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Save Me Konata-Chan
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| Re: aww dang it Serves them right for hiking the price to an unbelieveable price! (250$) Now game developers will pay the price, all sorts of external media devices can 'feed' the unit the data off read from its read-only drives.. in my opinon, they purposefully left this back-door open because they knew this would happen anyway. The only difference is that they didn't use mini-cdr or dvdrs they used a proprietary media format to mirror the mini-disc audio players of the 1990s except, read-only. Problem is, they product won't have a wide enough consumer base to care too much so, emulators will come out-- so people can see what all the hype is about.
Jeez maybe they'll lower the price to $199 for black friday, christmas to boost sales, ya think!  | |
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rorrim180
The Original Captain Chaos
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: aww dang it said by rorrim180  :Why doesn't someone hack this thing and add WPA support? Oh wait, Sony should have done that from the start... I agree, this is the only reason I have to keep running an extra software home, sniffing on my own network: since my PSP doesn't support WPA, I stucked with 128-bit WEP on my wife's laptop which encryption doesn't really worth too much, hence the sniffer always on.  | |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
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|  They should just give up
Silly Sony, Trix are for kids.
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C0deZer0
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Davenport, FL | Re: They should just give up Agreed wholeheartedly.
Seriously, where the @#$% do they get off charging up to $50 for a handheld game?  | |
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biggbrother
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Providence, RI | Re: They should just give up I thought I was the only one who thought $49.99 for game for a handheld system was steep. I think the best pricepoint is $29.99. | |
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biggbrother
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bklynite
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Brooklyn, NY
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| said by C0deZer0 :Agreed wholeheartedly. Seriously, where the @#$% do they get off charging up to $50 for a handheld game? It's their product. They charge whatever the hell they want and if you don't like it, too bad.
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| Re: They should just give up
And it's exactly this attitude that lost the VHS/BETA war for sony. Sony has allways been over priced and used proprietary formats. It used to be all right because Sony was quality electronics, but not so now.
Bottom line: If you dont like the price, dont buy it. Simple economics. If it isn't selling, changes will be made. It happens time and time again.
But then, gamers just gotta have the latest "bleeding edge" toy. Suckers. | |
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Providence, RI | Re: They should just give up I'm gonna go out on a limb here.. but I'm gonna bet your a Nintendo fan... | |
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insomx
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| Re: They should just give up said by biggbrother :I'm gonna go out on a limb here.. but I'm gonna bet your a Nintendo fan... I used to, but I don't like consoles. I would rather play on the PC. Games are free, they run smoother, more selection, and cheaper in the long run even if you did pay for games.
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| Re: They should just give up said by insomx :said by biggbrother :I'm gonna go out on a limb here.. but I'm gonna bet your a Nintendo fan... I used to, but I don't like consoles. I would rather play on the PC. Games are free, they run smoother, more selection, and cheaper in the long run even if you did pay for games. what games are free?
if your talking about warez you still need to buy the media for it .
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Encino, CA
| Re: They should just give up *runs you over with his free GTA2 car*
There's plenty of free game software out there. Enemy Territory and America's Army comes to mind...along with, well...what's it called again...
Grand Theft...erm...Ammo? Sheet...
Legit and free downloads boyo! | |
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Canada
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| Yes, "warez" No you don't need any media. Every hear of a virtual drive? Ya, thats right, a program can mount a .iso as a CD drive, without even having one. It has higher access times then even a real CD can produce, since it is still on your HDD.
Alchool 120% and Daemon tools are both legal programs it can be done with.
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bklynite
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Brooklyn, NY
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Bottom line: If you dont like the price, dont buy it. Simple economics. If it isn't selling, changes will be made. It happens time and time again. Exactly my point! Vote with your dollar, not with your mouth.
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C0deZer0
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Davenport, FL
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| Re: They should just give up Hence why I am electing *not* to purchase a PSP at all.
The only foreseeable time I'd change my mind is after:•Sony stops being such a d**k and starts making their systems without dead pixels•Price for games/media & hardware comes down significantly•The price of a 1GB memory stick pro duo comes down enough.
The PSP would be an awesome choice for a mobile SNES emulator, since its form factor is pretty much ready to go for that. Load up Snes9x and about 400 roms and you'll be good to go. 
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As heard on 101.5 Jamz
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join:2003-12-29
Tempe, AZ
| Re: They should just give up Actually not so much any more... and that is a very different kind of Beta anyway. Their format is called BetaCam, which doesn't even use the same kind of tape as a Beta VCR. The home format Beta was only slightly better quality VHS, and waaay overpriced. Not to say BetaCam wasn't more expensive than it needed to be also.
Even BetaCam can't compete with the new requirements of digital and HD TV. | |
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join:2005-06-13
Surrey, BC
| Ya Sony can charge whatever they like, but it doesn't make it right. Sony has never been known to be a philanthropic organization when it came to product pricing anyway.
