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Netscape 'Trusts' Crapware Vendors
AOL seal of approval doesn't mean much
The folks at Sunbelt Software and Spyware Warrior take a peek at the new Netscape browser's "trust rating system" (used to determine "safe" websites), and find it's a veritable who's who of crapware purveyors & supporters. Not particularly shocking, considering AOL uses the antispyware detection services of Aluria, who as we've noted has stopped detecting products by major sleazeware vendors like WhenU. AOL is shifting from ISP to Ad-driven marketing mogul, in turn giving the green light to a long list of vendors whose business ethics are sorely lacking.
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DaveDude
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey

DaveDude

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add/remove programs

Well seeing i have IE and Firefox, why mess with netscape, remove program click.

CPM
Broadband, DSL, cable
join:2001-08-24
Denver, CO

CPM

Member

hmm

Anything that has do with aol has gone in the poop house. Even Time Warner took aol name out of its name. I guees the past aol CEO sold time warner a bunch of snake oil.

I don't feel bad for them. They did the same to ted turner. Then again I don't feel bad for anyone that has more money in the bank then I do.

yengec
join:2000-03-24
Boca Raton, FL

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Re: add/remove programs

I have IE on my XP boxes and FF on my Mandriva boxes. Everybody I know uses either IE or FF... I really don't think there is a place for Netscape in the browser market anymore.

I think this AOL/Aluria snafu had just put another nail to Netscape's coffin...

chia
join:2003-12-20
Fort Lauderdale, FL

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chia

Member

maybe..

..but AOL protects my sandwich from the jello

guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA

guitarzan

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Re: maybe..

Thats funny hahaha
Is the jelly detected as a virus or trojan.? I hope my AV app's got me "covered"

CurtesyFlush
Bababooey, fafafooey, tatatoothy.
Premium Member
join:2002-08-23
Fontana, CA

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Re: maybe..

said by guitarzan:

Thats funny hahaha

Is it necessary to write "hahaha" after "that's funny" AND a ?

guitarzan
Premium Member
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA

guitarzan

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Re: maybe..

In this case Yes.I pictured that ad on tv the very second I read that and burst into laughter.Normally most people do
laugh after finding something funny.I take it you did not find it funny.Maybe you got hit with jelloware.Wait maybe you use aol.?

freebird317
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join:2004-02-23
Vancouver, WA
Netgear R8000
Netgear R6300 v1
(Software) DD-WRT

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said by chia:

..but AOL protects my sandwich from the jello
lol
EnTRANCEd
join:2003-02-04
Dublin, CA

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LOL

exocet_cm
Writing
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join:2003-03-23
Brooklyn, NY

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Re: maybe..

ROFL!

BillRoland
Premium Member
join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL

1 recommendation

BillRoland

Premium Member

New spyware definitions needed

"NEW: Added detection for America Online (all variants) - Category: Crapware"

Ant718
join:2002-01-30
Bronx, NY

Ant718

Member

CRAP = AOL!

AOL/Netsacpe IS a virus!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chickenhq
Ozon3
join:2001-11-28
here

1 recommendation

chickenhq

Member

Re: CRAP = AOL!

Well just like last time netscape mail is now failing to log into my netscape webmail(tempting a upgrade to 8.0x). Oh well guess i'll have to do it manually like yahoo, hotmail.

icz
@newyorklife.com

1 recommendation

icz

Anon

Re: CRAP = AOL!

before giving in to temptation to 8.0x check this site out...
Netscape 8 and Internet Explorer's XML rendering...
»blogs.msdn.com/ie/archiv ··· 763.aspx

My favorite part...
Unfortunately if Netscape 8 remains installed then the registry key is continually rewritten

what type of behavior does this sound like...

Anonymous88
Premium Member
join:2004-06-01
IA

Anonymous88

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Am I missing something here?

Last time I checked AOL was a crapware vendor.

Grail Knight

Premium Member
join:2003-05-31
Valhalla

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Grail Knight

Premium Member

Nothing new here

Another day goes by and AOL is still screwing themselves.
63353372 (banned)
join:2003-06-18
Canada

63353372 (banned)

Member

Another AOL story

Let's just group all the responses into one post.

"AOHell!!!'

"WHen will AOL just die?"

"I'll never use shitty AOL!"

"AOL is full of noobs!!!1"

"Another reason why I'll never use Nutscrape!!!1"

"I'm so glad I use FF!!"

TheSaint
join:2002-01-25
Hanover Park, IL

TheSaint

Member

AOL is dying a slow, painful death.

^^^ It can't come too quickly. ^^^

Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX

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Doctor Four

Premium Member

AOL is digital kudzu

From Netlingo:
said by netlingo.com:
This refers to the placement of small computer files in seemingly every nook and cranny of a computer's system during the installation of an application. Any attempt to later delete that application inevitably leaves some digital kudzu behind, to interfere with other computer processes forevermore. What a PITA!
This describes AOL's effect on your OS to a tee!

xNPC
As Usual, Have Nice Day
Premium Member
join:2000-11-08
Errington, BC

xNPC

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well, birds of a feather...

and you know the rest.

Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

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Transmaster

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Re: well, birds of a feather...

There is this ad' for AOL where the lady brings in a cake to thank AOL for keeping spam and such out of her computer. My evil mind thinks of the same scene but in stead of a lady with a cake it is a suicide bomber. Are you the one who let all the spam in my computer. Yes.....BOOOOOOOOOOM!
patriotpa
join:2002-01-07
Summerdale, PA

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Transmaster:

Transmaster:
Low voltage Tech's are wimps, Real tech's use 45 pound filament transformers, plate voltages no less then 2400 volts with at least 10 amp's lighting 8877 triodes...BPL I'm coming to get you.

