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story category Free Copies of XP For Pirates?
Well, sort of.
(old news - 02:16PM Thursday May 05 2005)
tags: software
"As long as they're going to steal [software], we want them to steal ours," said Bill Gates back in 1998. "They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade." That "sometime" is apparently 2005, as the company has been trying (via their Genuine Advantage program) to crack down on pirated copies of XP. The latest effort, as CNET reports, is to give out free copies of XP to customers whose copies are bogus. It's not aimed at pirates, as much as it's aimed at users who bought pirated copies and could be converted to legit customers.

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Amr
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bogus

so, what your saying is that people who just so happen to "receive pirated copies" of XP get a free copy of XP? thats gay, time to call up Microsoft and get me a free copy.

sadowski
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Re: bogus

You wish. To get a free copy you have to prove purchase and place of purchase and provide the CD. And it applies to Pro only, not HE as far as I know.

If you don't do the above then you can BUY for $149 a key if you fill-in a counterfeit report.
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Batlad

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Re: bogus

So basically, you're not getting something for nothing. You're essentially being paid as an informant.

They're paying you to report if a sleazy shop slipped you a Singapore special instead of a legit copy of XP with your computer. I guess that's a fairly nice thing to do, as it's not your fault that the shop sold you a counterfeit.

The other $149 discounted price for pirates is kind of outrageous though. It basically encourages piracy, because now, instead of paying $200 for the legit copy of XP at a store, I can go to Times Square, buy an "OEM" (wink) version of XP for $10 and get a legit copy for a grand total of $159. Yeah, that makes so much sense.

a

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i love it how people like to play word games with microsoft. the funniest thing is that they ( the people )actually think they know which words to use & when. whatever makes you happy.

pcdebb
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I need a copy

....yea, and my name is Mrs. Michael Jackson Queen of England. I need my glasses to read the fine print on this one, it smells....
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Nazuel

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Smelly

Yeah I think this thing stinks to high heaven. Im not quite sure what the catches are....but they cannot be good. MS has too good of a legal department for this to be a boon.
normanph

join:2005-04-04
Ganado, TX

Read the article

The article explains that you must have your pirated XP Cd and receipt for the purchase or pay $149.00 for a copy.

Tomek
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Re: Read the article

What if I bought it on the street? No good deal Microsoft. And anyway somehow I converter to all legal, I even have one extra license. Funny.
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Re: Read the article

said by Tomek See Profile:

And anyway somehow I converter to all legal, I even have one extra license. Funny.
I agree with you totally... I gave up fighting the monster about 6 months ago and am legal now. *shrugs*
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Tomek
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Re: Read the article

I got free license because I replaced windows with Linux. [joke] I'M LEET [/joke]
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linux0wnz

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And whats to say I didn't buy it from my friend who "didn't need it anymore" and sold it to me for $50?

Maybe, if your are a total weirdo and require your friends to provide recipts, he printed a recipt that he made in word or something. Would MS accept that? Cause if they do I have about 30 recipts right ... uh around here somewhere, I'll have em for ya in 45mins.

HydroponiK
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neg

I think I'll pass on this one...
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koitsu
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Re: neg

You know the rule: puff puff pass.

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koitsu
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bmfan
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Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

Darn kazza never gave me a Recipt !!

Dustyn
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Genuine Advantage -> Yes or No?

That Genuine Advantage program is retarded.
All you have to do is click "No do not verify my copy of XP" and Microsoft STILL allows you to download whatever piece of software your looking for. At least you can get around this advantage program when using Firefox. Not sure when it comes to IE.
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philburg2

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Re: Genuine Advantage -> Yes or No?

Well the concept is that eventually it will be mandatory to update, not optional.

On a side note, what does that check even look for, serial key?

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Re: Genuine Advantage -> Yes or No?

