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@rr.com | Dam Now those are speeds i would jump on in a sec. Not some crappy 8dl / 512up that TimeWarner is offering on there Premium tier. | |
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Denver, CO | Re: Dam These speeds that we see here could just be the beginning of a HSI revolution. I hope. Price remains a consideration. | |
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| said by NXds:
Now those are speeds i would jump on in a sec. Not some crappy 8dl / 512up that TimeWarner is offering on there Premium tier.
Man, when will people be happy? TWC's 8dl is crappy? You were just on a 56k modem just 5 years ago...
I can see it now... I can't wait for that 200dl, because that 150dl is just too crappy.
This is just too funny. | |
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N10Cities
SILENCE I Keel You
join:2002-05-07
Lavaca, AR
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| Re: Dam said by fiberguy  :said by NXds:
Now those are speeds i would jump on in a sec. Not some crappy 8dl / 512up that TimeWarner is offering on there Premium tier.
Man, when will people be happy? TWC's 8dl is crappy? You were just on a 56k modem just 5 years ago... I can see it now... I can't wait for that 200dl, because that 150dl is just too crappy. This is just too funny. Or the "Yea, so you can hit your D/L cap faster!!"  | |
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join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI
| said by fiberguy :said by NXds:
You were just on a 56k modem just 5 years ago...
No I am a geek I was isdn 64k 128k bonded upto 7 years ago. | |
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join:2005-05-09
Harrison Township, MI |  well if it comes to mi comcast wont know that kissed my ass good by | |
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join:2005-05-09
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boohoo1
@68.48.x.x
| Re: Dam the man said it right the 1st time. the increasement of bandwidth ONLY affect the amount of people that is employing the network. The individuals share less resources. the web sites will allocate the bandwidth in the same manner rendering the increase of speed useless.
In relations to up speed one can host a server in the confines of their own home.
People hear speed increase and without knowing the logistics behind it go crazy. For me just give me a product that works | |
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| raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA
| Not much difference here between 8 Mbps and 15 Mbps, unless you have a lot of users in your home or business. As an individual user, there is not much difference at this point, since most download sites are not that fast yet.
2 Mbps vs 512 Kbps (x4 increase) now that is something, if you are doing a lot of uploads or run mail and/or web servers.
I hope this is the start of a trend... | |
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@verizon.n | 16 Megabits eh? Still docsis shared tho. :=)
Hmm, let me know how it is during peak hours? Whats the lowest it goes?, Hehehe...Try pumping some uploads @ 2megabits and lets see how fast your DL is then, BouYAH! | |
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gheezer
Compooters R Us
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Henrietta, NY
| Re: Dam All networks are "Shared" access. AFter all, that's what being networked means.
With DSL, access is shared at the CO. What had set DSL apart in the past was that the Big Honking Switch at the Telco CO had lots and lots of capacity. They were designed and engineered to offer direct links to the big massive telco circuits that your government helped to subsidize.
Cable Internet, in it's infancy,(only 10 years ago btw) was built by private investor monies, and took advantage of the infrastructure that carried Television and was already deployed by the MSO into the neighborhoods.
What the Docsis 3.0 technology will do, is bring the same kind of Capacity into the neighborhood that the Telco switch does. Sure it's shared, but we're taking about GigabitEthernet type capicities now, not 5/10/100 Megabit capacity your used to seeing in older Docsis 1.0 CMTS'.
Docsis3.0 will mitigate that long standing shortcoming in the technology that had Cable haters and DSL lovers screaming about "shared access sucks", when all the time, they themselves rode shared access at the telco CO, but never noticed it because of the great capacity of Telco switches.
I suggest you read the white paper on the technology:
»broadband.motorola.com/ips/pdf/S···idth.pdf
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Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| But will they get it Are they going to work with customers who suffer bad signals and cannot get full speeds?
Thing here is that if there's any signal problems then the modem will constantly be trying to readjust to the fullest speed. And if they're trying to do fast downloads they will see more packet loss which results in more retransmits..
I'm so glad my FIOS does not suffer from this. | |
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Re: But will they get it said by NOCMan :Are they going to work with customers who suffer bad signals and cannot get full speeds? Thing here is that if there's any signal problems then the modem will constantly be trying to readjust to the fullest speed. And if they're trying to do fast downloads they will see more packet loss which results in more retransmits.. I'm so glad my FIOS does not suffer from this. Talk about jumping to conclusions.
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cjynx
Whatchu Talkin' Bout
join:2003-01-13
Pittsburgh, PA
| The answer is right in the ad.
"Extreme is Adelphia's newest level of High-Speed Internet service, with jaw-dropping fast
download speeds of up to 16 Mbps, and upload speeds of up to 2 Mbps (1)."
That little (1) at the end of the sentence points to the "fine print" at the bottom of the screen.