So... Only 45Lb fil xformer? Nice for a little project. We used a fork truck for ours. 18KV Plate, 31A RF line current.... Who's the wimp ? Oh, and destructive testing done @ 6KV, 2KA on some other gear. POWER!:)

Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

Transmaster

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Re: Transmaster:

said by patriotpa:

Transmaster:
Low voltage Tech's are wimps, Real tech's use 45 pound filament transformers, plate voltages no less then 2400 volts with at least 10 amp's lighting 8877 triodes...BPL I'm coming to get you.

So... Only 45Lb fil xformer? Nice for a little project. We used a fork truck for ours. 18KV Plate, 31A RF line current.... Who's the wimp ? Oh, and destructive testing done @ 6KV, 2KA on some other gear. POWER!:)
Ya now there is what I call a real he man, no girly boys here.:D

Razgriz
Pandora rocks
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join:2005-05-31
Fayetteville, NC

Razgriz

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Netscape

ehh Netscape sucks now, better to use Firefox or IE now.

Dryvlyne
Far Beyond Driven
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join:2004-08-30
Newark, OH

Dryvlyne

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I'll admit it... I use Netscape 8

It is ashame that so many of you have been turned off of Netscape just because of its affiliation with AOL. While I agree that AOL sucks badly, I find the new Netscape 8 to be quite useful.

At first I too was not going to try the new Netscape simply because of AOL, but because of my love for all things technology I decided to test drive it anyway. To my surprise I ended up liking it and now have it as my primary browser (of course I still have IE, Firefox and Opera in case I get bored )

Anyway, I think the dual-rendering engines is great. I like being able to define which rendering engine I want to use on the fly and on a per site basis. It is also refreshing to finally have another browser that I can use to go to the windowsupdate.com site and have it actually work! I also like the multitude of security features I can control on a per site basis (for example disabling ActiveX, javascript, Java, cookies, images, pop-ups and/or VBscript). The passcard and form fill options work quite nicely as well and I like how highly customizable the My Sidebar and all purpose toolbars are.

I have read that there are people out there that have experienced several bugs with Netscape 8 and while I have encountered some minor ones (like some shortcuts keys not working and the back button jumping too far back in my history) I have not had any major crashes or hangs.

I now that some of you have probably sworn off Netscape for various reasons (I know I did after version 7.1), but I really think this version is at least worth a try. If you give it a whirl with a fairly open mind you may just end up liking it as well . Let there be no mistake though, I still think AOL as a company sucks

mers2
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join:2004-03-20
USA

mers2

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Re: I'll admit it... I use Netscape 8

Just curious, did you read the EULA before installing? Netscape reserves the right to make changes to your computer without giving you notice.

Dryvlyne
Far Beyond Driven
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join:2004-08-30
Newark, OH

Dryvlyne

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Re: I'll admit it... I use Netscape 8

said by mers2:

Just curious, did you read the EULA before installing? Netscape reserves the right to make changes to your computer without giving you notice.
I did read it and I do not find it all that different from MANY of the EULAs I have agreed to over the years for various software. Just because they reserve a right does not mean they will ever invoke that right. I am quite sure they know what the repercussions of such an action would bring. Besides, I opted out of the option for them to automatically update the browser if an update is available and I do know where the Add/Remove button is if I ever become dissatisfied with the browser .

RDins
@comcast.net

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I like the new Netscape also, but I was getting some crashes with it so I had to go back to FF until the next version is released. I do like the interface on NS, I think its pretty slick.

dfc888
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join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA

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IE vs. NS

IE's Trusted Zone List and Zone Controls > Netscape.

IE = loads fast and smooth (for most ppl at the least ) > Netscape's bloatedness.

If I couldn't use IE, I'd rather go with Mozilla or Firefox than to use Netcrap.

StraitShoot
Who Loves Ya Baby? - Theo Kojak
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join:2003-02-08
Clinton, MA

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Re: IE vs. NS

said by dfc888:

IE's Trusted Zone List and Zone Controls > Netscape.

IE = loads fast and smooth (for most ppl at the least ) > Netscape's bloatedness.

If I couldn't use IE, I'd rather go with Mozilla or Firefox than to use Netcrap.
Bloatedness? I think it's just "hate"..

The thing is be honest.. If you don't like Netscape because it's slow, that's fine, but I can't see that.. Netscape is the fastest browser I ever ran, plus I can make it work on ANY site! Unlike Firefart, Exploder, or Oh!-Please-UH! (Opera)...
LOL

dfc888
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join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA

dfc888

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Re: IE vs. NS

I use to like Netscape! Back when it was Netscape v4 !

monkiesatemybaby

Anon

re: netscape/aol

I started using firefox a couple years back and it has drastically reduced the amount of crapware that i have to deal with. Netscape used to be my browser, but being butt-buddies with AOL scared me off since AOL is evil... insinuates itself into EVERYTHING (kinda like microsoft or symantec, but sleazier) I've been trying for years to clean things up so my computer does what I want, when I want, no more no less. The only drawback I found to firefox was that I did have to download a couple of dll's separately in order to view certain windows based media on some pages, and a couple of yahoo sites and so forth that used java went a trifle squirrelly on me. BUT, I found a plug-in that actually lets me right click on any page and use IE to render it within a firefox tab should I choose to do so. Thus my computer is still less exposed, and I can still see what I want when I want. Firefox and kaspersky have fixed everything I want fixed, and no more netscape/aol/crapware ugliness. YAY