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| It's sad... You would think they would keep a close eye after that major outage last week. Oh well, we have backup DNS servers  -- Apple rules!!! Get an iPod and iBook today, what's to lose? »www.apple.com | |
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join:2001-04-11 Pittsburgh, PA | Re: It's sad... I switched to Vonage and haven't had any issues whatsoever. I highly recommend to anyone! | |
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@172.21.x.x | Re: It's sad...
god you must be dumb, DNS is Domain Name System, Vontage uses Ip adresses, of course it will work | |
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join:2002-07-09 Aurora, IL | All I have to say is Thank You for the alternate DNS server...I just plugged them in and back on the net. | |
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| Re: It's sad... On behalf of the techies here that proposed the solution, your welcome. I was just relaying information from past outages and FAQ posts. -- Apple rules!!! Get an iPod and iBook today, what's to lose? »www.apple.com | |
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join:2000-10-10 Lake Arrowhead, CA | Re: It's sad... Is there some reason why you use Verizon's LA DNS servers (besides the fact that Comcast's DNS Servers don't work)?
Why not other Comcast DNS servers they might have? | |
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| Re: It's sad... I use Comcast as the Primary and 4.2.2.2 as the secondary.
I never noticed any outage since most of my page requests were already cached in XP and anything new went to the Secondary. There may have been a slight delay while waiting a second or two for the Comcast DNS request to time out.
It's generally not a good idea to use someone elses DNS server as your Primary as it's putting an extra unanticipated load on them. When they do their requirements forcasting they only use their own customer base in the equation, they're not considering the load of a few million extra requests coming from the Comcast network. What could end up happening if the load gets to be too much is the other DNS host could block requests from anyone not on their network, that would be a bad thing. | |
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join:2004-05-14 Steger, IL | Well all's I can say is thanks BBR for letting me know about the alternate DNS option, so now I don't have to be offline.  | |
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@comcast.net | Biggest disaster for a company claiming to have fastest connection but can't figure out to maintain a simple DNS server....been using another isp's DNS server and works great...anybody knows some website to get ip's for dns?? | |
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| said by File Quit :You would think they would keep a close eye after that major outage last week. Oh well, we have backup DNS servers You really think ths is comcasts fault, let me see the issue begins with latency, and timeouts, then escalates into a fullblow outage. Making the DNS servers in accessible, needless to ask, what outside force could be taking down the servers? | |
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| Re: It's sad... said by pkarlos_76 :said by File Quit :You would think they would keep a close eye after that major outage last week. Oh well, we have backup DNS servers You really think ths is comcasts fault, let me see the issue begins with latency, and timeouts, then escalates into a fullblow outage. Making the DNS servers in accessible, needless to ask, what outside force could be taking down the servers? Good point P? | |
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| said by pkarlos_76 :said by File Quit :You would think they would keep a close eye after that major outage last week. Oh well, we have backup DNS servers You really think ths is comcasts fault, let me see the issue begins with latency, and timeouts, then escalates into a fullblow outage. Making the DNS servers in accessible, needless to ask, what outside force could be taking down the servers? Comcast »uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?ho···cast.com
Uptime does not look good and lots going on their in that picture.
AT&T »uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=att.com
What would you expect, UNIX is meant to run the net.
Cox »uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=cox.com
Notice the uptime improvement when they upgraded to win2003 server. I think win2k server is too patched together to be affective as a critical service server and needs to be patched via upgrade to win2003. Out side influence indeed. -- 20 min reading logs on a *NIX box, 10 min patching software on a *NIX box, half a day recovering an MS workstations data after massive infection, priceless. | |
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join:2002-08-05 Dunfermline, IL | Re: It's sad... That's exactly the thread I just went looking for - I specifically remembered his 'won't happen again' comment. | |
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Thanks to all the folks who posted here about just changing my router's dns servers. Changed 'em, saved the settings, rebooted my computer and I'm happening!
