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Does it make Comcast too big?
(old news - 01:30PM Sunday Apr 10 2005)
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Comcast's joint bid with Time Warner to purchase the bankrupt Adelphia Communications Corp.'s cable system last week faces a potential roadblock, reports the Washington Post (Registration Required). Resulting from the 1992 Cable Act, the FCC set a limit that no single company could own cable systems reaching more than '30 percent' of the nation's customers. Four years ago a federal court threw out the 30 percent limit, stating that the FCC's prior limits had not been adequately supported, leaving the industry without an ownership limit. Comcast currently services about 29 percent of all U.S. homes paying for basic cable, according to industry statistics.

The addition of Adelphia cable systems could place Comcast in excess of the national ownership limit, if the FCC were to re-establish the earlier limit thrown out by the federal court. This could give Comcast too much power in deciding which shows make it to cable, consumer advocates say.

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Derspankster
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Does it make Comcast too big

I hope so. As a current Adelphia customer, and from what I've read about Comcast, I do not want Comcast as my provider!
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gpancner

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Re: Does it make Comcast too big

Go Comcast!!! The best cable provider I've ever subscribed to over 20 years(6 total companies). Had DirecTV - hated it, and it cost more than Comcast. Have seen DISH, and does their equipment seem cheap (like their subscribers - never met a non-whiney dish network customer).

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Re: Does it make Comcast too big

said by gpancner See Profile:

Had DirecTV - hated it, and it cost more than Comcast.
It is obvious that you have NOT had Direct - TV anytime soon. I was paying over $80 per month for COmcast for the channels I like to watch. Discovery channels, TLC, and others of the like.. I pay $45 per month to Direct TV for the same channels. I am not a movie channel subscriber and the 4 room setup I purchased was free.

So just tell me how it is more expensive to have Direct TV than Comcast??
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gpancner

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Re: Does it make Comcast too big

DirecTV$45/ mth 1st TV $5/each of your 3 extra TV's Comcast $49/mth(incl.Tax)unlimited TV's

= $60/mth vs. Comcast $49

DirecTV DVR $11/mth vs. Comcast DVR $5/mth
DireTV HDTV $11/mth vs. Comcast HDTV $5/mth
DirecWay Internet $59.99/mth vs. Comcast Internet $45/mth

now go back to school and take a math class.

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Re: Does it make Comcast too big

said by gpancner See Profile:

DirecTV$45/ mth 1st TV $5/each of your 3 extra TV's Comcast $49/mth(incl.Tax)unlimited TV's

= $60/mth vs. Comcast $49

DirecTV DVR $11/mth vs. Comcast DVR $5/mth
DireTV HDTV $11/mth vs. Comcast HDTV $5/mth
DirecWay Internet $59.99/mth vs. Comcast Internet $45/mth

now go back to school and take a math class.
DirecTV = $41.95/month
3 Additional Recievers = $14.97
Total (before tax.): $56.92/month
DirecTV DVR = $4.99/month
DirecTV HDTV = $10/month
DirecWay = $59.95/month with equipment purchased upfront ($300/average) or $99.95/month.

Comcast = $49/month
Comcast DVR = $5/month
Comcast Internet = $45/month

And to the irrelevance of all of this? There it is folks! Each person has their favorites, no need to compare services, value, etc. Personally, I like DirecTV, but I will be switching back to Cox when I move to Gloucester because DirecTV and Verizon Online DSL costs just about the same for Phone, DSL, and TV service.

JakCrow

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said by gpancner See Profile:

DirecTV$45/ mth 1st TV $5/each of your 3 extra TV's Comcast $49/mth(incl.Tax)unlimited TV's

= $60/mth vs. Comcast $49

DirecTV DVR $11/mth vs. Comcast DVR $5/mth
DireTV HDTV $11/mth vs. Comcast HDTV $5/mth
DirecWay Internet $59.99/mth vs. Comcast Internet $45/mth

now go back to school and take a math class.
Whereas you obviously went to the politician's school for math. Why else would you fudge the numbers?
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said by gpancner See Profile:

DirecTV$45/ mth 1st TV $5/each of your 3 extra TV's Comcast $49/mth(incl.Tax)unlimited TV's

= $60/mth vs. Comcast $49

DirecTV DVR $11/mth vs. Comcast DVR $5/mth
DireTV HDTV $11/mth vs. Comcast HDTV $5/mth
DirecWay Internet $59.99/mth vs. Comcast Internet $45/mth

now go back to school and take a math class.
Yeah comcast has unlimited free tv's but you get only basic cable on them you want hbo on all your tv's your paying for an extra box.