Click for full size
That Do Not make illegal copys of this disk

just wants u to make An Copy of it

not quite right
I'D Tell You,But Your Head Would Explode

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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

said by bmfan See Profile:

Darn Kazaa never gave me a Receipt !!
I was just thinking the same thing!!!:D
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EdibleTarget
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downloading winxp from kazaa? sounds to me like a good place to pick up viruses/adware/spyware.
biznatch11

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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

true, if you're an idiot and don't know what you're doing. I've used Kazaa for 5 years and never got a virus/adware/spyware.

aaronfitz
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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

said by biznatch11 See Profile:

true, if you're an idiot and don't know what you're doing. I've used Kazaa for 5 years and never got a virus/adware/spyware.
You didn't happen to get your antivirus from Kazaa too, did you?
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biznatch11

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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

nope, bittorrent

P2PPirate2

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do not enter

So if microsoft scan your machine, do they collect all the informations in your harddrive

Bill
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Re: do not enter

quote:
During the validation and activation processes, Microsoft does not collect any information, such as your name or email address, that can be used to identify you or contact you. These processes simply enable Microsoft to create a match between your PC's hardware profile and your 25-character Product Key (located on the COA), which we then store and check against future activation and validation attempts. We do this to ensure that your Product Key cannot be used by another person in a malicious manner, such as activating a pirated or non-genuine copy of Windows.
According to them, no.
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FTCXtreme

join:2005-03-14
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You serious?

This iswhatp sises me off, I have a legit copy of XP, yet I have to crack Xactivation if I want to put it on another PC. I know peopel who pirate XP, but they only do it if its needed immediately, everyoen I know ones their own copy of XP, yet has shared it on another PC(The pirates do). Me and the priates are gonan build a ship and sail the seven seas, and bombard microsoft and steals their gold! ARR!

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Re: You serious?

Your copy of XP you bought is only good for one PC. If you are going to install it on more than one then you need to purchase additional licences. So you are no better than the pirates you are criticizing.
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TrebMaxx

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Re: You serious?

What irks me the most is that my XP is legit and paid for, but I tend to upgrade my system on frequent intervals. Now everytime I do something simple like change out a DVD burner I have to revalidate and call the 1-800 number, plead my case that it is my legal copy and I only have it on my 1 PC even if pieces of that PC have changed since I originally installed XP. Well almost everything has changed except the sound card, floppy drive and case. Anyway it is a pain in the arse and I am almost to the point of buying another copy just so I don't have to make those calls.

harry ball

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Re: You serious?

One word.

BITTORRENT

EdibleTarget
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Re: You serious?

i dont use bt now that everyone knows about it, you never know who is watching.

richk_1957
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said by toddbs98 See Profile:

Your copy of XP you bought is only good for one PC.
One PC at a time. If you purchased a retail copy of XP and your machine gets trashed, I believe they will allow you to transfer to another machine once. The person who did this told me that they ask a million questions to determine if the original machine is non-operational, though. It's not an easy process.

pahuser



Re: You serious?

All they ask is, "is this the first time you are activating your copy of Windows XP?"

I say no.

Then they say, "may I ask why you are requesting activation today?"

I say, because I'm installing it on my computer. (None of their damn business beyond that).

Then they ask "do you have this copy of XP installed on any other machine?"

I say no. (Which is the truth - 1 copy / 1 machine).

That's it. It's pretty painless. Just use a tone of voice like, "you will activate this product". Confidence. I paid good money for it. If I need to do a reinstall, or something after a component change, so be it.

DiscardedVet
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Where's The Catch?

I only see half an equation.

All this half would do is incline folks to GET a pirated copy, to get a free real copy.

Illogical as all hell.

DV

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Re: Where's The Catch?

yeah. MS is illogical as hell. what else is new?

Combat Chuck
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said by DiscardedVet See Profile:

All this half would do is incline folks to GET a pirated copy, to get a free real copy.
Which is fine for Microsoft if it leads them to a retailer who participates in large scale software piracy.
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rob_in_chatt
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XP

mine is pirated, but i do have a legit corporate license key i nabbed of a machine at work. if i do need to go legit its a damn shame work left the Certificate of Authenticity on the laptop LOL damn and its for XP Pro too. that sucks for them. there are many ways to beat microshaft out of the "requirement" of legit windows. belarc advisor shows you any key for any program after its installed. need i say more?

schmunk
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Re: XP

You got a very good point my man!
Ricky Smith
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There Suppose to leave the COA on the Machine. Thats what its for. I Think its ililgal not to put those on the machine. Also if your work ever found out you did that they would fire you in an instant.

TexasGuy
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May 5th, @03:36PM

How it works...