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join:2001-04-11 Pittsburgh, PA | I switched my DNS servers over to a local ISP based in the Pittsburgh area. Hopefully I won't have anymore problems. | |
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join:2002-10-10 Salem, OR | Just called comcast they said With in 2 to 3 hours (It's 8:53 pst time ) the DNS problem should be fixed there working on it now. every day is getting to be really ***king annoying lol | |
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join:2004-08-24 Edmonton, AB
| Re: It's sad... said by MillenniumZE :Just called comcast they said With in 2 to 3 hours (It's 8:53 pst time ) the DNS problem should be fixed there working on it now. every day is getting to be really ***king annoying lol Just think how I feel repeating the same thing to customers 110+ times in a 3.5 hour period. :+/
P.S. I'm gonna grab some throat lozenges, just in case it happens again tomorrow. | |
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join:2004-11-14 Atlanta, GA edit: April 12th, @10:44PM
| Level3 DNS servers I wonder why Level3 don't get pissed off with all the people using their servers. -- 30Mbit makes 6Mbit look like dialup around here. | |
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join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA | Re: Level3 DNS servers Why should they? Actually it's good PR. | |
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join:2003-07-17 Holyoke, MA
| Can you hear me now? No, not if you're a Comcast Customer. Their internal departments do not talk to one another in any way. Level3 won't even notice it, until either they suddenly ask themselves why the sudden server load or enough people call in.
Verizon on the other hand has been nothing but friendly and quick to respond. I would think just about any other company could do better, then how Comcast is doing now, as well as in their past. Support & Service should be the #1 concern with any ISP, but it doesn't seem to be with Comcast. As long as you pay your bill, they feel there is no problem.
I would not be surprised to find out all these DNS problems could be due to miss use of their servers some how. Their abuse department is more like a little kid who does not want to wake up for school... The time they do, it's to late. -- Want to know how to get a free mini mac? Send me a pm. | |
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join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA | Educate me What can cause a DNS server to hic up? And why can't Comcast just do a DHCP refresh to all subscribers so that they get functioning DNS server either like 4.2.2.1 etc when they know they have a long repair ahead of them? | |
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| Re: Educate me It is because 4.2.2.2 is not a Comcast DNS server. They do not support it or even have access to it. There is issues with using someone else's DNS servers, they must use their own. -- Apple rules!!! Get an iPod and iBook today, what's to lose? »www.apple.com | |
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join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA | Re: Educate me So why don't they have a backup DNS server on hot standby and they just take the active ones off and take their time to figure out how to fix for good? I would think such a national ISP should have back ups. Is my asking this to out of line? | |
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| Re: Educate me They have a 2nd server farm, and apparently that is having issues as well. That is usually the "back up". Both are messed up right now at the moment. I do believe they should have other backups just in case, but pushing A DHCP request wouldnt work unless your lease expired that day at that moment, which is rare since we have 7 day DHCP leases. -- Apple rules!!! Get an iPod and iBook today, what's to lose? »www.apple.com | |
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join:2003-07-17 Holyoke, MA
| DSL or another provider I had Comcast for the longest time. Only because they where the only high speed Internet service in my area. Through out that whole time, my system was hacked into and their abuse department slept and replied with auto email only. Less then 5min after the tech had hooked me up, it had already started. Thus I had not even had the chance to even use my Internet before the problem began.
Their policy on any problem, unless 1,000 or more people call up and report it is... "It's your fault." Even if they admit to themselves that they have a problem, it has to be your fault. So many people who reported the DNS problems got that reply before it got out of hand.
Also they like to double bill you. Do you own your own modem? You do? Prove it! On DSLreports.com we have users who where told to prove they own their own modems, who where getting billed for renting them. Others who where being billed for cable boxes they never had.
60.95 if you do not use any of their other services, but 15.00 off if you do. Either way, they'll get the money and that is all they really care about.
With Verizon it's only 29.95 for the same speed 3MB download, but you get a higher upload speed of 756kb. Comcast still uses 256kb max. Although I personally do not worry about my home upload speed.
