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As an extension of the main webpage
(old news - 06:50PM Wednesday May 25 2005)
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Bram Cohen's Torrent search has officially gone live. Now to answer the question we asked yesterday: will he be able to avoid lawsuits? If the site is ad-driven, he'll want to include pirated material and the traffic that brings (which it's doing right now). But by including pirated material, he faces the wrath of the entertainment industry and an endless flood of DMCA takedown requests.

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karlj1

join:2004-01-25
Ottawa, ON

Bring on the Lawsuits...

Gee, I wish I had balls that big. While the legality remains to be seen, you don't want to paint a target on your head.

Not saying who will win or lose, but hey, lawyers aren't cheap.
Asmodeus

join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA

Re: Bring on the Lawsuits...

said by karlj1 See Profile:

Gee, I wish I had balls that big. While the legality remains to be seen, you don't want to paint a target on your head.

Not saying who will win or lose, but hey, lawyers aren't cheap.
lawyers may not be cheap, but if he gets one from the american creepy liars union it will be free most likely...

SilenceGold
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Benton, AR

Pass me the popcorn...

Let's sit back and watch and see what happens..

Free tickets!
karlj1

join:2004-01-25
Ottawa, ON

Re: Pass me the popcorn...

said by SilenceGold See Profile:

Let's sit back and watch and see what happens..
Yes, but if we miss it, we can still download it with BitTorrent and watch.


ctceo
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Relation

I wonder if he's any relation to Bram Stoker?

Steve
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Re: Relation

I wonder if I'm related to Steve Gibson?

pcscdma
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Re: Relation

Are you talking about Steve "syncookies" Gibson, Steve "UPnP" Gibson or Steve "Stealth" Gibson?
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B
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You're not Steve Gibson??

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pcscdma
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Re: Relation

Stephen J. Friedl
that's what the .sig says
I haven't heard Steve See Profile rant endlessly about raw sockets on the security forums, so it definitely isn't Steve Gibson.
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Steve
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said by B See Profile:

You're not Steve Gibson??
First clue: no attractive use of color

Phil
Rojo Sol
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Well it works...

Searched for "Sith" and it pulled up two available Torrents for Star Wars III. I have mixed feelings on this, but this is going to make unbelievably easy to find warez/pirated material. In the end I wouldn't touch any Torrent related software with a 10 foot pole.
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Nerdtalker
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Re: Well it works...

said by Phil See Profile:

this is going to make unbelievably easy to find warez/pirated material.
How? Searchable tracker sites like these have been around for a while now.

I don't even like half of the results, »www.torrentspy.com remains a better resource, hands down.
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Re: Well it works...

said by Nerdtalker See Profile:

said by Phil See Profile:

this is going to make unbelievably easy to find warez/pirated material.
How?
I wouldn't know the mechanics of how this works. From an inexperienced (have never used any torrent related software) "warez collector" this search engine found exactly what I queried.
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Nerdtalker
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Re: Well it works...

said by Phil See Profile:

I wouldn't know the mechanics of how this works. From an inexperienced (have never used any torrent related software) "warez collector" this search engine found exactly what I queried.
Torrentspy, isohunt, Lokitorrent (shutdown), and Suprnova.org (shutdown) are a few examples of sites that essentially provide(d) the same kind of warez searchability.

That's why they've been targeted so heavily recently.

This move by Bram Cohen is more of a personal "screw you" (if you will) in the face of the **AA.
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jmcd088

join:2005-02-08
Reading, PA

To risky

I don't even mess with bit torrent anymore, its way to risky.

CPM

join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL

Slow

The site is very slow.

Vamp
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Re: Slow

said by CPM See Profile:

The site is very slow.
sure it will speed up when the traffic balances out, right now everyone is hitting it at once.
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foamy
B
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Re: Slow


Yeah, it's really too bad there's no technology that better distributes the load... you know, something that took advantage of all of the people trying to access it at the same time... Hmmm....

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DaneJasper
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Zzzzzzz... Ditto.

EdibleTarget
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join:2004-12-02
Lowell, MA

why would they sue?

it actually gives the mpaa and riaa an easier way to find torrents, expecially popular ones...

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Re: why would they sue?

I searched for "xp" and this is what came up..

Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition PROPER REPACK - EcHoS from www.thepiratebay.org
Estimated speed: Unknown
Torrent contains: 39 files, 554 MB
echos-winxpprox64pr.nfo
echos-winxpprox64pr.r00
echos-winxpprox64pr.r01
echos-winxpprox64pr.r02 ...(35 more files)
link removed.

So, yeah you can find piracy on there.

EdibleTarget
Real Gamers Dont Use Consoles

join:2004-12-02
Lowell, MA

Re: why would they sue?

obviously =P

but i wouldnt touch any of the popular torrents with a 40 foot pole now that the mpaa/riaa are so bent on suing over them.

ArchAngel21x
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Impressive

Click for full size

chaud
Serious Business

join:2004-07-09
Anderson, SC

Re: Impressive

Same thing is happening for me. I wanted to try it but noooo..

jazzy_

join:2004-01-27
Charleston, SC
drat, down already :P

Kfedka
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join:2005-05-06
Spokane, WA
Same error here also...
glal14

join:2005-03-13
Port Washington, NY

Re: Impressive

same here... wow if its dead already, thats a bit depressing
-__-;;
winampii

join:2005-05-16
Evans, WA


1 edit
Click for full size
work for me
TripmasterG

join:2004-01-01
Centreville, VA

OK

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete yo
*ur request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@localhost and inform them of the time t
*he error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_jk/1.2.10 Server at search.bittorrent.com Port 80

(*) WARNING 2 long line(s) split

Doesn't look like it's ready.:hmm:

Vamp
5c077
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google..

