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According to Intel
(old news - 10:40AM Tuesday Jun 07 2005)
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Intel's yearly report on the top wireless cities is out, and Seattle tops the list. Also in the top five: San Francisco, Austin, Portland, and Toledo. Digging into the full list finds towns like Allentown, PA, Warren, Ohio, and Bakersfield California at the bottom of the stack.

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DaMaGeINC
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My city is wireless

I live very close to Greenville Sc. It has wireless all though downtown... But I bet they dident rank on that list.

wyked
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Re: My city is wireless

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile:

I live very close to Greenville Sc. It has wireless all though downtown... But I bet they dident rank on that list.
Actually Greenville, SC is #81 on the list

81. Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson, S.C. ....
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DaMaGeINC
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Re: My city is wireless

lol

Tomek
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How they checked it?

Did they just drove around the city with netstumbler and reported open (ie unsecured or public) APs?
Then I would rank NYC pretty high.
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Kfedka
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Spokane, WA

Re: How they checked it?

There are programs that can be used that creat fake access points. Maybe seattle has lots of those fake access points in business for security reasons.

aztecnology
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said by Tomek See Profile:

Did they just drove around the city with netstumbler and reported open (ie unsecured or public) APs?
Then I would rank NYC pretty high.

About the Survey
"Survey findings for the 2005 “Most Unwired Cities” are based on the number of commercial and public or “free” wireless access points (hotspots), airports with wireless access, and broadband availability. The survey also included community wireless access points, local wireless networks and wireless e-mail devices. The metro areas included in the survey were the 100 largest in the United States and based on the definitions of Metropolitan Statistical Areas from the U.S. Census Bureau. The data was also calculated at the per-capita level to determine how many people share hotspots within a given city or region. Data was collected from a variety of industry sources between Jan. 1 and April 15, 2005 and weighted across a 100-point scale to allow comparison between categories".

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Seattle

Is it really any wonder that Seattle tops the list? Think of all the coffee shops in that city.

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June 7th, @11:19AM

Dayton, Ohio Only Number 70?

I recently participated in the Downtown Dayton Wireless Days, and you can walk around downtown Dayton and get free wireless access almost anywhere. Pretty soon, that will be extended to the neighborhoods, too. I do mean free. Just click through an initial acknowledgement, and you don't have to give any personal information whatsoever - not even your name.

This has been done at NO cost to the taxpayers, and that should have been mentioned in that study. There are also the normal commercial access points as well.
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dslwanter
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Warren, OH?

I live 25 minutes from Warren. I have never seen, or heard anything about WI-FI being big there. Makes no sense to me. Only things, as just about everywhere now, I see for wireless up there is in hotels.
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Vchat20
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Warren, OH

Re: Warren, OH?

i live in warren but unfortunately i dont have a laptop or even a wifi card for that matter to do any wardriving. but if you ever stroll down ohio ave., i have a nice open ap waiting for you

dslwanter
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There was just something on the news tonight about how the Youngstown area is one of the lowest. Hmmmm, I go 20 minutes to the north and all of the sudden it's one of the best.
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Jason Levine
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Albany, NY

Albany is #46!

Wow, Albany is number 46 on the list. Then again, yesterday as I pulled into my driveway I could have connected to 4 unsecured wireless networks had I wanted to. (As opposed to connecting to my secured wireless network.)
ASG9

join:2003-03-22
Big Easy

smoke and mirrors

See the quote in link below from Verge Wireless exec Carlos MacDonald on how Baton Rouge, Louisiana "managed" to break the top 20 rankings.

»www.2theadvocate.com/stories/060···01.shtml

DaDogs
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Deltaville, VA

Always Wondered Why El Paso

Was #75 on such a list. You can get LOS to the rooftop to four million people from the mountains in El Paso.

»www.terraserver-usa.com/image.as···%7cTx%7c

Used to do a little listening in that area. Would love to install 5.8 GHz Motorola in that terrain.


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RyanG1
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SeattleWireless

is it a wonder that seattle is #1, isnt there that big project SeattleWireless going on there, to link all over the city?