Dishnetwork I pay roughly $100 and get almost every channel they have to offer with 1 hdtv receiver and 3 normal receivers. Not to mention i get free hdtv package for 6 months from them. And when it goes away im still paying less then comcast in every aspect.

I only use comcast for cable internet and even that is debatable as to if I actually am using it.
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Galvage

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Comcast= 50ish a month plus 5 bucks a TV if you want any premium channels on them. Digital cable is cheaper than analog cable. Oh yeah thier internet service is among the worst I've seen out there for reliability. I've got friends on SBC and covad who have way more reliability than I do.

Normal sales strategy.
Both the customer and the seller walk away happy

Comcast Sales strategy.
Comcast uses thier position as a monopoly would and charges to the limit of what the customer is willing to pay then ontop of that doesn't provide the customer service that really should go along with that.

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said by gpancner See Profile:

now go back to school and take a math class.
I think you are the one that needs to go back to math class.

I will admit when I am wrong. And I was wrong about the total cost of the Comcast bill. With the package that matches Direct TV for the channels I listed and like to watch, my total Comcast bill was $69.30 for the Digital Premier package with only ONE receiver.

Digital Premier ------ $19.95
Standard Cable ------ $40.89
DCT Remote ------ $ .30
DCT Converter ------ $ 4.50

Subtotal ------ $65.54

Franchise Fee ------ $ 3.60
Regulatory Fee ------ $ .06
Subtotal ------ $ 3.66

Grand Total ------ $69.30

Here is my Direct TV cost:

TOTAL CHOICE PLUS-no locals Monthly $42.99
Additional Receiver $ 4.99

Grand Total $47.98

And this is with TWO recivers in my house not just one.

So maybe YOU had better go back and take a math class BOZO!!!

As a note: The Direct TV costs quoted are AFTER their last price increase. The Comcast costs quoted are from back in October BEFORE their last price increse. So at this point, Comcast would be even HIGHER thatn what I am quoting.
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the dozer
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said by gpancner See Profile:

DirecTV$45/ mth 1st TV $5/each of your 3 extra TV's Comcast $49/mth(incl.Tax)unlimited TV's

= $60/mth vs. Comcast $49

DirecTV DVR $11/mth vs. Comcast DVR $5/mth
DireTV HDTV $11/mth vs. Comcast HDTV $5/mth
DirecWay Internet $59.99/mth vs. Comcast Internet $45/mth

now go back to school and take a math class.
And you want us to pay more!!!!Gee Whiz!!! But then again..you get what you pay for....

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maxwellnj

join:2003-08-15
Blackwood, NJ

I've got to agree. I've been a Comcast TV subscriber since 1991 and a Comcast HSI subscriber since the @Home days. I realize everyone has different experiences that color their opinion of a company, but this is one of the best companies I've ever dealt with. Their service has been uniformly excellent, as has their customer service (on those few occasions when I've needed to call).

sbdjaro
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1992rules

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the 1992 rules no longer apply since there is competition from satellite providers 2 of them... and big rbocs that will eventually be in every part of the country with video.... now there could be some consent decrees tha only allow ownership where an rboc is providing video services... as one caveat to ownership beyond 30% but its not really necessary

threnody

join:2002-03-11
Colorado Springs, CO

I too have been an Adelphia customer for over 5 years and have had very little trouble with them. I used to want to be a Comcast customer, years ago, because back then, their service rocked and they offered broadband way before anyone else did in my geographical areas back then. But, based on what I've been reading over the past year, Comcast is doing their customers serious disservices; their cost structure is worse than Adelphia's in some cases; and their customer support seems pretty bad (I've never had a single problem with Adelphia's support in all this time for example).

But... and there is always at least one... Adelphia has made some poor decisions (and to be fair: I have not seen a single communications company - regardless of domain - not make poor decisions; every company is destined to as they grow; plain and simple). The problems always boil down to one fundamental: processes (or lack thereof). Processes that are poorly implemented, not well defined enough or simply just not enough - along with a lack of a process for process improvement (I could go on and on and on.... starting to sound like CMMI? It should).

Then there's the pricing of cable: it's bad, all over the board. And the digital cable stuff: not as good quality as I had hoped many years ago, and I have not seen any improvements....

jubangy
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Re: Does it make Comcast too big

I have to agree, the cable and the digital cable is crappy for the most part. If Dish and Direct manage to get locals all over the country and in the markets where there currently not able too I think that will put a real demand on the cable companies to improve their act. That is probaly why the dish providers are having problems getting some of these local markets, the cable companies are scared they might have to get off their ass and do something to improve there shit.

Mactron
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said by Derspankster See Profile:

I hope so. As a current Adelphia customer, and from what I've read about Comcast, I do not want Comcast as my provider!
As a Comca$t escapee, believe me you DON'T want Comca$t in your life. Two tin cans and a waxed string are better than that joke of a company. Fingers crossed for you.
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TheMadSwede
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Re: Does it make Comcast too big

said by Mactron See Profile:

As a Comca$t escapee...
I like the way you used a dollar sign to represent the "s" when typing the name of a large corporation. That's neat! I've never seen anyone do that before.
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rljensen3

join:2005-04-11
Placentia, CA

As a current subscriber to Comcast in Reading, PA. I prefer it. With DVR, On-Demand, and cable internet I may pay a little higher than average but its worth every penny. You can save a couple bucks by buying your own cable modem up front than your bill isn't as much. I used to live in California and was also an Adelphia subscriber and they were horrible in fact they just added On-Demand a few months ago. (Probably a precursor to the buyout) Where as I've had it for 2 years.

I say if the features and channels are there that a person likes than by all means the deal is a good thing. I have read the posts and heard the comcast horror stories but I personally am happy with the service.

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Dave in Tampa

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No, not at all. I've been an Adelphia customer for over a year, shoved down our throats from a bogus deal with our HOA. I used to be a Comcast customer in NJ. Now I live in the Tampa maetro area, and the service stinks to high heaven!

LiamJunket
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I hope Comcast gets bigger

I hope the 30% rule is NOT reinstated. As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me. Or at least smaller increases.;)
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richk_1957
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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

said by LiamJunket See Profile:

The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get.
That's why I am for the 30% limit. They get bigger & bigger and they make they make the decisions, not you. Sure, as any company gets larger, they will be able to cut prices, but at what cost?

(I may be biased a little in this as I am not a Comcast customer, wouldn't be, don't like the way they do business & treat their customers)
gpancner

join:2001-09-27
Nine Mile Falls, WA

Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

not a customer and don't like the way they do business & treat their customers?
how would you know? seems like something a liberal would say. (i.e. do as i say, not as i do)

richk_1957
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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

said by gpancner See Profile:

not a customer and don't like the way they do business & treat their customers?
how would you know? seems like something a liberal would say. (i.e. do as i say, not as i do)
I'm going by posts I have read here at BBR about them, plus what people in work who actually have Comcast service have said regarding them.
kiantech

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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

okay yeah so if a company owns a large portion of custormers what do you think they are going to do, lower the prices or take advantage of their monopoly and raise their prices. Use your heads and look at history, that's not how things work these days.

richk_1957
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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

I think you misunderstand my post. I said that they will be able to cut prices, not that they do. It's true, that as a company gets larger, more revenue comes in, they should be able to cut prices. Sadly, most [almost all] of them are greedy and don't do this. They offer discounts [these days, bundled discounts - or promotions], but in the long run, because more than the usual of people sign up, the company is actually making more money and if the discount/promotion/bundle doesn't work out, they are so big they can take a loss & not worry.

Historically, you're right & I agree with you.

JakCrow

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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

Ever since I dropped cable, Comcast has been sending me mailers all the time. The latest one was the one for the first 3 months at $39.95. It used to be $29.95, and that was less than 6 months ago. Of course, they forget to tell you that after those 3 months, the price goes up about to about $70, and that's without premium channels. The prices are ridiculous.

Fatal Vector

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You seriously think that as they get bigger and get into more of a monopoly position they will lower prices? You need to wake up and guzzle some coffee.

FTCXtreme

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I hope comcast dies to be honest. THEY SUCK

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said by LiamJunket See Profile:

As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me.
yeah right. show me one case in which a huge corporation gave its customers discounts after they save a ton of money by using their power to get volume savings. IT NEVER HAPPENS.
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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

Wal-Mart?
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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

said by two cents:

Wal-Mart?
Dunno if that fits the same shoe because that is how those volume discount chains work.

but none the less it i a decent example and they were hiring illegals for awhile and not passing on the savings
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csnewbie

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i agree, you won't get savings. comcast sucks.

i was paying $42 with ATTBI, then comcast bought ATTBI, and my internet bill shot up to $ 57.95

Voyager2K2

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said by morbo See Profile:

said by LiamJunket See Profile:

As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me.
yeah right. show me one case in which a huge corporation gave its customers discounts after they save a ton of money by using their power to get volume savings. IT NEVER HAPPENS.
So very true.
The only ones that will see the savings are the share holders.
Comcast has already proven they can price themselves above the competition and remain healthy.
If this deal goes through Fios is my only hope to keep pricing down.

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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

said by Voyager2K2 See Profile:

So very true.
The only ones that will see the savings are the share holders.
Comcast has already proven they can price themselves above the competition and remain healthy.
If this deal goes through Fios is my only hope to keep pricing down.
Thats because the competition often offers an inferior product. In my area verizon DSL is cheaper than Comcast HSI, but the service is flaky.
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Comcast discounts now that will be the day.For the most part thay are way over priced IMHO.I think thay should Lower(I have the 5 meg plan) the high speed 4 meg price to $19.95 for every one.I would have no problem signing up for a year at that price. I think that would knock out AOL,Net Zero and the like who in ther right mind would pay $24.00 or $14.95 for sub 56k speeds when you can get 4 meg for $19.95.If Comcast wants to be top dog then do what is right lower the price and and grow faster....

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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

But it's not primarily about what you the customer wants, it never has been, never will be as "the customer is always right" is a terrible buisness model that no one has ever followed (even those who said they did). It's about striking a balance between what the company can afford and what the customer is willing to pay. But the careful balance is that if the company puts their prices too high above what they can afford than someone else is more likely to swoop in and offer a lower price.

That's what verizon did.
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said by rtherocks See Profile:

Comcast discounts now that will be the day.For the most part thay are way over priced IMHO.I think thay should Lower(I have the 5 meg plan) the high speed 4 meg price to $19.95 for every one.I would have no problem signing up for a year at that price. I think that would knock out AOL,Net Zero and the like who in ther right mind would pay $24.00 or $14.95 for sub 56k speeds when you can get 4 meg for $19.95.If Comcast wants to be top dog then do what is right lower the price and and grow faster....
I just hate how they offer $20 plans to new subs then ram the price up full bore. Why can't we all get the same deal. I mean jeez stop doing this crap give a cut across the board and maybe the lower price may actually draw in more people.
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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile:

said by rtherocks See Profile:

Comcast discounts now that will be the day.For the most part thay are way over priced IMHO.I think thay should Lower(I have the 5 meg plan) the high speed 4 meg price to $19.95 for every one.I would have no problem signing up for a year at that price. I think that would knock out AOL,Net Zero and the like who in ther right mind would pay $24.00 or $14.95 for sub 56k speeds when you can get 4 meg for $19.95.If Comcast wants to be top dog then do what is right lower the price and and grow faster....
I just hate how they offer $20 plans to new subs then ram the price up full bore. Why can't we all get the same deal. I mean jeez stop doing this crap give a cut across the board and maybe the lower price may actually draw in more people.
You can. Just call them up, tell them you're going to leave, and ask to be transfered to the retention department. Tell them xother company is offering $20/mo for six months, and they will say "hold on a second let me check to see if I can match that.." which of course they can b/c they're already offering it to new customers. Done.

J D McDorce
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said by rtherocks See Profile:

I think thay should Lower(I have the 5 meg plan) the high speed 4 meg price to $19.95 for every one.I would have no problem signing up for a year at that price. I think that would knock out AOL,Net Zero and the like who in ther right mind would pay $24.00 or $14.95 for sub 56k speeds when you can get 4 meg for $19.95.If Comcast wants to be top dog then do what is right lower the price and and grow faster....
Growth is good, but not at the expense of revenue. As an example, Comcast had roughly 7 million HSI customers at the end of 2004 and we assume a rate cut of $23 per subscriber ($42.95 to $19.95). That equates to $483 million of quarterly revenue. Assume that cost to provide HSI is $12.95 per subscriber (in reality, it could be higher, could be lower). In order to offset the $483 million of quarterly revenue loss from the rate decrease, under this example Comcast would have to add 23 million subscribers (bringing the total to 30 million). That is just to break even.

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If Comcast gets bigger then the only one to win is Comcast. If you think that you will get "better deals and lower costs" then you are seriously deluded.

I am never a big fan of government regulation. I think we have too much government which leads to too much inefficiency, too much waste, too much corruption and on and on. But sometimes some regulation is needed to protect the general public from large corporation taking advantage.

In an ideal world, we the customers should be able to control Comcast since we can vote with our wallets. Unfortunately, in some areas people do not have a choice so they can't, in essence, vote. If large companies like Comcast are able to stifle or buy up smaller companies then there is no hope for the consumer.

I would like to see an outside party buy up Adelphia and fix her up. If I had the money I would. But alas....

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said by LiamJunket See Profile:

I hope the 30% rule is NOT reinstated. As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me. Or at least smaller increases.;)
Or the more they jack up the price....

threnody

join:2002-03-11
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Bigger does not mean better. And it certainly does not mean lower pricing for the end consumer in any way shape or form (but it almost always does for the company). It is competition that benefits the consumer, not monopolies.

JakCrow

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said by LiamJunket See Profile:

I hope the 30% rule is NOT reinstated. As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger. The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me. Or at least smaller increases.;)
'Cept there's this little issue of rates not getting lower. The television industy is the only "network" industry where the network provider pays the content providers to carry there material. It's ridiculous.

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said by LiamJunket See Profile:

As a customer, I hope Comcast gets even bigger.
Me too!

J D McDorce
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said by LiamJunket See Profile:

The more power they have over the content providers the better deals(read volume discounts) they will get. And better deals and lower costs for Comcast means lower costs for me.
In December 2002, Comcast went from having 8.5 million CATV subscribers to 21.3 million CATV subscribers. While the "synergies" from the purchase of AT&T Broadband were certainly used as a selling point for that deal back in 2002, I have seen nothing to suggest that Comcast subscribers were subjected to lower rate increases during the past two years (compared to the industry average) as a result of these "synergies." If adding 12.8 million subscribers through acquisition had a negligible effect, I doubt if adding 2 million more through this deal will have any positive impact on consumer cost. The value for Class B shareholders may be a different story.

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Re: I hope Comcast gets bigger


It's because you are paying for the aquisition with higher fees and prices. You dont think they are going to take a profti cut just for their customers, do you? The rich stockholders would have the boards head for lowering their take.
ltt75

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With Verizon starting up Video service this year. The 1992 Cable act is no longer valid. There will be sufficient competition. Customers will have a choice of serveral Video providers: Satelite, MaBell(Verizon/SBC/etc), or local cable company. Times have changed.

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I agree.

The bigger Comcast gets, the slower they move, opening the door wider and wider for Dish and Telco competition.

My only concern over the long-term is content ownership rights. I would hate to see Comcast getting additional "exclusive rights" to programming.

Of course after they got their hands on TechTV, it wasn't worth watching anymore anyway.
ltt75

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My only concern over the long-term is content ownership rights. I would hate to see Comcast getting additional "exclusive rights" to programming.

I agree on this point. they'll need to separate programming ownerships from video service distribution ownerships.
Newegg
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What about the Adelphia forum

Is it just going to get deleted and depending on who the former Adelphia customers have for their ISP being Comcast or TW they will post in the corresponding forum?
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hobgoblin
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Re: What about the Adelphia forum

Firstly its NOT a done deal, I have only seen speculation so far.
Secondly the process will take forever.
Thirdly as you appear to have Verizon Fios, I doubt it will concern you.

Hob
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Bluexenon

join:2004-05-27

Re: What about the Adelphia forum

Is there a geographical map of the united states that shows what companies service different cities in different states online??? It would be interesting to see what chunks the different providers run.

Voyager2K2

join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
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said by hobgoblin See Profile:

Firstly its NOT a done deal, I have only seen speculation so far.
Here's hoping it's not.
I wonder what the true feelings of Adelphia's board and shareholders, the creditors, the judge, and the FCC really are.
Too bad the consumers don't enter into this mix.

jubangy
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"Firstly its NOT a done deal, I have only seen speculation so far.
Secondly the process will take forever.
Thirdly as you appear to have Verizon Fios, I doubt it will concern you."

Hob

Nor does it concern you.

Keeping it real

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Man some of you may me sick!

I think it's funny how all of the Telco worshippers here can't wait for the day that the Telco swoops in and saves the day. (Let me remind you all how telco, just in the not too far past, was severly lashed out at because of they way they treated the consumer.) Remember the court ordered break up of Ma Bell?

You think the telephone companies are going to be any better? You think that their large business model is going to be any better than the large cable tv business model?

It's obvious from the amount of senceless whining that goes on here from the same handfull of people here that what you really want is a social society where everyone is on an even playing field.

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that every man woman and child has a god-given right to broadband access at a price you want to pay does it? All you whiners realize that it cost money to build all this future, state of the art broadband network don't you? Have ANY of you whiners opened your eyes and taken a look at the number of providers in the last 5 years alone that have gone under trying to deliver a product to you at a price "you want to pay?" (which is far less than the cost to operate such a network) Yea.. let's allow companies to price themselves right out of business to the point that the taxpayer has to subsidize these corporate giants into existance again. Wow! Higher taxes! Waaahoo!

Bottom line, if you don't like the price you pay for internet, if you don't like the price of television, then cancel you service, put up the FREE antenna and go back to the $9.99 NetZero dial up access and be happy for once.

Let's put it this way.. you want to play with the big toys, you have to pay.

One more note to all you "boo hoo, Comcast raised my internet fee when they bought AT&T"... first, the price didn't change for NON-CABLE TV customers. It was always about $10.00 more per month. You guys also focus on how it's "more expensive" to have just internet without TV. The PRICE FOR INTERNET BROADBAND IS THE $57.00 price, NOT the $42.00 price. If you can read, and I know you can, their rate cards specifically state that internet is $57.00, $42 IF you purchase cable. It's called bundling. Oh, news flash, Satellite has a broadband option. Look at their price?

Some of you here make me sick listening to you. Thank god I am smart enough to realize that you are a VERY small portion of the demo out there.. so much more than less and a percent.

Oh, and if you are wondering why I am so harsh? I used to like this site years ago when it started. It has been taken over by a handfull of (what seems) emotional, uneducated people that have no one else to listen to their unfounded and unrealistic compaints that they can only get the few others that agree with them here to listen!

Why don't you whiners stand back and re-read your own words in a few weeks - you just might see how stupid you really sound!

I have Comcast for my ISP. I have had Comcast for year! I have NEVER had a problem with this company. Maybe some of you have, but that's life. Not everything is perfect. (Take a look at yourselves sometime would ya) - I think that Comcast charges a respectable fee for what is offered. I also know that there is a cost involved in running a system. I also know they they have to pay their venders what they ask for as well which is a majority of what drives the cost. I also now know, after listening to you whiners, that companies like Comcast have to give away a bunch of "free" stuff to shut you up in the name of competition. Think about it.. NOTHING IS FREE! Next time you post that "cable raises 3.5% again" message.. just remember all those free repair visits on YOUR inside wiring (that is legally YOURS, not theirs) or the I want a free month service because of a few hours of down time crap that you guys pull... or the "cableman was 5 minutes late so I want it free crap!" And you wonder why rates rise? It cost money to run a system in the utopia way that the minority whiners here think it should be run!

I seriously can't understand you people sometime.

Oh,.. and since some of you can't comprehend some of my statements here, at the end of my post here, I would like to remind those handfull that I said SOME of you and refer mostly to the insessive WHINERS here.. NOT EVERYONE!

So, in closing, .... to some of you... wait for the big bell companies to come and save you.. I know for one that I wouldn't hold my breath! To this day, I have see MANY more problems in getting phone service to be static free and my DSL (when I had it) to stay up and running without error before I cancelled it after the typical support call would result in "it's your problem, sir, not ours!)

Enjoy your saviours!

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marky2306

join:2004-01-19
Ballwin, MO

This deal is more of a Time Warner Cable Deal

Comcast is in the deal to un-wind the 21% that they have in Time Warner Cable.

Comcast is only expected to get 2 million customers versus the 5 mil that Adelphia has. The article also states that Comcast's LA systems to go to Time Warner Cable as well, but if it is part of this deal or another deal later on.

»www.multichannel.com/article/CA5···ral=supp

Mark

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Re: This deal is more of a Time Warner Cable Deal

What I want to know is if the area around KC that is currently Comcast is going to then become TWC again. If so, I will be jumping for joy! When I lived in South KC and TWC was my provider I never had as many problems as I have had in the past 6 months with Comcast. Billing problems, service issues, the HD tuner that would hang and had to be reset, to the basic general, "oh you are in that market? Who cares?" when I call. Supposedly the deal should go down later this this year, but with this happening it could accelerate the process? CNet News.com had this story years ago »news.com.com/Time+Warner%2C+Comc···405.html
but not I have not read much else with a mention of KC and the two companies.
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Footix

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Go Comcast

I have Adelphia Cable but it's Suck because we don't have NBA TV, or NBA Packages. We need more channels
SKYWARP

join:2005-02-02
Portland, OR
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Re: Go Comcast

Comcast is a great cable company. They are profitable and investment worthy, they have continued to grow in difficult economic times, they hire in-house and provide good paying jobs with good benefits to A LOT of Americans, they poor money into local economies and donate money to local charity. . . .

. . .and they flat out provide the best services available. The internet is fast as hell and reliable, the cable packages have a lot of channels, they have good HD, they have On Demand, a new triple play with their VoIP, etc, etc, etc.

I don't give a crap if I pay $15 bucks more a month for that. I won't take the family to McDonalds for lunch on Saturday. Big -F-ing deal.

They raise my rates and have high prices in order to support their investors, their employees, their customers, and to continue to grow and enhance their services. . .or in other words continue to be a successful company.

There is a reason that Comcast is the largest cable company in the world. They're the best. I think that we forget what it means to be the best in this country. You have to make a lot of money to be the best as WELL as provide the best service. The kicker is, one rides on the other. If you don't make money and you try to compete in our market you fail. (i.e. ADELPHIA!!!!!)

I'll also offer for other's consideration that when we hear about a "bad customer experience" a good deal of blame for the situation usually falls on the customer and their misplaced sense of entitlement. To many people think that a service provider owes them something for being a customer. Something above and beyond what the services entail.

A perfect example is my neighbor. She's a freaking idiot. She ordered HSI service and against the better judgement of her son, me, and the Comcast sales rep she decided to do a free Self Install Kit. Long story short, she couldn't get it installed, she spend 5 hours on the phone with tech support, and gave up. She then told me what happened. She called Comcast back the next day, demanded a free premium install for her time and bitched out the sales rep on the phone for their terrible customer service because they didn't offer her a free premium install for her "trouble".

So basically she agreed to a service, the SELF install kit, couldn't do it because she doesn't even know how to work the mouse on her computer and then demanded a free install that usually costs $99.99 because she believed she was entitled to it just because they couldn't explain to her over the phone how to plug in the modem and run the install disc.

Total BS, and here's the kicker. . .Comcast was at her house that afternoon and did a free installation. That's their HORRIBLE custome service in action. LOL

Sounds pretty decent to me of them to do that, even though she is a total bitch and didn't deserve it. (I told her as much, by the way. LOL)

As far as cable, Comcast will be the best thing to happen to those 2 million Adelphia customers. Speaking as a former ATT customer, I'm plenty happy with Comcast. They are the best cable provider I've had so far and they are a very stable business providing stable jobs and a lot of cash flow in our local economy.

And no, I don't work for Comcast as some whiners may post hereafter.


hobgoblin
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Re: Go Comcast

Skywarp for reasons known only to him and possibly Jack Daniels posted

"The kicker is, one rides on the other. If you don't make money and you try to compete in our market you fail. (i.e. ADELPHIA!!!!!)"

Of course had you read the reasons behind the Adelphia failure you would know that their reasons for the POSSIBLE Sale were completely different.

"Comcast will be the best thing to happen to those 2 million Adelphia customers."

So You say....however as you have proved above you have little clue.

Hob
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Voyager2K2

join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
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Re: Go Comcast

Comcast took years to respond to customer complaints.
Hell look at their own TV commercials in regards to how better they are now.
Well yeah Hobs as usual I have an inside on CC.

Comcast is a money machine, not a service organization.
After all the bad-mouthing you Adelphia subscribers have done consider one thing.
Once the Regas family was detached from Adelphia they have done nothing but try any way they could to improve service albeit crippled by the former board's financial plundering.
I want to tell you something first-hand.
Comcast is a market driven company. They will NEVER provide more than the competition delivers even if they can.
I don't know much about T/W but with CC and T/W jumping in bed I would be very worried.

A note to the annon. troll: I thank goodness the telcos are entering the TV delivery market. It's the only hope that these emerging behemoths can be controlled.
Believe it or not the people of the US have a right to information access.
Hopefully Congress will step in and make that right a law at a price affordable to all.
Am I a commie? Nope. I just think all people should have equal access to the tools that allow them to better themselves. After that they are on their own.
I applaud the Philadelphia non-profit wireless Internet access as an example.

hobgoblin
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Re: Go Comcast

Voyager2k told us

"Once the Regas family was detached from Adelphia they have done nothing but try any way they could to improve service albeit crippled by the former board's financial plundering."

Indeed they did....and most subscribers will tell you that too.

If this happens it's a shame.

Hob
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lyls

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nice BS with that story on your "neighbour" btw are you that anonymous "keeping it real" guy ? he had a thing with whiners as well

ctceo
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South Bend, IN
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Size matters

Comcast was already too big. Made quite obvious by the iron handed tactics, billing practices, and pricing wars they always have.

Wireless Major

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Re: Size matters

I seriously hope in my area, if everything finalises, that we go to time warner here. Unfortunately, we'll probably be moved to comcast, which, I personally wish not to have. Also, Cable is the only option that I have as verizon has not rolled out their DSL service to my area, so its either Cable, or nothing.

celeritypc
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Caldwell, NJ

Changes..No Changes

Regardless of what company gets a specific system, if the system is run well, it will probably continue to be run well, if not, then it will still be terrible. As time goes on, channel lineups and product offerings will change but the general service level will be the same. If the system was recently upgraded, new products will be offered quicker. If the system is older and in bad repair, it will take time.

J D McDorce
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Westland, MI

Re: Changes..No Changes

In general terms, you are probably right. However, there have been, and will likely continue to be, exceptions. Most systems essentially stay the same, some poor systems may be upgraded to current state of the art, and some state of the art systems will turn to shit due to inept moves by the new owners.

Kompressor
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Huntington Beach, CA

Does it make Comcast too big?

How many percent does DirecTV own?
Hickerx2
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Franklinville, NY

You guys make me chuckle....

Actually, the resources that Adelphia has in place are awesome. IMO, the proper management would make the Adelphia systems unsurpassed. CC or TW are very capable in that regard whereas Adelphia's management couldn't run a popcorn cart.

The infrastructure won't suddenly change for better OR worse. Most adelphia systems are state-of-the-art or nearly so, and new ownership will only improve the overall service.
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lyls

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Re: You guys make me chuckle....

they cant run a popcorn cart? could you make a living running a popcorn cart? :P

monkeymoo234



im anti-comcast

im anti comcast 1. tech support there all idiots. 2. tech's never show up 3. expensive 4. im getting cavtel (10mbps)

yea my phone and cable will shrink tremendously with cavtel i might even get a dish bye bye comcast they can't even admit that they have network issues when they have em they always blame me t-mobile did the same thing o whell im a happy cingular customer (2 years august 05) and gonna be a happy cavtel customer and bye bye verizon landline and ur expensive long distance charges

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Re: im anti-comcast

said by monkeymoo234:

im anti comcast 1. tech support there all idiots. 2. tech's never show up 3. expensive 4. im getting cavtel (10mbps)

yea my phone and cable will shrink tremendously with cavtel i might even get a dish bye bye comcast they can't even admit that they have network issues when they have em they always blame me t-mobile did the same thing o whell im a happy cingular customer (2 years august 05) and gonna be a happy cavtel customer and bye bye verizon landline and ur expensive long distance charges
Good luck, Good Bye.
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ColdFiltered

join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA
I'm Anti-Adelphia (well, more anti-Rigas, but now anti-Adelphia) for their lack of vision--and making HDTV available to me in my area.

LeftOfSanity

@208.17.x.x

I have to disagree on that first point...while there are some who don't know as much as others...They always help me when I call.
Sometimes they help me with stuff that is out of thier scope of support. I hear alot of people complain about "the usual scripts, disconnect your router" I have had many techs help me while hooked to the router. And I totally agree to take a 3rd party piece of equiptment out of the loop...but I always hang up fixed and a little more knowledgeable.
jervin123

join:2005-04-14
Philadelphia, PA

Re: im anti-comcast

well that was my old annon name before i registered just now all the problems have been fixed but mine is still not working called comcast at about 5:30est and got someone who could hardly speak english so i just hung up i cant wait for my 10mbps and unlimited long distance for 70.00 a month

XBL2009
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL

$80 to watch TV

Sigh...I use to pay $15 for basic and $5 for HBO, can't believe how inflated the cost are.

Speedy8
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Alliance, OH
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Doesn't make sense,

quote:
Resulting from the 1992 Cable Act, the FCC set a limit that no single company could own cable systems reaching more than '30 percent' of the nation's customers.
That doesn't make much sense to me. I mean even if they have less than 30% cable companies don't face competition in most areas. