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jarablue
Always be true to yourself
join:2001-06-11
Worcester, MA | Re: Verizon Keep smokin that pipe dude. At least Verizon is deploying fiber. Not blowing smoke up peoples ass like sbc and most other companies out there. Good work Verizon. | |
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| Re: Verizon I don't see any inherent contradiction in accepting that Verizon are evil blood sucking bastards and that they are also deploying a very desirable service at a decent price.
Even evil monopolies sometimes have something worth buying.
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Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA
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| Re: Verizon said by B  :I don't see any inherent contradiction in accepting that Verizon are evil blood sucking bastards and that they are also deploying a very desirable service at a decent price. Even evil monopolies sometimes have something worth buying. -- B Devil couldn't get souls if he didn't have something good to trade. 
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join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
1 edit | Re: Verizon The same can be said about God, if he/she even exists. | |
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Mesquite, TX | Re: Verizon maybe so but the end result of what one purportedly receives in exchange for said soul is radically different. | |
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Southfield, MI | Re: Verizon So you believe
See what happens when people make these kind of refferences on this forum. Next we will talk about the pope? | |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
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Wesley Chapel, FL
| said by NPGMBR :The same can be said about God, if he/she even exists. And so is the conflict of good vs evil?
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| NPGMBR, did those words come out of your mouth? ...how stupid!
Passive skepticism is a waste of time.
Speed sells.... vroooooooom! | |
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join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA | Hmmm...which company is REALLY the "evil blood sucking bastards", the incumbent CATV co. suing for their turf or the incumbent telco ??
As for the monopoly that you speak of...there isn't one !!
Or this whole FIGHT wouldn't exist !! | |
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Love it, Hate it.
join:2003-07-10
Baltimore, MD
·Comcast
| Re: Verizon said by ashworth :Hmmm...which company is REALLY the "evil blood sucking bastards", the incumbent CATV co. suing for their turf or the incumbent telco ?? As for the monopoly that you speak of...there isn't one !! Or this whole FIGHT wouldn't exist !! Fight? Wait until they start to challenge comcast then we will see a real fight :P
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join:2000-10-28
1 edit | Dude, they're BOTH monopolies. They've just had different turfs until recently.
You see any Joe's Broadband wires strung from those poles? Can you get a T-1 or DSL line or POTS line where Verizon/yourILEC is NOT the last mile carrier? Can you get cable TV service from anyone else? This is not complicated.
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY | Oh, as opposed to the cablevision monopoly? I hate smacktards. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Re: Verizon
Yes, of course they're BOTH monopolies, you idiot. And they both have attractive high-speed Internet offerings. Crawl back under the rock with Patrick.
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packetscan
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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | at what cost to the tax payer?
We are going to pay for this a few times a month..
Don't kid yourself..
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace | Re: Verizon Um... Verizon is spending its own money to deploy FIOS. Where are you getting this information from that the tax payers are paying for it? | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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1 edit | Re: Verizon said by LinuxJunkie :Um... Verizon is spending its own money to deploy FIOS. Where are you getting this information from that the tax payers are paying for it? Tell that to the residents of Pennsylvania from whom Verizon stole over $2 billion for supposed fiber deployment that never materialized.
»Picture Perfect Deal
»Pennsylvania Gets Some Fiber
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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Sweden
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| Re: Verizon said by oliphant :said by LinuxJunkie :Um... Verizon is spending its own money to deploy FIOS. Where are you getting this information from that the tax payers are paying for it? Tell that to the residents of Pennsylvania from whom Verizon stole over $2 billion for supposed fiber deployment that never materialized. » Picture Perfect Deal» Pennsylvania Gets Some Fiber I'm a resident of New Jersey. I could care less what the people in PA fell for. All I know is that Verizon is installing fiber all around my area and I'm happy. Of course there will be fools on here who say that Verizon is wrong to install fiber and then there are people who yell about how Verizon isn't installing fiber fast enough.
I'm laughing and I'm sure the execs at Verizon are too because we know damn well the average consumer will buy this AWESOME deal! 15/2 for $45-50/month is excellent compared to what Americans have as an option today for Broadband.
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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Corona, CA | Re: Verizon The question wasn't whether or not $45 for 15Mb was a good deal.
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
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Fort Worth, TX | Re: Verizon Spare us the endless litany of Pa resident's whining about Verizon.  | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
4 edits | Re: Verizon Why, so we may all indulge in the daily proFIOS circle-jerk?
If you want to avoid discussion of Verizon and its sordid past, perhaps you should skip the news item. If you want to kiss the ass of Verizon, there is a forum in which to do so... »Rants, Raves, and Praise
But so long as the public funding question is asked, expect it to be answered.