The program works NOT to give you free soft because they feel too rich. The point is TO CATCH pirates. That works like that, when you send them your "not original CD," you also send a receipt and a written statement that you bought that "what you thought" was original from such and such vendor. Basically, you make a legal statement that someone duped you by selling a CD that looked like original but also has a "hacked" key code.

So, this method allows people who BOUGHT (not downloaded from newsgroups or mIRC) an OS that they thought was authentic to get their hands on the real McCoy in exchange for the testimony against the pirate. Thus, MS collects info on the places that SELL M$ hacked products as original ones.

It is NOT for people who knowingly got their copy off P2P.
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Re: How it works...

This is going to be real interesting for people who bought their PC "preloaded" with Windows from the local Mom & Pop (or savvy family member). I doubt most of these shops give away the CD's (perhaps a CDR?)

Heck, I've done it for my family. My pop's machine started out with a "boosted" copy of Win2k on it. (it is actually a legit copy now, since I upgraded to WinXP Pro and gave him my original CD)
jimbo2150

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Cost

If their products did not cost so much they might make some money from 'Average Joe'.

As long as Micro$oft breaks the bank, so will they.
Damon85
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Re: Cost

Please... there are people who would steal it just as much if it cost $5. These are the same people who won't pay $0.99 for a music file. Theft is theft, it doesn't matter if you're stealing overpriced junk or grapes at the supermarket.

EdibleTarget
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Re: Cost

$.99 is pretty steep for one song...

aaronfitz
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said by Damon85 See Profile:

Please... there are people who would steal it just as much if it cost $5. These are the same people who won't pay $0.99 for a music file. Theft is theft, it doesn't matter if you're stealing overpriced junk or grapes at the supermarket.
$0.99 for a music file that can only be used in a limited manner. No thanks.

Once they start selling 256+kbps MP3s or OGGs for that price, I'll be all over it!
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No XP


Quite frankly, I wouldn't use Windows XP even if MS did give it to me for free.

I'll stick to the Windows 2000 Pro. I bought a few years ago.

pokemxn

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heynow

lol they will have your home address + phone number + your name hell no lol
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"Borrowed software"

I make every attempt to use pirated software for every application I can think of and I don't feel the least bit bad about it. Gonna charge me $200 for an OS that I have to have because the apps I need to use require it. SCREW YOU Bill Gates!!! It doesn't cost them near what they take in to develop their bug infested software (thats why Gates is a billionaire). If XP Pro cost $40 instead of $200 (or whatever it is - wouldn't know since I never bought a copy), they would still make a profit and many more people would be legit.

koolman2
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Re: "Borrowed software"

Unless I'm sadly mistaken, you CHOSE to run that software, correct?
biznatch11

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Since when do you *have* to use their OS? Did someone put a gun to your head? (although even then you could choose not to use it). The apps you *need* to use? Again, you choose to use them. And why are you using it if it's so bug infested? And why $40? Is that some magic number? Just because you are willing to pay $40 doesn't mean others are, and $200 or whatever seems to be serving Microsoft quite well, I don't think they're about to lower prices. Please put some thought in to your arguments, not just emotion.

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edit:
May 5th, @09:58PM

First of all, all "advanced" OSes charge money for the OS.Windows is one of them.

Mac OS Upgrades arent exactly $40 either.
Linux OS upgrades are ususally free *IF* the distro isnt "professional"

"Professional software"
Look at SuSE- $89.00
Linspire- $45.00
Windows XP $99.00->$299.00-Pricing depends on Number of licenses or Home/Professional/Media Center/*
Mac OS X $129.00->$199.00-Pricing depends on number of licenses.
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this is why windows 98 was nice, you could buy one legit copy and use it for unlimited PCs. this is how XP should be, well atleast XP-Home. i am the lone user of multiple machines, i should be able to use one disk because i am one user.
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Re: "Borrowed software"

You would think that should be the case, and I don't see why it can't be. However, the EULA states (even in Windows 98) that one license goes to one computer, period. I'm sure nobody lost sleep over it; I sure didn't. I honestly don't see why Microsoft can't sell the Home edition as one license goes to five computers or something... I mean, it's not like you can use Home in a professional environment anyway.
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jdir

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Gee - they want a receipt for a copy purchase?