"(1) Adelphia does not guarantee speeds, as the speed of the Adelphia Broadband Service provided to you at
your site will vary depending upon your computer and associated equipment, internet traffic and associated
equipment, and other factors."
I think it would be nice to have those speeds unlocked and the possibility of reaching them. BUT, it will just lead to complaints of "I'm paying for 16/2 and all I get on the speedtest is 12/1.5" When they should be happy to be getting the 12/1.5 in the first place. | |
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: But will they get it said by cjynx :The answer is right in the ad. "(1) Adelphia does not guarantee speeds, as the speed of the Adelphia Broadband Service provided to you at your site will vary depending upon your computer and associated equipment, internet traffic and associated equipment, and other factors." cjynx, glad you posted this... But, let's not also forget, for the FIOS worshippers out there...
How Fast/How Much?
Up to 5Mbps/2Mbps *
Up to 15Mbps/2Mbps *
Up to 30Mbps/5Mbps *
* Actual (throughput) speeds WILL vary.
(source, verizonfios.com)
So, Fios people, please take note.. not every internet service is without possible slowdowns. | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Re: But will they get it I'm not talking about internet speeds here.
I'm talking speed from the CMTS to the Modem. I had comcast's 6/768 plan before FIOS came and I rarely could get above 5mbps and cust support said my signal was off and each guy that came out said my signal was fine.
However since switching to FIOS I get 15mbps consistently and it's nice to see
downloading @ 2453kbps instead of 520kbps that's for sure. | |
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| attndefecit
join:2005-04-19
New York, NY
| said by NOCMan :Are they going to work with customers who suffer bad signals and cannot get full speeds? Thing here is that if there's any signal problems then the modem will constantly be trying to readjust to the fullest speed. And if they're trying to do fast downloads they will see more packet loss which results in more retransmits.. I'm so glad my FIOS does not suffer from this. In what NOC do you find yourself employed? Were they mental? | |
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Bill
Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs:
| Well.. They won't be around for much longer, I guess they want to go out with a bang
It's still a bit more than FIOS ($59.99), but not everyone has FIOS available in their neighborhoods.
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| said by Bill :They won't be around for much longer, I guess they want to go out with a bang It's still a bit more than FIOS ( $59.99), but not everyone has FIOS available in their neighborhoods. That's the unbundled price.. Bundle it with other services and save.. Also, it's still 1mb faster than the Fios service.... just in case you didn't read the whole site..now you are more informed. | |
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JacksGhost
Got Bottle?
join:2002-12-29
Buffalo, NY
| "The only thing not extreme about our Extreme level of service is the price. You can get
the jaw-dropping speeds of up to 16 MB up and up to 2 MB down for only $59.95 per
month."
Looks like they did a last minute bait and switch. Maybe I'm reading this wrong, But thats one hell of an upload to have
jAX. | |
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cjynx
Whatchu Talkin' Bout
join:2003-01-13
Pittsburgh, PA | funny Before Adelphia was bought and split, I never saw ads for them. Now that the end is near, they seem to be blowing the rest of the cash they have on advertising. Comcast won't let the 16/2 last. They'll pull the plug the day they take over. | |
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sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
clubs:
| VZ, yes, but Cox? What does Cox have anything to do with Adelphia upping speeds when the two don't compete?  That's like saying BellSouth cut prices because SBC did...
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News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
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PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
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They're very aware of it. Why do think Verizon offered that recent "deal"? To maintain competitive public image. | |
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Woof Woof
I Miss Brother Iz
join:2004-09-01
Keller, TX
| Re: VZ, yes, but Cox? Exactly. It is the perception that someone, anyone else has a faster service that will drive Verizon marketing nuts.
If this becomes a wide spread phenomenon, Vz will play the one-up game and boost speeds even if they don't directly compete.
Competition is good! | |
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL | I'll take the 2mb upload. I'm not too "WOWed" about thr 16mb down. I rather have 2mb up though! Give me 2/2 and I'll be a happy man! | |
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Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
clubs:
1 edit | Re: I'll take the 2mb upload. I don't see a TOS on their Extreme page, but are they going to allow servers to be run on this connection?
If not, 2Mbps upload doesn't serve too many purposes, from a computing aspect.
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Re: I'll take the 2mb upload. said by Bill :I don't see a TOS on their Extreme page, but are they going to allow servers to be run on this connection? If not, 2Mbps upload doesn't serve too many purposes, from a computing aspect. No Servers. And upload really isn't directed just for servers. Now I can easily upload tons of photos, videos, etc that I own to my webspace or to other people.
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Time
Premium
join:2003-07-05
·Embarq
·Cox HSI
| said by Bill :I don't see a TOS on their Extreme page, but are they going to allow servers to be run on this connection? If not, 2Mbps upload doesn't serve too many purposes, from a computing aspect. Why even bother asking a question that you KNOW is going to be a big NO slapped on your forehead?
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gheezer
Compooters R Us
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Henrietta, NY
| Just in case anyones interested.... This is how it's done...
»broadband.motorola.com/ips/pdf/S···idth.pdf
Adelphia has already widely deployed the BSR64000 CMTS chassis in many areas. With little more than a code upgrade, Adelphia could begin marketing the expanded bandwidth Channel Bonding offers.
Who'd-a-thunkit? Adelphia doin this....man, that's irony for ya....
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Smokey
I killed the Wabbit
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | Re: Just in case anyones interested.... Are you suggesting that Adelphia is deploying a DOCSIS 3 upgrade before the standard is even decided on, and modems are deployed in the field?
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gheezer
Compooters R Us
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Henrietta, NY
| Re: Just in case anyones interested.... Who knows, maybe they chose to be the test bed...I mean, they were testing Docsis 2.0 in SoCal and had it deployed while the rest of the Big6 MSO's were still testing Docsis 1.1
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I killed the Wabbit
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
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1 edit | Re: Just in case anyones interested.... But you cant use channel bonding until you have modems that can support it. As far as I know, no one is making 3.0 modems for market yet.
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Compooters R Us
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Henrietta, NY | Re: Just in case anyones interested.... I believe Motorola has one. | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home | If only the BSR64000 was actually a stable platform. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
upstate NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| A little more. FIOS should bury the competition. There is no way cable can provide 20mbps/5mbps on the current technology and still make it profitable. I believe it would be good if they could upgrade to this and still maintain the "god" like image they had before all these other companies joined in.
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| bluecynicalm
join:2000-08-11
San Francisco, CA
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: A little more. said by Tzale :FIOS should bury the competition. -Tzale Unfortunately, there are many of areas where Adelphia and Verizon are a option. Since some of these areas are going to be on the Verizon non priority list for FIOS upgrade (areas that do not strategically offers some form of political influence), Adelphia will be at least offering something comparable in speed. Verizon FIOS (FTTH) will not come close to burying any competition except in the areas they see fit to install it. Plus, by the the time FIOS becomes available here, I will believe the next generation of cable delivery will be implemented (about 5 to 10 years from now). | |
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Evil_Icon
Digital Pimp
join:2003-02-24
Bossier City, LA
·Suddenlink
| Raped I'm tired of getting raped by TWC Premium 8000/512 $69.95 bundled.If they dont plan on upgrading atleast they could lower the premium price.
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knifermcstab
join:2004-03-29
Cleveland, OH | Bankrupt? I thought adelphia went bankrupt. Will they still have those speeds when the other cable companies take over? i hope so. | |
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Light Up The Halo
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-09
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| mglunt
join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA
·Verizon FIOS
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The northern Va area is one of crazy growth. Everywhere you look, new homes and stores are going up. I live about 60 miles south of DC, and work about 30 miles South of DC. In the area where I work, new townhouses are selling for the lower 400's. Just last year, you could get one for $275. My house is up about 55% in value since I bought it just 12 months ago.
...and the area I live and work in isn't close to what things are like in places closer to DC than 30 miles. The closer you get the higher the property values - huge differences. | |
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Romeo
join:2002-02-09
Vancouver, BC | Ug This makes Me Jealous ....I want those Speeds.....I pay shaw for 7000/1000.....someone give me higher speed .
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Asmodeus
join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA | how in the hell...? how in the hell did virginia become the battleground in this war...? virginia is a speck on the technological map... | |
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Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-07
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: how in the hell...? Apparently you have never visited the northern part of VA. It is very affluent and a lot of your politicians and powerful people live there. I am guessing that is why. Also, there is a lot of technology in No. VA. One thing that comes to mind is the ummm....... PENTAGON....
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UnKown
The Underground Network
join:2002-09-08
Orlando, FL | Re: how in the hell...? yes, but we (the military) have our own internet, we are not going to purchase some verizon fios or adelphias new high speed tier to defend and communicate with our troops. | |
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Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-07
Beverly Hills, CA | Re: how in the hell...? Hey who knows No I was just naming some technology there in No. VA. | |
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KrazyDawg
join:2001-02-07
Vallejo, CA
clubs: | Northern VA is basically your Silicon Valley of the East. | |
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join:2004-06-21
Sammamish, WA
| said by Asmodeus :how in the hell did virginia become the battleground in this war...? virginia is a speck on the technological map... lol.... yeah okay. The speck of Northern VA is/was home to one of the orignial major hubs (MAE-East) of the Internet. Most of major players in the Internet are located in Nothern VA. Even Internet-2 has roll in the Washington DC/Baltimore area. | |
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aaron12345
join:2002-12-17
Falls Church, VA
| 16 MBps with fios, if the speed drops below 13.5 Mbps on a reliable sight like meranda, the installer told me they will put in a trouble ticket and come out and fix it, even though they do have the legal disclaimer. Will adelphia and cox be prepared to do that? | |
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| Turbonuim
join:2003-02-14
Los Angeles, CA
| Re: 16 MBps with fios.. since its fiber.. if your not getting within 90+ % of your speeds, then soemthing has gone wrong with the installtion.. there should be no loss or very little loss with fiber lines..
example.. 15m service..actually should be getting within 14-15 megs down..
you will not see a customerS calling in about "my 15m service only getting 10".... unless the fios network is overutilized or an outage is going on of some sort and they have to reshape traffic. | |
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ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA
| Coverage. Why doesn't Adelphia focus on coverage instead of upping the bandwidth? Adelphia stopped running cable ~3 miles from my house, and I highly doubt they will continue running it to me. Speed isn't important when you can't get any service.
It's ridiculous that I'm still on dialup in this so called "HSI revolution". | |
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| Ricsanchz
join:2005-04-21
966 | Re: Coverage. Why is the cable companies going to extend their lines and spend millions of dollars so one guy in a trailer park home can have broad band how about you move your trailer home closer to the office | |
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join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA
| Re: Coverage. Why said I lived in a trailer park home? Who said they had to run cable? Why not run wireless repeaters, like KrazyDawg said?
Moving just to get broadband isn't feesible for a normal person, believe it or not.  | |
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KrazyDawg
join:2001-02-07
Vallejo, CA
clubs:
| Unfortunately, that's the reason why the US is behind in broadband compared to other countries. If they would only install wireless repeaters, towers, etc. in remote areas and areas near major cities you'd have 99% of the population wired for broadband. I agree with you that it's not fair for others to have broadband. | |
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mjlott
join:2004-07-29
Weaverville, CA
| 16Mbps ?? Fios ?? I have to echo what ced06 just expressed. I'm reading this forum, having just finished with the Washington State whiners in another. Everyone on these forums seems to be obsessed with more speed when much of the country can't even get broadband.
I have Verizon phone service here in N.Cal. Recently I asked one of the few Verizon employees still working here in this county about the possibility of Verizon providing dsl. He laughed and said that Verizon will probably never install dsl at our CO. I checked on Verizon dial-up service a couple of years ago-they didn't even have a local access number and they provide phone service for the entire county!
Fortunately, I live in the largest town in the county (pop 3500!). Last October the local cable operator rolled out its broadband offering-a whopping 512kbs down, 128kbs up. Am I whining about my speeds? Hell no! I just spent 8 years with a 42kbs max dial-up connection!:D | |
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join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON | Re: 16Mbps ?? Fios ?? come to canada, eh?
here, the bandwidth flows like maple sirop on hot pancakes.
5/800 is the slowest cable opeartor. dsl is resold my dozens of companies. polar bears ate my diner! | |
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andunn
join:2001-09-06
Linn Creek, MO | Re: 16Mbps ?? Fios ?? God and Charter still hasn't rolled out 5. Charter is so slow!!!! | |
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P8ntball Guy
join:2003-08-10
Buffalo, NY | Re: 16Mbps ?? Fios ?? I care more about latency than speed so I'm still going with Fios if it ever gets here. | |
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@adelphia.net | Canada? Then is that standard or metric speeds?:D | |
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CigaR
Premium
join:2004-08-24 | Re: 16Mbps ?? Fios ?? Hahaha good one  | |
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tbaker397
join:2004-07-19
Berlin, PA | The Takeover..... Time Warner/Comcast shouldn't pull the plug on the speeds since the system cna already handle the speeds so there would be no need to downgrade. | |
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Dr Demento
I Vant Blud
join:2002-01-02
Denville, NJ
|  Less Cynics More Antagonists
It went from we got OOL or WOW, OOL/WOW should be an example onto other ISPs, its a shame OOL/WOW is not in your area.
to...
VERIZON PWNZ U ALL SUKRZ!!!!
It makes me wonder if this is an overal social trend in the world. | |
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jdrtech
join:2004-08-01
Staten Island, NY | Re: Less Cynics More Antagonists Hello...Time Warner Roadrunner...its time to wake up now.....raise your speeds!!! FIOS is comin to town!! | |
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mglunt
join:2001-09-10
Fredericksburg, VA | 6Mbps now the standard speed?
Are they going to have 3 service levels, or offer the 6/768 plan as the standard?
I have been paying for standard since I signed up, but my speeds have been at the premier level for months. | |
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tidal
Tidal
Premium
join:2001-01-18
Madison, AL | Re: 6Mbps now the standard speed? Internet speeds are turning into cpu speeds. The faster it gets the sloppier code gets therefore requiring more speed.
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