My advice... Go with another provider if you can. I was lucky enough to have finally been able to sign up with Verizon. It took a while to get it at my address, but it's here & I'm not looking back. -- Want to know how to get a free mini mac? Send me a pm. | |
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join:2002-03-26 Jackson, MI
| Re: DSL or another provider Yes, Comcast has it's problems, but it must say something if I'm back with them after having SBC at 3008/512 for $29.95, the problem is at least Comcast's tech support is English speaking, while SBC's tends to be non-native English speaking personnel. And Comcast's max upload is now longer (at least in most areas) 256 Kb/s, it is now 384 Kb/s. | |
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join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA
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| I wouldn't go with Verizon unless it was a deal with Fios. Noway would I go back to having telco service from them. Comcast by and far been reliable for me locally because we got good techs in our area I think and the one is very responsive in the boards sometimes. I kind like learning about this technology and its problems and I wouldn't mind learning what is causing the DNS issue. | |
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| said by Phoenix__1 :With Verizon it's only 29.95 for the same speed 3MB download, but you get a higher upload speed of 756kb. Comcast still uses 256kb max. Although I personally do not worry about my home upload speed. My advice... Go with another provider if you can. I was lucky enough to have finally been able to sign up with Verizon. It took a while to get it at my address, but it's here & I'm not looking back. They use 384 now. About verizon you have to be within 10,00 feet of the CO to get the 3 meg. I don't use comcast's crappy dns servers, we have way to many hackers on the philly dns network and are abusing the dns servers here. I just use 4.2.2.1-4.2.2.6 level3 is much better than crappy comcast's dns servers. I have very little problems with comcast but if I do I just post here on bbr. Comcast's support is 3thrd party therefor they know nothing except for what's in front of them on the computer screen. | |
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join:2005-04-07 West Lafayette, IN
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| Um, it's your fault your system was compromised.
I would NEVER think to connect any of my computers to the internet without a NAT box of some sort.
Once just for humor I let my girlfriend connect directly to her DSL. It wasn't 30 minutes later that the lights were going nuts because the machine had joined some bot army.
Do this for a secure system (Although its relative because this applies to XP) •Get a router - I can't stress the importance of this enough!! •only install the updates that will install on install whatever active-x plugins you need and then DISABLE active-x downloading entirely •Create a User account (or limited as the account wizard likes to call it) and make that your daily use account. - Do not use a full privileged account unless you know of EVERY program that has the potential to run on your computer •Don't go to free porn sites, do any kind of searches for free screensavers or go to shady ringtone sites.
Basically, once your computer is no longer able to be reached from the outside (thanks to the router) and internet explorer is patched against most common exploits (because of the pre SP1 updates), you should have very few problems unless you have a hobby that involves kazaa, actually listening to websites that claim you have spyware, or ruining privacy for the sheer joy of it.
Doing that ought to solve about 98% of "comcasts" issues | |
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join:2003-07-17 Holyoke, MA
| Re: If your system was compromised..... said by Fluker :Um, it's your fault your system was compromised. I would NEVER think to connect any of my computers to the internet without a NAT box of some sort. Once just for humor I let my girlfriend connect directly to her DSL. It wasn't 30 minutes later that the lights were going nuts because the machine had joined some bot army. Do this for a secure system (Although its relative because this applies to XP) • Get a router - I can't stress the importance of this enough!! •only install the updates that will install on install whatever active-x plugins you need and then DISABLE active-x downloading entirely •Create a User account (or limited as the account wizard likes to call it) and make that your daily use account. - Do not use a full privileged account unless you know of EVERY program that has the potential to run on your computer •Don't go to free porn sites, do any kind of searches for free screensavers or go to shady ringtone sites. Basically, once your computer is no longer able to be reached from the outside (thanks to the router) and internet explorer is patched against most common exploits (because of the pre SP1 updates), you should have very few problems unless you have a hobby that involves kazaa, actually listening to websites that claim you have spyware, or ruining privacy for the sheer joy of it. Doing that ought to solve about 98% of "comcasts" issues Sounds simple, but wrong.