I mean...it makes sense seeing as they are ranked #1 and they have one of the biggest projects going....
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need4speed88

join:2005-06-03
Carnation, WA

WiMax baby

Seattle wants to be the leader in WiFi technology. WiMax is one of the 'big' bets they are hoping will do that. SF also has a open coverage based WiFi project so look for a little friendly competition.

Seattle... known for coffee... and now WiFi!
hurfy
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Spokane, WA

Re: WiMax baby

Apparently the survey doesn't actually count hot zones?!?
From the link someone gave it sounds like they need a business name to tie the spot to. Is this done by someone selling routers?

I have yet to figure out why Spokane never appears anywhere on this type of thing. 100 sq blocks of downtown (pretty much all of it) are a hot zone.

korym
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Re: WiMax baby

Probably because Intel's report revolves around WiMAX which isn't yet a "suitable" protocol for hotspot/hotzone endeavors. Perhaps an unbiased report is needed not by a manufacturer nor financially influenced support of a certain standard but a third-party partisan.

Just my two cents of course.

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Done_Posting
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Toledo, #5!

I'm not sure how many other companies have a wireless presence here, but I can confirm the fact that my company has been very agressive about deploying hotspots all over the place.

Aside from most of the coffee houses and ALL the libraries, we've got 5/3 Field online and many other spots around town.

The cool thing is that subscribers of our cable modem service get totally free access at any of the hotspots.

One of the few positive things I can claim about this "fair city"...

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Re: Toledo, #5!

As a former user of "Blackeye" for a while when I was in Toledo, they don't have much to brag about. The media monopoly there is utterly ridiculous and the cablesystem is just another facet of that.

Toledo is pretty good for wireless though, and not just wifi internet and free, open AP's -- their wireless/cell coverage is also awfully good. I have friends that will pull out a PDA or phone and look up something online while travelling down Reynolds or Airport and such.

Also, when I lived down there ComWavz was available (and was very, very good). I noticed that they don't list greater Toledo as a coverage area anymore though, so I can only assume they sold that section off to someone else, so I doubt it's probably as well-maintained as it once was.
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Re: Toledo, #5!



I'd be interested to hear why you would say something like this. Aside from the whole "monopoly" thing, which admittedly is somewhat true (we have Toledo pretty much locked down when it comes to cable), I think our internet offerings are very competitive. I personally have experienced a minimum of downtime on my BEX cable modem; on the other hand, I had *terrible* experiences with SBC xDSL.

As far as the monopoly thing goes, I think Buckeye is perfectly entitled to it. They dump tons of money down Toledo's liberal gullet for various charities and projects (read: millions per year), not to mention the $250M investment in stringing fiber to neighborhoods all over the place. I don't recall seeing SBC, who has an even denser presence here, doing anything for Toledo (not to say they don't, but I've never noticed it).

Personally, I detest this city -- but in my humble opinion Buckeye is one of the few positive things that I'd list when asked about Toledo.

Obviously, your mileage may vary (and it sounds like it has), but I felt the need to offer a dissenting opinion since I've always had a pretty good run with Buckeye.

My $.02 worth...

- Tate

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Unsurprising list

I was unsurprised to see a lot of Ohio areas, for example, listed. They don't have to fight the terrain so much in deploying AP's and towers.

Here in Michigan in most spots it's a wifi and wireless nightmare though. Trees are *everywhere*, hills, rivers, and lakes make the terrain vary so dramatically from one mile to the next, even in some urban areas... so I'm not surprised the Michigan contingent on the list is sparse. There are plenty of areas around here that simply don't (and can't feasibly) even get basic cellphoeen coverage as it is, let alone other wireless services. And that really can't and won't be addressed unless someone wants to put up tons and tons of towers...
mikenolan7
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Top 100?

I'm just a Newbie here, but I keep re-reading the description of this survey. It looks to me like this is the biggest 100 metropolitan areas, ranked from 1 to 100 in wireless capabilities. That is very different than what the headlines suggest, which is the top 100 wireless cities. If you are #80 here, you are not the 80th best city in America, you are in the bottom 20% of big American cities. Am I reading this correctly?
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