Monster cable is another example of a company that always charges the *absolute* maximum that the market will bare.
Both companies have very good products but I'm not for getting gouged ty. | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | The games could be $1 and people would still steal them. For some, any price is not a 'competitive' price.
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
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join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL
| Re: They should just give up said by oliphant :The games could be $1 and people would still steal them. For some, any price is not a 'competitive' price. Yeah maybe, but I don't like to download music I really like because the production sucks. You get crappy sounding MP3s or they are cut short and as an album listener you may never get the whole album. I also appreciate cover art and liner notes etc.
IMHO you d/l music and you get what you pay for.
The PSP is a neat portable device. Why would I want to emulate the games on my desktop or even laptop when I can get it resonably for the PSP?
You want to control piracy? Stop gouging Joe Public.
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insomx
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Canada
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| Re: They should just give up You only get shitty songs if you are a newb. If you know where to go, which isn't that hard, you can have a full high-quality album. CDs are obselate anyways. Get them as mp3 and put them on your player. Better yet, DVD.
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koolman2
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Anchorage, AK
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| Re: They should just give up MP3 is also obsolete, along with DVD. Hell, I bet everything in your house is considered obsolete.
»dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obsolete , second definition.
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| Re: They should just give up Computers already have HDDs. Internet is cheaper than games. Plus, games can play online with consoles too 
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49 States And Texas
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
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join:2001-02-20
Charlestown, MA
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| ... I dunno why first off places like tomshardware etc dont get the story right, then dont give credit where credits due!
Second off, this will have little effect on piracy, as sonys PSP games still cant be played, even on the 1.0 psp systems. This will only let people play emulators and homebrew on there psps
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| How to distribute cracked games... With virtually every other system, the basic media is something easily available like Gamecubes mini-DVDs. How would pirated games be distributed? On 1GB+ memory sticks?
As for the price point for the games, yeah their pricy compared to handhelds like Nintendo DS, but come on...other handhelds games look like ass while PSP is on par with PS2 titles. Plus who didn't know what the games cost when they buy a PSP?
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join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY
| Re: How to distribute cracked games... I'm sorry but good looking games != fun to play. I would pay for games if they were entertaining but many games for the PSP don't seem to be that great for portable systems. Maybe it's just me but saying a game is worth $50 because it looks good is a slap in the face. | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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yazdzik
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join:2000-07-26
Honesdale, PA
·New York Connect
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| drmwise but pound foolish Dear Friends,
Speaking as a parent, I am appalled at the shoddy engineering that creates the interoperability chaos we now enjoy.
Sony are not very bright if they cannot observe the collapse of GM. When engineers ran the US auto industry we ruled. Now, how many kids can even tell a Chevy from a Ford, or for that matter, a Camry?
Competent software development ought to include portability. We would surely buy far more games if each bit of software were not limited to one form of playback. Sony would do well to market R/W disks, and a USB or Firewire connect to a writing device. No one wants the player itself to grow to the girth of a laptop, but for a hundred dollars a disk writer would begin to address the use issue.
There is no reason why, for argument's sake, I cannot borrow Gretzky hockey for my lappy, while Max plays Midnight Racer MCCLII or whatever the series is up to on his psp. We would need a library twice the size of the debian repositories to play the games we own on all the sundry players we have purchased over the years.
Hardware is supposed to be hardware, and competent hardware ought to be OS platform independent as much as possible. It is not the developers at ATI who do not feel they cannot produce equally good linux drivers at the same release point as the window's.
"Sorry, sir, the Camry operates only on interstates. To run to the corner store, or drive in NYC you need a Triburon," would spell pretty much the death of Toyota.
Let the hackers write games, sell them, and the hardware producers strive to create intelligent options for the use of the games, and we would all be better off. I would, as would most parents, purchase a lot more software if it were cross-platform and cross-hardware portable.
Max's psp is a really good, if hideously dear, player. It fails as hardware because accountants rather than engineers run Sony.
All good wishes,
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| What you fail to realize is that not one single company makes all the computers.
When the first Atari 2600 system came out, only Atari made games for it. Later, they licensed out the ability to make games for it and it lasted longer than Mattel's Intellivision and Coleco's Colecovision (which both had Atari hardware emulators.)
Now, a little later, Texas Instruments brought out their TI-99A home computer. Their rules were that any game made was under their name ONLY. The result was very few games made for it compared to Atari and Commodore systems. Look how TI did.
Fact is, I seriously doubt that one system or standard could make everyone happy. If everyone had laptops, some would say it was too big. If everyone had a desktop, some would complain about the lack of portability.
Every system and game console has their pro's and con's. They are made for a specific purpose and tailored to that purpose. This is nothing new at all. | |
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Honesdale, PA
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| Thank you, moon, for pointing that out. I did not realise that this is expected. It struck me, after buy the device, that it would be more efficient to have game players rather like other computers, whereby the hardware served as many needs as technically feasible. Knowing the history, the rather counter-intuitive state of affairs makes sense.
