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... but at a slower pace
(old news - 10:37AM Saturday Apr 30 2005)
tags: stats · software
OneStat.com reports that the global usage share of Mozilla's Firefox is slowing down, even after Friday's announcement that the open source browser surpassed the 50 million download mark. The browser showed an 0.24 percent increase in usage share since February 2005 bringing Mozilla's total global usage to 8.69 percent. Mozilla's total usage share had previously increased more than 1 percent during the period of November 2004 through February 2005. Microsoft's Internet Explorer continues to lead the way with a global usage share of 86.63 percent which is down 0.65 percent since February 2005.

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thender2
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Amazing!

1% in four months.

At this rate, Firefox will be adopted as a contending browser by.. 2008? 2010?

1% = sh!t
permalink · 2005-04-30 10:39:44 · Reply to this

oliphant
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Re: Amazing!

Actually less than 1/4% and falling...so more like forever.
permalink · 2005-04-30 12:08:17 · Reply to this

Vamp
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said by thender2 See Profile:

1% in four months.

At this rate, Firefox will be adopted as a contending browser by.. 2008? 2010?

1% = sh!t
You are forgetting one thing, version 1.1 will be released, then later 1.5. With these releases it will address some things that stop people from switching.
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permalink · 2005-05-01 03:05:14 · Print · Reply to this

dr3yec

join:2002-12-19
00000		 I really dont know what rock you live under, but almost everybody i know uses firefox these days. It is slowly catching on. To many big holes in IE for me to even think about anymore. And people want competition not just one product.
permalink · 2005-05-01 08:18:18 · Reply to this

James Carr

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Re: Amazing!

The hard truth is that FF has equally dangerous holes (pre 1.0.3 allowed exploiters to grab anything in RAM including your passwords) -- hence the prompt update to 1.0.3 recently. And many of it's not-well-coded plug-ins cause hangs and crashes for quite a number of power users (think Winamp + bad plug-ins).

Get on the FF dev forums and look around for a bit before you get atop a mountain and sing it's praise so loud. All software have bugs and FF is no better than IE at stopping a version 1.x from having them. In the pre 1.x days the FF dev team used the "it's still beta" excuse quite a lot but now they are forced to work much harder and face real world expectations. Apple's Safari is equally under stress and is known to hang equally well as IE or FF.

FF is however an excellent example of what can be achieved when a team of people put their minds together.

You will also want to check out slashdot for recent info on how FF development is under threat these days.
permalink · 2005-05-01 14:33:19 · Print · Reply to this

reflex9

join:2004-02-09

Stats for each OS would be nice

I wonder how many Mac users prefer Safari over Firefox.
permalink · 2005-04-30 11:03:00 · Reply to this
SpartanVII

join:2003-12-04

Re: Stats for each OS would be nice

Check one, for me. I recently switched over to a Mac, and figured I would be using Firefox instead of Safari because I use Firefox on my Windows computer. But, there really is no comparison between the two in terms of speed , start-up time, etc.
permalink · 2005-04-30 12:13:27 · Reply to this

kfsutops
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clubs:		 On OSX Tiger, Safari works a lot better. I used to be a die hard Firefoxer, but now I'm going to use Safari.
permalink · 2005-04-30 12:37:58 · Reply to this

enOehT
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permalink · 2005-04-30 13:28:18 · Reply to this

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Re: Stats for each OS would be nice

I switched from PC to MAC thinking I would use Firefox.. I switched because of having to dump IE, run 3 spyware checking programs each day, antivirus, and having to run crap cleaner everytime I removed or modified software to fix the registry from bad programmers install/uninstall programs.

Now all the headaches of using computers is gone but I am now using Safari. It just kicks ass on the MAC even more than Firefox does.

Wierd.. Guess everything doesn't turn out the way you think it would.

25 years PC usage experience, Ex-Microsoft Employee, Ex-Microsoft Trainer =) Now a Mac/OSX user and loving it.
permalink · 2005-05-04 21:53:00 · Print · Reply to this

FDisk
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It's a Zoo.

WTF is up with browsers and animals. And why no one calls their browser "The Turtle".
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permalink · 2005-04-30 11:16:40 · Reply to this

Ark

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1 edit

W3Schools stats

Click for full size
W3Schools stats
W3Schools stats look pretty optimistic.
permalink · 2005-04-30 12:06:58 · Reply to this

Rob A
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Re: W3Schools stats

Click for full size
This looks better.:D
permalink · 2005-04-30 15:22:44 · Reply to this

Viper007Bond
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Re: W3Schools stats

You suck at using the clone tool. I can see where you erased the lines.