1.) Had router 2.) Had up to date OS (Windows XP) 3.) Had up to date firewall 4.) Set max setting on firewall 5.) Had up to date ant-virus 6.) Had max setting to anti-virus 7.) Had anit-spyware 8.) Had anti-adware 9.) Added 32 letters, number, spaces, and sybols for password on all accounts 10.) Turned off guest account
A) Problem started from the moment my pc was connected to comcast (before the tech even left the house) B) Reported problem to Comcast Abuse for 1yr C) No reply from abuse for 7 months D) Took 1yr for them to finally act on the matter E) Hacker was using Comcast networks, so it was their problem D) Removed Comcast and problem has never happen again. -- Want to know how to get a free mini mac? Send me a pm. | |
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join:2005-01-26 Vancouver, WA
| Re: If your system was compromised..... this coming from someone that has this " Want to know how to get a free mini mac? Send me a pm" as thier signature??? I'm no fan of comcast but I find that people who f up thier computers usually either blame the crappy computer or something else.. In your case Comcast... | |
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@68.52.x.x | Comcast Speeds are actually 4Mbps Down and 384k up for silver and 6 Mbps Down and 768k up for the Gold Package. if youre gonna flame do it right and dont slander. | |
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join:2000-10-01 Broomall, PA
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| Re: Educate me You know I would think that DHCP, DNS, Email, Newsgroup those kind of services that been around for a while for any ISP would be the last to go wrong just because I thought that knowledge in those things would be rock solid and just work because they have them down pat. I guess I am wrong or the ISP has some new IT people just learning the ropes. | |
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| Re: Educate me said by neftv :You know I would think that DHCP, DNS, Email, Newsgroup those kind of services that been around for a while for any ISP would be the last to go wrong just because I thought that knowledge in those things would be rock solid and just work because they have them down pat. I guess I am wrong or the ISP has some new IT people just learning the ropes. You'd be wrong. Core services such as Email, DNS and Newsgroups are all fairly esoteric skill sets. They become particularly challenging when you run any of them with any level of scale and/or complexity.
Never confuse the apparent ease of doing things on your home network (or even a small office) with what it takes to provide a service to thousands or millions of users.
-tom -- "Some people have morals, standards and ideals about quality, but I'm an American: I couldn't care less." --Tony Pierce (paraphrased) | |
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join:2001-08-30 Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| The main problem is that the DNS servers seem to stop responding. Previously Comcast had multiple DNS servers throughout the country. They thought it would be a good idea to consolidate all these servers into a handful (probably to save money). Unfortunately this is what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket. --
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| Re: Educate me said by Morac :The main problem is that the DNS servers seem to stop responding. Previously Comcast had multiple DNS servers throughout the country. They thought it would be a good idea to consolidate all these servers into a handful (probably to save money). Unfortunately this is what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket. You sure they actually cut down on the number of name servers and didn't simply put them all behind a geographic redirector type of network appliance?
-tom -- "Some people have morals, standards and ideals about quality, but I'm an American: I couldn't care less." --Tony Pierce (paraphrased) | |
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join:2001-08-30 Riverside, NJ
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| Re: Educate me said by nixen :You sure they actually cut down on the number of name servers and didn't simply put them all behind a geographic redirector type of network appliance? I don't believe they did since every Comcast user now has the same ip addresses for the primary and secondary DNS servers. If it was using a redirection the ip addresses would change depending on the location. --
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join:2003-11-30 Bryn Mawr, PA
| Well the DHCP Server is a national setup meaning if you were to take your subscribed modem with you to any other comcast location IT WILL CONNECT AND WORK. Meaning Arizona California and or New Jersey if you like lived in PA or VA or Florida. Meaning your modem will take maybe 2 mins to locate the home DNS DHCP server from your hometown node then it will release it to the local DHCP DNS server of your current local. Its ease of system and easier for portabilility. | |
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@comcast.net
| Set your DNS servers to your choice (4.2.2.2 / 4.2.2.3). DHCP will assign your IP and have no affect on your DNS servers. As Kilted Freak said...
"Your DNS servers' IPs have no effect on yours (and vice versa). The only time the one or the other counts is if there are access controls in place." | |
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join:2002-04-15 Tacoma, WA
| hmm..... I still don't understand why not to run DNS server through Load balancers. Cluster DNS servers and forward block of IP's to one of lets eight servers. That way for times when server is going out just take it out of rotation without having customers forced into swapping IP's. It would add a bit of response time, but really boost redundancy. Correct me if I am wrong.... | |
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join:2001-08-14 Layton, UT
| Re: "the problem will not happen again"....right? WTF ComCrap? I call in about this new outage, and try to get some credit for it and the last one, they say you have to call back when service is restored. All I can say is I had Qwest dsl with xmission for over 2 years with out a single outage. I think it might be time to cal QWEST AGAIN!!!!!!! | |
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join:2005-02-11 Davie, FL | Re: "the problem will not happen again"....right? Comcast billing told me they "would only issue a credit had you lost all connection to the Internet for a period of 24 hours or more." | |
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@comcast.net
| mezner said:
All I can say is I had Qwest dsl with xmission for over 2 years with out a single outage. I think it might be time to cal QWEST AGAIN!!!!!!!
