

Re: still lacking

wrong. Upload costs the same as download.

Combat Chuck
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Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA

Re: still lacking

said by Eek2121 See Profile:

wrong. Upload costs the same as download.
sorry, you are wrong; It's a lot harder for a cable modem to transmit data upstream than it is for the CMTS to transmit downstream. For one in a cable system you only have one device talking on the downstream channel, while the upstream has to be shared between several different devices which entails getting them to not talk over each other.

You must remember that, "cost" isn't always as simple as money.
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sitrix

join:2002-04-15
Tacoma, WA

Re: still lacking

You are right. It involves a little more "foot work" to get upload increased on cable lines, but does Comcast always has to choose the easy way out, especially at their current healthy financial state? Only real reason Comcast even bumped 256k upload, was because you could almost saturate it just downloading at 3.2megabit due to TCP/IP overhead and with this new 6.3/378 (guessing on the .3 part) we'll be back to the same problem again. Why not just do things right and roll out 3 solid plans (like 6/512, 8/768, 10/1 or less realistic 6/512, 10/1, 15/1.5).

Also, Combat Chuck... In case you missed previous threads with requests of Comcast Customers for higher upload speeds, then I would have to remind you that there is a new growing customer base that actually uses their upload on things other then P2P (VoIP rings a bell to you? ). Upload is being used more and more with introduction of VoIP, larger megapixel cameras (sending paks of pictures over email), remote desktop management (those are in minority) and along with other ways of easily maxing out your upload by simple daily usage. So you might want to review your "upload = p2p" view...

Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA

Re: still lacking

said by sitrix See Profile:

In case you missed previous threads with requests of Comcast Customers for higher upload speeds, then I would have to remind you that there is a new growing customer base that actually uses their upload on things other then P2P (VoIP rings a bell to you? ). Upload is being used more and more with introduction of VoIP, larger megapixel cameras (sending paks of pictures over email), remote desktop management (those are in minority) and along with other ways of easily maxing out your upload by simple daily usage. So you might want to review your "upload = p2p" view...
The bandwidth required for VOIP and sending occasional video and pictures is nothing compared to P2P, who's architecture is being designed to max out whatever bandwidth you throw at it 24-7.

Any good an upload increase does isn't going to be noticed by most users. In fact the only thing most users will notice is service degradation if it causes other problems.
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Cthen

join:2004-08-01
Ypsilanti, MI
·Comcast

said by Combat Chuck See Profile:

said by nasadude See Profile:

and for the most part no one will notice except for the P2P crowd, which no ISP really wants to deal with anyway.
What about people like me who are admins to more than just a few web sites? We don't only upload just .html files and pretty little graphics ya know

DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
·Charter Pipeline

This much speed is unrealistic

Faster speeds are fine, but unless cable ISP's have drastically changed their networks, it seems like they will head into congestion problems like they had 5 years ago.

Allowing a smaller and smaller number of users to saturate the bandwidth in a given area seems counter productive. I'm seeing that just with 5mbps, there are only a limited number of Internet related things that will deliver that much bandwidth consistantly. Why will giving users 2 and 3 times as much speed be any better: 1) to me? 2) to the network?
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Jim Gurd
Premium
join:2000-07-08
Plymouth, MI
·Comcast


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DSL

Talk America will soon be offering DSL in my area. They are asking $24.95 for 4000/384 service (assuming you are close enough to the CO). For those who don't know, Talk America is an alternative local telephone company (CLEC). Unlike most CLEC's they are actually facilities based as opposed to reselling SBC service through UNE-P. I ported my number over to them several years ago.

I called them and they told me I am on an older system and will be transitioned to the new system on July 29th so I should call back about a week later. They will then run a line test to see if I can get DSL. If so I will most likely switch. Comcast is charging $45.95 per month including modem rental. Even if I only get half the rated speed it's still worth the price savings.

Comcast is going to be forced to cut their prices and not just offer faster speeds in order to retain customers. They may not want to cut prices but will have no choice if DSL keeps undercutting them.

One other thing I've noticed is that more and more spam is slipping through the Brightmail filters. Hopefully with a new e-mail address that doesn't end in @comcast.net I will get less spam if I switch providers.
jfarrackan

join:2002-07-07
Belleville, MI

Re: DSL

Just a note, call Comcast and tell them you want to schedule to disconnect your cable modem because you will be moving to Yahoo DSL for 14.95 a month.

I did and got $15 off for a year on my cable modem. Then i said you are still twice as expensive as Yahoo is there anything else you can do?
Then they took $10 off my basic cable.

Total $25 off for a year for a 5 min phone call.

This was early June.

I had my mom call a few days ago (July 28th) and she got $20 off for a year.

Enjoy
jagged

join:2003-07-01
Boynton Beach, FL

Pffft

just a 384 upload? How stingy. A 512 or 768 would have been nice. Sending a 300MB file to the office is not fun.
Matsayz
Premium
join:2005-02-08
Tucson, AZ

Re: Pffft

do you not have a cd-burner??? good lord, i'd never send that over the net.
Justin413

join:2003-07-22
Methuen, MA

Re: Pffft

hahaha honestly... burning it and mailing it out would be more safe.

djrobx

join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable

quote:
just a 384 upload? How stingy. A 512 or 768 would have been nice. Sending a 300MB file to the office is not fun.
Upgrade to the 6000/768 plan. Needs like yours are why they offer it. High uploads are more of a strain on their system, so it makes sense for them to charge a little more for that option.
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do you not have a cd-burner??? good lord, i'd never send that over the net.
300mb isn't that big. I upload CD images to the office all the time with my effective 512kbps of upload. If he upgrades to the 768kbps plan it will only take an hour to send the file (300,000 KB at 96 KB / sec is 3125 seconds, or 52 minutes). Much faster than burning and mailing. We have broadband, let's use it!