And I tried Opera and hated it.
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permalink · 2005-04-30 16:03:57 · Reply to this

Rob A
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Re: W3Schools stats

What did you hate about it? Especially with its speed and all of its great features.
permalink · 2005-04-30 18:00:57 · Reply to this

Ark

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Re: W3Schools stats

I would say its inability to render things correctly, even in Opera 8.0, but Opera probably thinks they are rendering things correctly, even if the site only looks like it's intended to under Firefox, Netscape 6+, Mozilla, and IE 5+.
The skins in Opera really annoy me. The banner ad is a absolute deal breaker and there is no way I'm paying for something when there are free and also better alternatives. They also set up the keyboard shortcuts in weird ways that bother me, such as the inability to shift+arrow to select text.
permalink · 2005-04-30 18:04:51 · Print · Reply to this

Viper007Bond
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 I just disliked it's layout I guess.

The biggest reason I love Firefox is due to all of the great extensions that are out there.
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permalink · 2005-04-30 18:25:05 · Reply to this

Rob A
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Re: W3Schools stats

Opera has no need for extensions cause everything is built-in to opera. The only thing not built-in is the opera adfilter, same as firefox adblock, which can be download here »www.monroeworld.com/operafilter/. And just by going to tools>appearance you can change opera's layout to look how you want it to look.
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permalink · 2005-04-30 18:28:46 · Print · Reply to this
uvacow

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Re: W3Schools stats

whoa there buddy. "Everything is built in already."

Like the web developer extension I use? Like the gmail notifier I use. Like the bugmenot context menu that allows me to pull an anonymous password with a single right click and selection?? Like complete graphic FTP browser and my trusty Lorem Ipsum creator?

And these are just the extensions I use. Now, you may not find these neccessary for proper browsing, but I have grown to enjoy and use them, so no, Opera does not have everything it would ever need. But nice try.
permalink · 2005-04-30 20:58:58 · Print · Reply to this

Ark

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 Based on your crappy edit, at the end of the chart, you are predicting about 30% usage from some other browser other than those 3, so Opera would still be only 2nd place, unless that 30% just gets spread over all the other little guys.
Anyway, Opera can never win with banner ads or payment as the only choices. I'm not saying it has to be open source, but most people won't buy a browser when there are plenty of free ones, and most people won't put up with that dumb banner wasted space.
permalink · 2005-04-30 18:01:22 · Reply to this

Tsume
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 I use firefox, but because it complies to standards, unlike IE. If IE were standards compliant, I'd probably switch back (but it's not- ex. see PNG + Transparancy).

Saying that, most people who visit W3 probably use a standards compliant browser, since the W3 site is mostly about web standards on XHTML, XML, CSS, and the like. So maybe that graph works for them.
permalink · 2005-04-30 19:40:56 · Reply to this

Bobcat
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Yawn

So for every Firefox user, there are 10 -- count 'em -- 10 Internet Explorer users. This is news? <yawn>
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permalink · 2005-04-30 12:50:45 · Reply to this

DaDogs
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Re: Yawn

said by Bobcat See Profile:

So for every Firefox user, there are 10 -- count 'em -- 10 Internet Explorer users. This is news? <yawn>
I'm not convinced. I've seen Microsoft purchase pollsters many times in the past. Even in this thread we see a site which claims that FF has 28% market share.

I believe this is probably closer to the truth when you are looking at technophiles because my own statistics at freeantennas.com show about 32% market share. Freeantennas is the kind of site that attracts a very specific group of people and usually only for one or two visits.

Thus I can say with reasonable confidence that 1 out of three "technically competent" people prefer Firefox. As this number closely agrees with the graph shown in this thread, and the graph is based primarily upon REAL datapoints. It looks like IE is dying a slow and painful death.

Nothing could make me happier except seeing MS do the same thing... but I am a MS hater.
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permalink · 2005-04-30 13:59:12 · Print · Reply to this

Bobcat
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Re: Yawn

Here are the statistics for one of my web sites for last month:

  Browser Summary
  ---------------
  Listing the top 10 browsers by the number of requests,
  sorted by the number of requests.