You are one of the lucky few.. ANYONE that has ANY experience with Qwest in the masses knows that Qwest by NO means runs a realiable network. They have more DSL outtages than did cable just 20 years ago.
Qwest history will prove you otherwise.. however, I am able to know that some people can run without problems with others having continual problems.
But, having worked for Qwest before and with MANY seasoned veterans with Qwest, I will tell you that the Q network is NOT the greatest by far.. not to mention that they are know for this in the industry. | |
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@comcast.net
| sonofjay said: Comcast engineers have resolved the issue that affected most of it's customers yesterday, and there should be no repeats
I think you put the wrong emphasis on the wrong word.. Its nice that you are THAT perfect that you NEVER make mistakes or experience issues yourself.
By the way... Glad you put your money on the word NO instead of SHOULD...
Really, get real. | |
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join:2003-06-14 Orem, UT
| ComCast strikes again Well I'm glad to be moving away from Comcast. I just set my router to use a different set of DNS servers since some site just were not coming up while others were. The site that refused to come up with the comcast DNS servers is xbox.com which of course was having no problems. | |
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  oldTDNickell Premium join:2000-12-19 Federal Way, WA | Damage Control! I believe Comcast has some damage control to deal with again.:(:p | |
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join:2003-06-14 Orem, UT
| Re: Damage Control! They tried that when I told them to turn off my service for my phone. It has been having issues just like the DNS servers & I can't even do anything about that issue. They even offered me a free month to stay with them. My only problem is that I can't stand a free month of a worthless service. I will only go back if they are the only choice where I live. | |
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  KeepOnRockin Music Lover Forever Premium join:2002-11-08 Beaverton, OR edit: April 13th, @12:19AM
| No Problems for Me I use Comcast and did not notice any DNS issues tonight.
I guess the trouble only some people had.
Nevermind. I did run into DNS issues after posting this. lol | |
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join:2002-01-10 Valparaiso, IN | Thank's BBR ! Back online thank's to the info from this forum. | |
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@comcast.net
| DNS outage and sched maint Interesting that the service was restored 11 minutes after the scheduled maintenance was completed.
Scheduled Maintenance - Completed at 4/12/2005 11:25:49 PM EDT
(CENTRAL CALIFORNIA/YUBAHE - Comcast Engineers will be performing network maintenance in your area. This may temporarily affect your Internet connection. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. This outage was logged at : 4/12/2005 8:00:00 AM EDT.)
General Outage - Resolved at 4/12/2005 11:36:33 PM EDT
(CENTRAL CALIFORNIA/ekgca.ca - Connection to the Internet is currently unavailable. Our technicians are aware of the situation and are working to resolve the issue. This outage was logged at : 4/12/2005 1:26:00 PM EDT.) | |
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@comcast.net
| Interesting that the service was restored 11 minutes after the scheduled maintenance was completed.
Scheduled Maintenance - Completed at 4/12/2005 11:25:49 PM EDT
(CENTRAL CALIFORNIA/YUBAHE - Comcast Engineers will be performing network maintenance in your area. This may temporarily affect your Internet connection. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. This outage was logged at : 4/12/2005 8:00:00 AM EDT.)
General Outage - Resolved at 4/12/2005 11:36:33 PM EDT
(CENTRAL CALIFORNIA/ekgca.ca - Connection to the Internet is currently unavailable. Our technicians are aware of the situation and are working to resolve the issue. This outage was logged at : 4/12/2005 1:26:00 PM EDT.) | |
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join:2005-03-10 Denver, CO | in the middle of an outage right now
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join:2001-04-08 Cranford, NJ | Re: Comcarp too bad i'm not offered optimum online in my neighborhood. to think of it, very satisfied customers with Opt are just 2 freakin towns away.. WHY'D WE GET STUCK WITH COMCAST?!?! | |
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