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
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Fort Worth, TX
| Re: Verizon I'm not kissing anyone's ass and I don't a rat's ass about Verizon. I'm just tired of seeing the whining of Pa resident's every time someone mentions FIOS and Verizon in the same post. If you got robbed, it wasn't strictly due to Verizon, some of your "Public Servants" (an oxymoron) had to have a hand in it (pun intended) somewhere. Have you gotten rid of those of your idiots who helped rob you?
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
2 edits | Re: Verizon I'm sorry...do I look like a PA resident?
Just because the teller holds the door open for the robber doesn't get the robber off the hook. Verizon should return the money and the politicians strung up on trees for being stupid enough to enter into an agreement with a company like Verzion.
While we all are smiles over Verizon's deployment it shouldn't be seen as Verizon's greatness that led to it. They've been promising and taking taxpayer money for 10 years to just now be getting around to it.
IOW, Verizon doesn't deserve in any way shape or form the universal praise they seem to receive here for their FIOS deployment.
I as a California Resident with a business in an area seeing FIOS deployment say it's about f*cking time considering the billions upon billions they received from Joe Taxpayer. And just because it wasn't me getting ripped off doens't change the fact that PA residents got screwed and it sucks.
If you have a painter and you've been paying the guy to paint your house and have been waiting 10 years for it to get started and now that it's finally started you going to heap endless praise the guy saying, "Wow the house looks great?"
Hell no you're going to say "About F-ing time Jackson!"
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Premium,MVM
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1 edit | Re: Verizon You know, in a version or two Windows won't crash all the time.
Edit: Yes, hyperbole. Or, if you prefer, »IE7 being developed to resist spyware
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | Re: Verizon Doesn't now. | |
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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Grove City, PA
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1 edit | said by oliphant :I'm sorry...do I look like a PA resident? Just because the teller holds the door open for the robber doesn't get the robber off the hook. Verizon should return the money and the politicians strung up on trees for being stupid enough to enter into an agreement with a company like Verzion. While we all are smiles over Verizon's deployment it shouldn't be seen as Verizon's greatness that led to it. They've been promising and taking taxpayer money for 10 years to just now be getting around to it. IOW, Verizon doesn't deserve in any way shape or form the universal praise they seem to receive here for their FIOS deployment. I as a California Resident with a business in an area seeing FIOS deployment say it's about f*cking time considering the billions upon billions they received from Joe Taxpayer. And just because it wasn't me getting ripped off doens't change the fact that PA residents got screwed and it sucks. If you have a painter and you've been paying the guy to paint your house and have been waiting 10 years for it to get started and now that it's finally started you going to heap endless praise the guy saying, "Wow the house looks great?" Hell no you're going to say "About F-ing time Jackson!" thanks for giving credit;)
enjoy the fios for those that can get it! we sure aint seeing it around my area thats for sure
last time i saw the phone bill i think it was $10-15 in just "taxes" too
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Orlando, FL | Re: Verizon about time cablevision got some competition. might finally be the beginning of the end of extremely high prices on Long Island for cable and broadband cable. too bad i'll be moving before i could see it happen before my own eyes. | |
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LeftOfSanity
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| Re: Verizon I thought my post made that clear when I said
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Not that registered users aren't occasionally void of thought, but it seems more often than not that anonymous posters roll in here simply to troll.
BTW the sign up takes all of 20 seconds.
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| As the saying goes, "Sucks to be you, Bob!"
You need to find your "happy place". I'm in mine. Later...(btw: if you're on dialup or cable or dsl, eat my dust, speed sells). | |
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Tomek
Premium
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Brooklyn, NY
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| Why Verizon is bad? So far they offered much more "services" and benefits than cable. They actually stood tall against in the first wave of RIAA assaults.
They also provide highly competitive service, cheaper and constantly improving.
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eagleville, PA
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| Re: Why Verizon is bad? They sabotaged Earthlink when it tried to provide me with DSL service over their lines. As soon as I switched (email and newsgroups issues) from Verizon DSL to Earthlink DSL it stopped working. Earthlink was helpless as they lease the lines and the DSLAM from Verizon, and Verizon "tech-support" failed to fix it after 8 months of battles with them. Finally, Cablevision offered OOL and I saw the light. | |
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
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| Just in time... I had Fios installed on 5/17, and dumped my Optimum Online service a week later after 5 years of service.
With all sorts of problems (capping, speeds halved, etc.) happeing in 2005, Fios could not have come at a better time.
Without getting into the specifics of it, the Fios connection is better than my Optimum Online connection in every way. Website stalls, slow page loading, etc. are all a thing of the past.
Lots of rumors about CV this year; sales to Time Warner among the largest unconfirmed one. And from what I can see since I've been a member (Dec 1999 to May 2005), a possible over-selling of their service.
It's nice to see Netpersec give me a true 15/2.
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join:2002-05-18
Miami, FL
| Competition rocks. I don't understand the Optimum Online bashing. Be glad you're not stuck with Time Warner. When I lived in south Brooklyn I had OOL, I loved it. I fought for it. Then I moved to Bay Ridge and had to get Road Runner. I could have gotten DSL too, in fact I only live 150 feet from the CO, but I need cable's speed.
Well we finally got 5mb/s downloads...and that is still half the speed of OOL. But I pay the same 60 dollars a month for Time warner that I did for cablevision (I don't get TV service)
If verizon rolled out FIOS tomorrow, I would throw my cablemodem out the window tomorrow.
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Born And Raised
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Decompiled
@sacoriver.net | Fios! They can charge me $200 bucks a month for Fios service and I'll pay it.
I want phone/data/tv all on one bill. Especially if it is a higher service then my 8/1mbps GWI DSL service. | |
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| Re: Fios! Maybe cablevision can squeeze (SUE) some more money out of people who they -think- are stealing their service, thats one tactic thats gotten them alot of money in the past.. but with all the rate increases, now poor service on cablemodems (the revnue builder that saved the company from going down the tubes) It looking bleaker and bleaker for the cable company. I've seen lots of dish network intalls and verizon fios installs gaining steam in some of the fist areas deployed in NY, (massapequa, syosset, port washington, seaford, wantagh, etc)
Cablevision can't win this or any other battle it wages now, even though the west side stadium won't be built, alternate sites WILL! NY must develop COMPETITIVE infrastructure or its demise is certain, no more subsidizing cableivison's money makers! All the demons and bad will this company has built up over the decades will come back to hanunt them until they finally sell out of the NY marketplace! PERIOD! | |
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Aggie Dan
Stop... Reverse That.
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clubs: | $200/month? That's the 30M/5M package. | |
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Rob A
Same Old Jets
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| Can't wait I can't wait to see cablevision finally start to fall. All their stupid commercials with "fastest internet access for the home" and "pc magazine #1" crap. They will finally diminish. Do it Verizon!:D
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Astoria, NY | Re: Can't wait I agree with that lol,not only is the commercial annoying and false now,but they also show it in areas where its unavailable | |
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
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clubs: | Does that PC Magazine article have a date on it? Cablevision could have made that claim up until relatively recently, but it's false now (in terms of the speed). | |
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WileEC
mindtaker, macky cat, etc.
join:2002-02-07
Yonkers, NY | Amen to that! I have FIOS now and I can't wait for Verizon TV! Then I can and will say "bye bye" to cablevision! | |
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lgkahn
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Londonderry, NH
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| go verizon I have liked my verizon service with 3/768 business dsl.. the alternative is adelphia here for more money.. and they only finally offered me a bus. acct after
i already got verizon dsl and they wouldn't offer me more than 5 ips..
they have announced that they are doing fios in my town so hopefully by end ofyear I can upgrade to it... probably be the same price becuase i can then get rid of my stupid extra phone line on the dsl acct that i don't use..
only issue is how will it work ... myphone is current resid. because it is a house.. but i got a bus. dsl acct because I wanted the static ips and run servers at home...
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join:2005-04-12 | Re: go verizon I think they bundle the phone with the highspeed service... i am sure they have something that will fit your needs... just be sure they dont cut ur copper wires from the house unless absolutely necessary. | |
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AgainAfarce
@comcast.net | Weiners! And they're not doing anything for the folks without any broadband. It looks like they only want to be competitive in cable dominated areas...And the hell with the rest! Like DSL,FIOS will only get deployed to 20% of Verizon's customers. | |
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NoOneButMe
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TX | As Washington State waits tell next year ......... to even see fiber lit to the home in exGTE parts ... | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: As Washington State waits tell next year ..... plus pelase dont forget that fiber gives you way better latency and no more last mile bottlenecks. | |
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OnTheNet
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Broadview Heights, OH | Collateral Damage What about the collateral damage to other industries, e.g., alarm companies, utilities... who rely on the copper Verizon is cutting when they install FIOS?
Is this not a violation of a telecom rule about eliminating a service and other rules? | |
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@sacoriver.net | Re: Collateral Damage I feel bad for people who suffer when technology changes. But that doesn't mean we should stop technical evolution. They should have forsight enough to adapt to this change. Otherwise they are causing themselves the headache. | |
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| Re: Collateral Damage said by Decompiled:
They should have forsight enough to adapt to this change. Otherwise they are causing themselves the headache.
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Verizon Exec on Fios: 'Speed Sells'