Apparently games are not software in the same sense as an e-mail client or word processor from the business model.
Regards,
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join:2004-05-09
Olar, SC
| Toms is BS I cant believe they post crap like this:
If the video is indeed accurate, a small but devoted group of system crackers may be one step closer to their goal of devising an underground distribution system for cracked games.
Where did this information come from. I have been reading up on this for a while now, and nowhere do these "crackers" state their purpose is to run cracked games. They have created an app that allows a user to run homebrew applications. So where does Toms get off saying their goal is "devising an underground distribution system for cracked games". Poor, inaccurate reporting. Why does BBR use this as a source. There are a ton of places they could have gotten more accurate information to report this news. | |
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Volitar Prime
join:2002-03-08
Warren, MI
| Re: Toms is BS Aren't the various P2P networks already the "underground distribution system for cracked games"? What do the people who are cracking the BIOS have to do with distribution?
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| Because that is what they are intending to do. Don't be so blind. I have a PSP and stay glued to the PSP forums and PSP mod sites to see what they will do since it was released in Japan, and yes they intend to crack the games for so everyone can download. They have said it themselves that is ONE of the goals. A fact is a fact no matter how you guys try to put a spin on it. Obviously some of you are seriously out of touch with the PSP underground. They have already ripped games and have gotten them partially running (with errors) on a memory stick. I can say the damn games are way to expensive and the movies are worse. Stop bashing TOMS, they are reporting it like it is. | |
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Neil
Stop All The Downloadin
join:2003-08-20
New York, NY | Re: Toms is BS Wow, you read the forums? And own a PSP? How amazing. I respect you. | |
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AT1
join:2003-03-05
Sedalia, MO
|  Still too Pricey
I remember a number of years ago calling on computer clients. They spent $1000.00 (more or less) on a computer and had just a few titles for the kids. I'd ask why? Too expensive to buy games. BTW: Can you get me a copy of MS Office?
Same thing is happening to GM. Pricing themselves out of the market. Cheap truck $30,000. Tax @ 8% $2400.00. Payments at $600.00 .... forever. News said that each new GM vehicle had $1500.00 in employee health costs included in the price and now GM is hemorrhaging and is forced to sell at below wholesale (employee price).
I'd like to buy a new one but I don't need a truck with satellite anything. Just make me a quality work truck and get the price affordable! I want to be able to haul a load of gravel not show off at the local hamburger drive in! | |
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rob_in_chatt
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Chattanooga, TN
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1 edit | P$P H4x0r1ng well it would seem that no matter what steps that get taken to avoid this problem (psp hacking) there is always going to be the little rich kid down the street that has a computer nerd buddy that will disect these new gadgets down to the solder to see what makes them tick. sit and think about it. music downlaoding, software pirating blah blah blah and i dont remember this much of a fuss over the iso's that are freely available for the original playstations either. you can goto IRC right now and dload as many as you want. the attention this is getting is being fueled by it being the new hot commodity. like firefox. no one knew it existed till it was released then all the flaws and problems started showing up. i say o well, we do not live in 1985 anymore. | |
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The One
join:2003-08-13
Toronto | Don't know it's a good or bad news....!? Don't know it's a good or bad news....!? | |
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@rr.com
| PSP Im Supporting These Hacks on the PSP probably Because the fact of loading a Nes or SNES emu on psp and running it wihtout having to be hooked to the pc this is why i bought PSP i knew they would find a exploit and Make HomeBrews GO PSP-DEV~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN
| Memory stick I will laugh so hard at Sony when somebody creates a dongle that allows a non proprietary format like SD to be used in a MS slot.
If such a thing became widespread you would never see those expensive useless MS sticks again.
Why create a format and then refuse to license it?? Oh yeah, to create a family of overpriced non-standard devices. Nice trick Sony.
I can't believe that Sony still seems to believe that making their own standards can be a smart idea. atrac betamax mididisc umd etc. ALL of them have or will soon be largely forgotten. | |
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join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: Memory stick said by Fluker :I will laugh so hard at Sony when somebody creates a dongle that allows a non proprietary format like SD to be used in a MS slot. If such a thing became widespread you would never see those expensive useless MS sticks again. Why create a format and then refuse to license it?? Oh yeah, to create a family of overpriced non-standard devices. Nice trick Sony. I can't believe that Sony still seems to believe that making their own standards can be a smart idea. atrac betamax mididisc umd etc. ALL of them have or will soon be largely forgotten. My new 1 gig memcard is finally on its way, shipped yesterday - after two and a half month waiting. It seems PSP completely sucked this out from the market, creating total vacuum... | |
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join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY
| Re: Memory stick Same with me. My 1gb card shipped yesterday 4 months after I ordered it. I'll be getting it just in time for the 1.5 crack to be released. Can't wait to play some SNES games. | |
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Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
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