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join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | Is this Some Kind of Joke? You have to be kidding me. | |
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Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Is this Some Kind of Joke? hmm technicly though VOIP is a data usage and doesnt violate the TOS as far as the FCC classifies VOIP atm its data not voice.
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greatway
@optonline.net | thats a great way to lose customers... good going there.. | |
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mlbSAE
join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH
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| hmmm... keyword in there... "You many not use any alternate connection or client software with roaming or voice capability in connection with this service. The Earthlink WIRELESS enhances access service is for data only. Violation of this part of the agreement will result in an additional charge of $0.95 per minute of unauthorized voice usage and suspension or cancellation of your account."
They originally had a rule against all VoIP, but changed the wording to just their wireless network a few months ago.
And not to be an a-hole, but this has been discussed many times on the Earthlink forum in the past. Why is it headline news now? | |
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needforspeed59
Cruise Ship Just Passing Through
join:2001-05-02
Glendale, AZ | Re: hmmm... keyword in there... Well, it is not old news to me. I find this interesting and appreciate it being brought up. Thanks BBR!
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | Just to make sure I'm getting this straight. I can use whatever VOIP service I want and Earthlink won't pull any extra charges or terminations on me (provided it's not on their wireless services)? | |
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| averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ | What about voice and video chatting through ms messenger?
When will it end - Dog and cats living together - oh my. | |
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Brianv5
Low Level Functionary
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join:2001-01-20
Keyser, WV |  Keep limiting that unlimited connection boys!
That unlimited fat pipe to the internet is getting more and more useless.
Everyone will start getting their own T1!
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YeeHaw
join:2002-11-17
cloud 9
| Re: Keep limiting that unlimited connection boys! said by Brianv5  :Everyone will start getting their own T1! No need, just get Speakeasy, or Megapath. BS not included.
Though I understand that not everyone is so lucky.
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anonpronman
@dsl.net | Not @ over 1000 per month in most areas..
They are killing the internet slowly. | |
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join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
| said by Brianv5 :Everyone will start getting their own T1! A T1 is still a lot more expensive.
It seems that a lot of people expect that "unlimited" broadband for a (comparatively) low price and high dowload speeds is going to be equivalent to a T1, and then are "surprised" and even indignant that it turns out not to be the same. | |
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Raptor
Not a Dumptruck
join:2001-10-21
London, ON
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·Bell Sympatico
| Pwn'd $0.95 a minute? haha. 1-900-Earthlink? For $0.95 a minute, you had better be talking to someone, um...fun.
Evil corportations.
So does that include client software such as MSN that can be used to talk? Or does that get switched to data since its not VOIP?
Either way, wtf. | |
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Julio
Bachatero y Que?
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join:2003-03-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | huh? if i read correctly its for their wireless service "The Earthlink wireless enhances access service is for data only." does not say earthlink cable.
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Mike
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
clubs: 
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Alltel Axcess
| Broaden the sphere That means for gamers, UT2k4, Teamspeak, Ventrillo, all video chat, apple iChat AV, and other misc things where voice is embedded in the program.
Technically, if you want to stretch it, all forms of spoken language ie; mp3s, .wav, streaming feeds are illegal.
Deviants!
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| mlbSAE
join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH
·DONet
| Re: Broaden the sphere I called them on it before they reworded it to Earthlink Wireless (hence my RR connection instead of Earthlink). I asked them if my XBox Live was banned since it had voice communications. After talking to a couple of managers who weren't sure I just said I would get Road Runner instead. I went back a few months later and they had reworded the ToS. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Earthlink VOIP? Okay I read the TOS and had enough questions about it to want to get to the bottom of it (there were no comments here at the time). In my research I was looking at Earthlink's VOIP services and it made me want to compare it to the service I wanted to get this month (VoicePulse). The price and levels of service is right. The international calling rates are lower too. The thing is I haven't seen anything about Earthlink VOIP here in BBR. Anybody have any experience of information on it?
Yeah I got suckered by the TOS, but the end result might have gotten be a better VOIP plan. Thoughts? | |
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| mlbSAE
join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH | Re: Earthlink VOIP? I belive Earthlink VoIP is nothing but repackaged Vonage. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Re: Earthlink VOIP? thats true. the sites are even have the same lay out and everything.
It's Elink's way of "out-sourcing" | |
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TheMadSwede
Premium
join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| Great title "Read your TOS". And if I don't like it, then what? Back to dialup, right? Or spring for a T1 or a frac? FABULOUS.
So - why can they have such silly TOSs? (asked rhetorically)
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yitz98
join:2003-05-06
ISRAEL | DATAquote:
access service is for data only
Am I wrong, but even VOIP is technically voice converted into DATA!?!? | |
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JPCass
join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO
| More disclosure issues for the VOIP providers First 911 may not work, and then it may turn out that your phone service might not necessarily work - or could stop working - as well. It poses an interest question as to whether issues like this point to VOIP needing some of the same sorts of regulation to which other consumer products are subject.
Automobile manufacturers and financers, pharmaceutical companies, etc., are all required by regulation to disclose various major caveats to their products. VOIP providers are getting away with selling a relatively new technical product to the masses, and advertising it as if it's a cheaper equivalent to copper POTS service. If there are buried disclosures that their service might not necessarily work with your internet service - or might suddenly be blocked by your ISP - such major issues are nowhere obvious in the advertising as, is required for other products. | |
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| nozzer
join:2004-06-25
Waltham, MA | Re: More disclosure issues for the VOIP providers blah blah 911 blah blah regulation blah blah All these things are disclosed.
Now, get BACK into your cage mr Qwest - thank you | |
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
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·RoadRunner Cable
| Earthlink Wireless 95 cents a minute??? I wonder if they can legally do that and bill your credit card for their new "fine?"
When you compare VOIP to streaming video and audio, which they're not complaining about, the bandwidth usage is much less. In any event, it's still a long way's off where you'll see more people yakking on VOIP at a hotspot, than on their cell phones.
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pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
Premium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
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| Re: This isn't about cable at all... I'm beginning to think that bloggers can't read (see the gmail address). After all, most of these things are started by bloggers and then other bloggers copy those bloggers and then even more bloggers start copying them. Then someone who actually cares to read it sees that there is nothing terribly interesting about it. Actually I woudn't be surprised if AP found about it and sent it out and Reuters copied it and the rest of the mass media followed through with it. It's remarkable how the mass media and blogs are run in much of the same way.
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Read Your TOS
This isn't about cable at all...