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lkjiin lkjciw

you know..using cable there is a top end upload speed... and if theres a lot of folks on your node all at the high end speeds, then things kind of STOP.

I'm just waiting for FIOS to become available....
DMS1

join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX

Until Comcast migrate everyone's upstream modulation to QAM-16 instead of the current QPSK, they are going to be severely limited on upstream bandwidth.

I have a suspicion that a lot of the downstream packet loss that people are seeing is actually due to upstream congestion which causes the acknowledge packets to be lost. This seems worse on older modems. I guess they have less buffer for upstream packets and therefore timeout quicker.

Mazakman

join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY
·FrontierNet Intern..
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T CallVantage

Waiting on RoadRunner now

Come on RoadRunner. 6000/512 would be nice here in Rochester, NY area. From inside sources...Frontier DSL is having a silent roll out in this area to 6000 kb/sec speed and is prepared to go as high as 10 mb/sec speed eventually. Competition is good in this area for sure. Frontier DSL still available for $29.95/month for 2 years.
Bytezboy

join:2001-05-17
New York, NY

Re: Waiting on RoadRunner now

Road Runner is always slow with upgrading speeds.

SirChaos

join:2002-01-15
Marysville, WA

Blah Blah

You know it's great seeing all the great news about Comcast.....Verizon.....Cox......but.....COME ON BRIGHTHOUSE TAMPA! This is sad.....no news....no plans.....and I'm stuck at 5.0 with 384 upload. No Fiber in my area.....man....I wish I had other choices.
fiberguy
My views are my own.
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Re: Blah Blah

said by SirChaos See Profile:

You know it's great seeing all the great news about Comcast.....Verizon.....Cox......but.....COME ON BRIGHTHOUSE TAMPA! This is sad.....no news....no plans.....and I'm stuck at 5.0 with 384 upload. No Fiber in my area.....man....I wish I had other choices.
So, what can't you do with the shabby 5.0/384 internet connection you are "stuck with?"

You are still faster than the majority of Americans at this time.
mikejz84

join:2001-09-03
Gainesville, FL

I love this line

It's not clear if they'll match Cox and Adelphia's respective 15 & 16Mbps tiers (in competitive markets).

Yeah, this is a cable company, how many competitive markets are there exactly?:)

pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
Premium
join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
clubs:
·Comcast

won't beleive it 'til i see it

Well we all got soo excited the last time we heard rumors of a Comcast speed boost.. and that took 6 - 8 months (and in some cases, it's still not done) and didn't work out too well for many users.. too many speed and connection drop related problems after the 'upgrade' with some users approaching dialup speeds!

so with that in mind, I'll not be holding my breath and will just hang out and see what happens..... who knows, they may do the speed upgrade faster now that they've upgraded most of the inferstructure - or not.

I do hope when Comcast decides to roll this out that they a) do it a lot faster then the last one b) have the back-end already in place to support it c) have a better plan on the roll-out itself..

Just my 2 bits worth..
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KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
·Comcast
·Verizon Online DSL

I'll take it!

Once Comcast rolls it out, I'll take the fastest Tier they can offer me.

I am already at 6/768 and am loving it.

Sure, I'm willing to pay another $10 or so a month for faster speeds.

bigdaddy17

join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL

well this is great..

BellSouth will never be able to upgrade me past 1.5mbps and I think we're paying $40 sadly. But right now they are the only competition in my area. COME ON HELLSOUTH!!!
tbaker397

join:2004-07-19
Berlin, PA

BAH

Stingy bastards, bump the upload to 512.
bhorow

join:2004-05-17
Forest Hills, NY

4 or 5 or 6

Does it really matter. I think that you need to get everyone at 10, and it will happen. Cable companies probably will be able to do this in the next 2 years. I just don't see these current service speeds lasting very long.

I know cable companies want to make the most out of there networks and therefore will only raise speeds to fight competition. So the Sooner Verizon moves into your market the better it is for consumers.

The battle over the price for 10meg has come. From what i can see there are 3 price points.
$30.00 price point, $45.00 price point and $60.00 price point.

I don't think that anyone would pay more than $60.00 for internet access. At least anyone smart.

Remember that even if your streaming digital content, the site that your connecting too doesn't have unlimited bandwidth either.

So keep that in mind when you start going up the ladder.

staticx57

join:2002-01-24
Toms River, NJ
clubs:

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Yay

maybe ill finally get my 6 megabits i should get, on the 8 Megabit teir.

richardpor
Fur it up

join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR

Lower Prices are better

I rather see lower prices rather than higher speed. For me, 4 megs is plenty enough for web surfing and some videos.
Nailbag

join:2001-10-16
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·Bell Sympatico

Waaaa waaaaaa waaaaaaa

the more you get the more you wantit won't end
4064 / 721
Your download speed : 4162493 bps, or 4064 kbps.
A 508.1 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 738433 bps, or 721 kbps.
this is mine frikken Rogers and they suck too so be happy
and quit BITCHEN
k1420

join:2002-04-01

the truth

lets face it guys most of us just dont have to many options when it comes to isp look at verizon for one thing sure their providing fios to some parts of the country but not all of us are getting it. so for a telephone company they sure are moving slow.atleast comcast and some of the cable co are making an attempt to increase their speeds.so lets all give them some time. i know their tec help sucks but what can you do they hire people that dont know crap about computers except what their taught to do its a job for them remember.its not like their in front of the computer relaxing drinking some coke eating junk while its smearing all over the keyboard.so in the end all im saying is most of us just dont have much choice.but im with all of you guys . i want more speeds for gaming purposes.gamers for life dudes.

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