   #reqs:  %reqs: browser
  ------: ------: -------
  31,217: 75.64%: MSIE
   3,245:  7.86%: Firefox
   1,542:  3.74%: Netscape (compatible)
   1,479:  3.58%: Safari
   1,420:  3.44%: Netscape
     372:  0.90%: Mozilla
     320:  0.78%: Googlebot
     259:  0.63%: Opera
     252:  0.61%: msnbot
     132:  0.32%: LinkWalker
   1,035:  2.51%: [not listed: 73 browsers]

My results match the 10:1 ratio from the news article.

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permalink · 2005-05-01 09:22:27 · Print · Reply to this

DaDogs
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Re: Yawn


Real Stats
Whatever ... I don't believe stats someone types into a page.

Show me don't tell me.
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permalink · 2005-05-02 10:54:09 · Print · Reply to this

Bobcat
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Re: Yawn

It was cut-and-pasted from the ASCII report generated by Analog.
permalink · 2005-05-02 12:12:10 · Reply to this

DaDogs
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Re: Yawn

Whatever, mine is bigger than yours
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permalink · 2005-05-02 14:33:29 · Reply to this

aenties

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firefox to opera

i started to use Opera 8 more and more but i've been a long time user of firefox..
firefox consumes too much memory for my taste where opera is perfect
permalink · 2005-04-30 13:36:51 · Reply to this

alg
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Que FF fanboys and FF haters

I am surprised they haven't arrived yet.
permalink · 2005-04-30 14:18:23 · Reply to this

Cop
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weha

well i just switched over about a week ago and love it except it doesnt do well on ebay
permalink · 2005-04-30 15:05:16 · Reply to this
rextilleon

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Pleasantville, NY

Re: weha

I wonder if this will continue considering the fact that some of the primary developers of FF have jumped ship.
permalink · 2005-04-30 15:26:06 · Reply to this

Anti_Cyrix
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Firefox > IE for my taste

I've been using firefox for about a year now, and never looked back to IE. Just installed v.1.0.3 a week ago, and haven't run into any problems on any of the computers I have at home (YET... ...for insurance of the statement ).
I'd recommend firefox to any IE user that hasn't tired it yet.
permalink · 2005-04-30 17:12:05 · Reply to this
MizTEcK

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Re: Firefox > IE for my taste

meh, I've been using IE since the begging, it poses no problems on my computers, since everyone installs third party protections anyways, even when they use firefox, there is really no need to switch, and im too used to IE to switch to anything else. I've tried a few third party browsers includinf ff and opera to come with that conclusion btw
permalink · 2005-04-30 20:06:18 · Reply to this
gahzinia

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Re: Firefox > IE for my taste

»secunia.com/product/11/
"Currently, 19 out of 80 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database."
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Highly critical

»secunia.com/product/4227/
Mozilla Firefox 1.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Less critical
...
Currently, 4 out of 15 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database.

So IE is still not going to be a bigger vulnerability in your system?

"it poses no problems on my computers, since everyone installs third party protections anyways"
then how do people still get spyware or adware on their systems? why do I have to go clean those computers at work taking up my time when I could be doing other things? We have virus protection and spyware protection corporate wide, yet I still have to go clean computers. Tell me, please, how that is happening if it poses no problem.

"and im too used to IE to switch to anything else"
How old are you to be so set in your ways like that?

I had used IE since before I can remember when, but I started using FF in version .8 and I haven't looked back.

Sure there is a little period of adjustment, but so what? Check out:
»www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/switch
»www.nidelven-it.no/articles/intr···_firefox
»www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq

If IE wasn't so tied in with the operating system that would be great. If its security was tightened up by default that would be great. When I do house calls for people who can't use their computers anymore because of all the popups and how slow their computer is, I clean the spy/ad/malware and install firefox along with forecast fox, adblock, and some live bookmarks, and they never have any problems again.
permalink · 2005-04-30 22:57:37 · Print · Reply to this

lorken85

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Who cares... thats all i ever see on this site now news about firefox... msg to the admins of this site.. get your heard out of thier ass hole.. no one cares how many people downloaded thier damn browser
permalink · 2005-04-30 22:20:21 · Reply to this
stridr69

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Re: .

Precisly...WHO CARES!!
William Shakespeare wote a play 400 years ago called: "Much Ado About Nothing"..as well as "Seinfield" being a TV show about nothing at all.
Jeeze! C'mon, folks, pick the bowroser of your choice and go w/it.
permalink · 2005-04-30 23:52:39 · Reply to this
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