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@69.156.x.x
| Meh Personally i always delete all of my cookies after an internet session.
I know that the majority of them are harmless but i prefer to have a clean machine each time that i log on the net.I know that some sites do not like that we constantly delete them but meh , they will have to live with it.:D
There is absolutely no point in this "lets improve the image of cookies" campaign for the simple fact that the majority of mainstream users probably don't even know what a cookie is in the first place.
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join:2004-03-31
Elk Grove, CA | Re: Meh I personally like cookies, especially Nestle Toll House. So soft and chewy.  | |
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techjoe
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Schererville, IN
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| Re: Meh said by hadirtyJlo  :I personally like cookies, especially Nestle Toll House. So soft and chewy. But are they good for you??
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lazarus_
join:2002-08-31
Resolute, NU
1 edit | Re: Meh said by techjoe :said by hadirtyJlo :I personally like cookies, especially Nestle Toll House. So soft and chewy. But are they good for you?? Not If it has trans fat. | |
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join:2003-09-05
Minneapolis, MN | Re: Meh yea now we're just making crap up.
This post now has 0 grams of aluminum fat | |
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some guy
@milwwi.ameritech | Re: Meh trans fat is a buzzword to draw in morons
as if the saturated fat that contains no trans fat somehow becomes healthy | |
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Defcon888
Premium
join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA | mMmmm I like OREOS and Chips Ahoy!  | |
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| MrBentor
join:2003-02-18
Seattle, WA
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| Such tactics are committing unethical, illegal and They say (generically) that "The user is not proficient enough in technology to know if the cookie is good or bad, or how it works," and since I am a user I am not proficient? I have 20 years experience with this stuff, hell I used a modified teletype machine to get email and Usenet in the mid '80s. I've been around the net since well before we had web browsers and the HTTP protocol. And they say that because I delete cookies I am dumb and not proficient?
You delete files - the reason is irrelevant - they a on your computer , that is all that matters. A third party comes along and “undeletes” a file that you deleted? That is patently unauthorized access.
I publicly charge that:
* and any person, company or entity who creates, publishes, and uses such tactics are committing unethical, illegal and tortuous acts.
* such remote undeletion (software) violates the following (inclusive but not limited to):
- 18 U.S.C. 1029, Unauthorized network access.
- 18 U.S.C. 1030, Computer Fraud
- 18 U.S.C. 2701, et.seq, Violations of Electronic Communications Act | |
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BonezX
Basement Dweller
Premium
join:2004-04-13
Canada | Re: Such tactics are committing unethical, illegal and they have been doing this for years.
and the same thing is done by the **AA's | |
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join:2000-08-16 | er...that would be tortious acts...though I can sympathize with your leap to subjective juxtaposition of effect versus legal exactitude. | |
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@qwest.net
| Re: Meh the user ( the general public being computer illiterate ) is not proficient enough in technology to know if the cookie is good or bad, or how it works," according to the CEO.
any ?'s other then how in the hell did they get a valid drivers license? | |
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Defcon888
Premium
join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA | Hilarious! I only let my system store trusted websites' cookies! The rest gets deleted after I close my browser! | |
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hurleyp
join:2000-06-20
Ottawa, ON | Re: Hilarious! Yes. I-am-in-need-of-re-education. Please-re-educate-me!
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@rr.com | Re: Hilarious! Hmmm... Isn't this what's done in China to Political disidents. I like the term reeducation. LOL. | |
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alien9999999
Your Head Looks Nice
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join:2002-05-21
B-3000 | I keep all my cookies, i'd prefer if more sites with logging in features would use cookies... i can't be bothered to know all these passwords in my head...
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Defcon888
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join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA | Re: Hilarious! said by Defcon888 : trusted websites :p | |
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join:2003-09-05
Minneapolis, MN | Hopefuly your idea of "trusted" websites is different then aol's idea of "trusted". | |
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Defcon888
Premium
join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA | Re: Hilarious! I use IE. I manually type in "allowed" addresses (DSLR for example)
 DSLR CAN be trusted right?!
AOHell is retarded. Netscape died for me. | |
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MacGyver
Aug 18 Goodbye Bell
Premium,ExMod 2003-05
join:2001-10-14
Orleans, ON
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| Yum New chocolate chip oatmeal peanut butter cookies with zero trans fat. Eat as many as you want, they're good for you? 
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Happyrat
Google Is Your Best Friend
Premium
join:2002-07-01
Disneyland
·Look Communications
1 edit | Mine expire after 30 days... Long enough that I don't have to relog into every website account more often than once a month, but not so that the little buggers accumulate on my computer like barnacles on a ship's hull. Frankly I'm not THAT concerned about where I surf, but I still don't need a file with doubleclick that extends back to the jurassic period
Oh yeah, and I also don't accept third party cookies at all.
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
Premium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs:
| Marketing Morons, Inc. Laughable. Cookies are good for you the way polyunsaturated fat, cholesterol, nicotine and alcohol are. Somebody better tell these fools that train has already left the station and it ain't coming back. Even clueless n00bs know better than to trust cookies no matter how much propaganda gets pumped out by the sludge dispenser marketing execs.
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Anonymous
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join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs: | bull there just saying this so they can track us | |
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ
1 edit | All.... ...your cookies belong to us. | |
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| GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA | Re: Marketers: BITE MY SHINY METAL... "Its not so shiny!" | |
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Rubicon
Premium
join:2001-02-20
Philly | and so are Javascripts :) Java and COokies. mmmmm
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javaMan
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-15
San Luis Obispo, CA
| Some people just don't get it. More than anything else it's the attitude of people like Mookie Tanenbaum and his PIE concept who make the case for those who don't trust cookies. They just don't get it. You do not have the right to place something on my computer that I cannot remove if I make the decision to do so.
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Viper007Bond
Premium
join:2002-09-26
Portland, OR | They're right Sorry, but they're right. Cookies are good. I especially like chocolate chip ones. | |
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biff420
Premium
join:2002-01-26
Richmond, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| The only good cookie, is a deleted cookie These marketers don't seem to understand that
people DON'T like being marketed to in the first
place.
You'd think they'd get the hint now that major ISP's
marketing  is showing how evil popups are, and that
they block them better than brand X.
The longer a computer user has his rig, the more control
he will exert over it, and begin to delete more cookies,
spyware, etc.
As he begins to peruse BBR, he's going to see HOSTS file,
and see how it blocks ads.
I always instruct users to use HOSTS files, and other ad/spyware blocking software.
These marketers have hurt themselves by insisting on spending obscene amounts of money to create ads we block.
So a new battle line is being drawn with "cookies are your
friends". LOL! Good luck! | |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| Re: The only good cookie, is a deleted cookie Actually, I don't mind being marketed to so long as it's not annoying. I also don't mind cookies (of the non 3rd party kind) so long as they serve a useful function on the site. (For example, keeping me logged into BBR.) I also don't mind JavaScript as it can take a useful site (say, Google) and make it much more useful (for example, Google Suggest). And, yes, even Flash can be nice.
That said, everything I mentioned above can be misused, overused, and mishandled. Marketing can turn into pop-up/under/in ads. Cookies can turn into silent tracers designed to help a marketing firm learn everything about you. JavaScript can make those annoying mouse trails that follow the cursor on badly designed websites. And Flash can be used to make a one page informational site into a "multimedia extravaganza" that hides the real content.
That's why I have Maxthon set to block pop-up/under ads, but I let normal ads through. I allow cookies on a site by site basis. (Although a site might be white or black listed depending on whether they annoy me or prove to me that their cookies are essential.) I allow JavaScript, but stand at the ready to have Maxthon deny it from running. Lastly, I deny Flash (as well as all ActiveX) from running but am ready to let it run on a case by case basis.
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gukid
join:2005-05-17 | Honstely, I do the same thing with web cookies that I do with real cookies, get rid of them before they go bad. | |
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Damon85
Premium
join:2004-12-25
Louisville, KY
1 edit | Actually... This is sort of okay, it's just bad people doing it for bad reasons. Being in web development on a big site, we get lots of complaints from people who can't get session-specific features of our site to work because they constantly delete our cookies because spyware scanners paint them as filthy little things that are chewing away at their computer.
Users have been just as misinformed that cookies are viral programs waiting in the dark to chew their computer apart, and that's not true either.
If it takes marketing to give cookies a bit less of a nasty image, then so be it. I doubt it'll work considering where the push is coming from, but I'm sure we will continue to take the blame for broken features when people do things they don't quite understand (as usual and always, of course). | |
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rideboarder
welcome to the social
Premium
join:2003-07-28
Snohomish, WA
clubs:
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mmm cookies |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Re: Actually... I nuked mine recently, I only have 413 right now. | |
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quetwo
That VoIP Guy
Premium
join:2004-09-04
East Lansing, MI
| Thank you.
Cookies are a double edged sword. Yes, they allow marketers to track you, but they also allow web developers to make stateful websites... e.g. so you can login and not have to login after every page visit.
The marketers don't need cookies to track you -- they have other things up their sleeves. Trust me, all you are doing by deleting cookies after every session is making your own life harder. | |
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rideboarder
welcome to the social
Premium
join:2003-07-28
Snohomish, WA
clubs: | Re: Actually... you're right, and that's why i don't even bother deleting them.... | |
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join:2005-06-01
Odenton, MD
| That's why FireFox allows you to specify "session-only" cookies. You get your stateful website - and when you leave, a clean cookie jar.
Right now, I have about 100 "permanent" cookies (for websites that store passwords, etc). The rest are either flat out denied, or if they are required for stateful operation, session cookies. | |
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hpguru
Curb Your Dogma
Premium
join:2002-04-12 | OK! OK! They can have my cookies. After Proxomitron gets finished doctoring them. :D | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·RoadRunner Cable
·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: OK! OK! said by hpguru :They can have my cookies. After Proxomitron gets finished doctoring them. :D Tracking cookies? What tracking cookies? Your hosts file
keeps a lot of them from even being written in the first
place (though I use the MVPS one). But a few can still
sneak in through javascript or flash. For those, I also
block javascript in Ad Subtract Pro, which is based on
Proxomitron's code. I still use the 2.55 version as ASP 3
doesn't seem to play too well with Mozilla.
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Varlik
Without Honor You Will Never Be Free
Premium
join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC
2 edits | Cookies are Good for You..... Riiiiiight!  And crap tastes like Chocolate.:p As others have said I only allow cookies from those sites I use and trust on a regular basis. As for the rest well I toss my cookies. Get it? Toss My cookies.
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dualsmp
join:2001-08-25
Charlotte, NC | Eat your cookies... ...and drink your kool-aid
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MagMan
Life is simpler when you tell the truth.
Premium
join:2003-10-01
Westlake, OH |  Bull!!
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rocke86
join:2005-01-22
Groveland, IL
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join:2004-04-11
New Port Richey, FL | Re: yum Many cookies are an invasion of my privacy. Mine are always shredded after the session and RoboForm jumps into action when I need to login.:D | |
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Cookies Are Good for You
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