Quick - someone go downto one of those stationary store and buy a stack of receipt - feed it through your laser printer and use microsoft word and fake up a receipt and print on the receipt.
sabretooth

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Re: Gee - they want a receipt for a copy purchase?

i don't like this one bit. for one thing, the price of an authentic license is roughly half the price for a new system, even in some retail circles. the way that a lot of computer manufacturers like to do things now is to create a windows backup on a seperate drive so the customers do not have the actual install disc available to them in the event they choose to (or need to) reformat the entire drive. for what it would cost to take the machine to be fixed, i can see where a lot of people would rather just go out and buy a whole new machine.

another factor is the software bundled in with many systems these days. the majority of people rarely utilize or even know about all that trial version software that comes packaged with the computers they buy. i don't even want to go into the number of systems i've seen with remnants of those programs running in the background and nibbling away at the system's resources. if a user purchased a dell computer with a dell version of windows xp, would that user only be entitled to a replacement for that particular version? if they opted for a legit copy of xp sans the bloat, would they now have to pay for a secondary license while the one that came with their system goes unused?

as it is, there are already plenty of places online where folks can download working windows service packs stitched together from people who have licensed copies and have already made the upgrade to their system. heck, even the p2p networks would have a ready supply of slipstreamed copies of windows with service packs preinstalled. the genuine authenticity program may very well prevent users with unlicensed copies from downloading their updates directly from microsoft, but given the alternative sites offering patches and other upgrades i fail to see how this would slow any of the pirates down.

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Re: Gee - they want a receipt for a copy purchase?

i fail to see how this would slow any of the pirates down.

: it does int
Fluker

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Damn....Thermal paper goes all black....
Sounds like copy protection to me..
jdir

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Santa Clara, CA
I also notice that a lot of online store just use regular plain white paper and print the receipt.
lfinato

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free xp

M$ is so full of themselves. What does the poor bastard like myself who scrapes by because you're trying to feed 3 mouths, all of them seem to need the computer at the same time for homework so maybe you have 2 or 3 in the home to alleviate gridlock and fights. Yeah this liscensing stuff is total bullshit. I wouldn't mind if they sold you multiple liscences for $40 or so each. Bill Gates can just suck my weenie b4 I"m gonna start cughing up the kind of dough he wants! I'll scrape by on 98 or Linux if necessary. Why is it I can by a whole NEW computer WITH a monitor for just a few $$ more than his stinkin' copy of windows anyway?
biznatch11

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Re: free xp

How can you be "scraping by" yet afford 2 or 3 computers? Get your priorities straight. I come from a family of 5 and until I moved out 1 computer served us just fine despite everyone needing it frequently for school and work. Also, why should Windows be cheaper now that computers are cheaper? People should be thankful they can get a new comp for a few hundred dollars instead of a few thousand. If the price of new comps increased would you then think it was ok to charge a lot for Windows?
lfinato

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Re: free xp

First the machines I run are "junkyard dogs" and second I didn't say I was "scraping by" I asked how someone who IS does it.
Maybe you have enough disposable income to drop $190 each for multiple machines. Good for you! Even MAC sells a very discounted lisc. for multiple machines. Why can't Gates?

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Re: free xp

Actually it's Mac, not MAC.

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altidude

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>I didn't say I was "scraping by"

Yes, you did.

Oleg
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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

Well I have illegal copy of XP Pro and Genuine Advantage program saying my copy Is legal
mAlfunkti0n

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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

I had to install the pirated copy last night. I did a reload and have lost my stupid XP CD. I do have a legit key, but no cd = no legit copy for me. Anyone know if a cd purchased from the store will work with this key?

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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

said by mAlfunkti0n See Profile:

I had to install the pirated copy last night. I did a reload and have lost my stupid XP CD. I do have a legit key, but no cd = no legit copy for me. Anyone know if a cd purchased from the store will work with this key?
I think it should work just fine

spk037

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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

thank god i dont have to deal with any of that ms bs anymore. i load what i want , when i want, completely legal, and higher quality. the freedom to use MY pc the way I want to is worth learning new ways.

nfixit2004
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Re: Free Copies of XP For Pirates?

Its always about the $, microsoft still wants to be pirated it helps their name stay strong!
Asmodeus1

join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA

oh dear...

there is an easy work-around for this issue if i am correct... just google the xp key generator and generate some keys for your xp install... then, in windows, just change your current xp key to the one you generated... it's a legit key afterall...

can someone prove me wrong on this...?
jdir

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Santa Clara, CA