I love the google style, I wonder if it is actually powered by google technology?
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glal14

join:2005-03-13
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Re: google..

I noticed the google style too...

i think they would have to say "powered by Google" or "enhanced by google" if that was the case.

FDisk
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join:2003-08-18
Israel

Huh?

I need to install a client to use a search engine?
Am I missing here something?
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Vamp
5c077
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Re: Huh?

no you dont, but the search is not working right now, try it later or tomorrow.
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foamy

FDisk
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Re: Huh?

Well, I use Azureus. I don't want to switch to another client to use the search engine.
And how is this different from what Exeem started?
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Vamp
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Re: Huh?

said by FDisk See Profile:

Well, I use Azureus. I don't want to switch to another client to use the search engine.
And how is this different from what Exeem started?
this has nothing to do with anything exeem related..

Howeever the trackerless bit torrent will be better than exeem because exeem failed.
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foamy

P2P4EVER

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Well see soon what the mpaa will do

The only torrent site that I think is safe is piratebay.org because there done from another country and they dont have the same laws as the u.s. regaurding piracy they have a nice little section of legal threats from about every major company including mpaa all the way up to microsoft there replies are pretty funny as well because basically all there threats are empty because they cant do sh*t but if you gonna use em I would advise using peerguard2 as a back up just in case your being watched I like to think of it as a condom over my zonealarm :P.

BillGatesFriends


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mrchris See Profile

DEATH to all P2P facilitators of theft & Pirates !

These scumbags can run but they can't hide and the justice dept. will close these criminals down and throw their azzes in prison where they belong with all the Pirates.
gambon

join:2004-07-06
Alhambra, CA

Re: DEATH to all P2P facilitators of theft & Pirat

And once again taylor delivers another great rallying speech. In fact I'm so touch by it I'm gonna go and report all my neighbours to the RIAA and MPAA police. I'm sure at lease one of them could be a pirate! So what if there are innocent among them, I can't stand by and see Britney Spears travel around in a gulfstream 4 instead of a gulfstream 5.

Swede

@telia.com

Well, one of the most popular site is TPB and its based in Sweden and in Sweden the Supreme Court have ruled that linking to things are okay so TPB is ok to run. That is why they are a bit rude in their responses to various lawyers that threatens them.

Justice dept? The same that says its ok to torture people? Really... US justice is laughable. The more money you have and/or the whiter you are, the more can you get away with. Don't get me started about US justice.

You don't seem to know what the music biz is doing and how they rape democracy to get what they want. What they want is not always what is good for the people and what is right. They view things from only one side and politicians should view from all sides but they don't do that any longer because lobbyists scream louder than what you and me can. I have NEVER seen an independent report that says that the music business is actually losing money because of this. I have seen lots of reports that says that music biz is losing money to other business like Games and Movies. People spend their money on other products instead of music and its the music business own fault since they release crappy products.
caifeng

join:2005-05-24
Hampden, ME

I am so sick of these billionaires whining over their lack of ability to take my hard earned money for products I cant even get service for when I pay for them (and personally I do). You tell me how these guys are losing money if a poor person who has the ability to get a few movies or programs for cheaper than retail decides to do that and download a few torrents. You are buying in to these greedy, and morally sick, peoples point of view. When a billionaire cries about a ten dollar program, or an outrageously priced twenty dollar movie, it is nothing but greed. In a time when children are kidnapped and raped, innocent poor people are put to death, and racist indignations abound you want to spend time trying to prosecute a few poor people for outsmarting these rich bast***s. We live in a twisted time.
russotto

join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA

DMCA

If he acquiesces to all the DMCA requests, he can run the site with full legal shielding.

Of course, since that allows the MPAA and RIAA to bury him in paper, it's not a very practical option, and shows the chilling effect of the DMCA, but there you have it.

mrchris
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Re: DMCA

Bram is outside the United States, no?

Please don't feed mr taylortroll

I'm sure his buttbuddy IHateFirefox would say the same

johnsea
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Re: DMCA

Star wars is even on it so does all the other sites though.
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longstreet

join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX

Smart move by Bram

Well, he covered his ass legally, just read the disclaimer etc at the bottom of the site . .you basically agree to allow the site to whore out your information to anyone, including the xxAA and whoever. So if you use his search for illegal stuff, they will nail your ass.

Maybe not this time, maybe not next time, but eventually.

IMHO if your going to trade illegal stuff, do it the old fashioned way . .just trade with your friends . .borrow Cd's . .whatever.

nightwalker
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Appleton, WI

Star.Wars.Revenge.of.the.Sith.Episode.3

Even has starwars

»search.bittorrent.com/search.jsp···2=Search

Torrent contains: 6 files, 1537 MB
VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.BUP
VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO ...(2 more files)
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copperdoctor
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Next...

soon to be this...
www.Elitetorrents.org
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jimbo2150

join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH

Wish

Wish it would work for me... it is soo bogged down with traffic, I have not been able to run even 1 search yet. Just sits there and says 'Loading...'.

Give someone else a chance, lol!
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BT

sw.zip 144 bytes
(sw.jpg)

P2P4EVER

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Re: does Bram lives in another country

Bram lives in washington state it says on his site but even if theres illegal torrents there not his torrents there just links from other torrent sites so I dont think hill be in too much trouble since hes not hosting them just linking them.
taar

join:2000-11-21

Re: does Bram lives in another country

I dont think that matters to the MPAA. If he lives in the US, he better have some money saved up for a good lawyer.
blacksurfer

join:2002-07-14
Sherman Oaks, CA

Re: does Bram lives in another country

Anbody tried the beta program?
Goldengamego
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...

This was a really stupid move on Cohen's part. He had a good thing going with BT, but now that he is involved with the whole "warez torrent scene" any legitimacy BT had is gone.
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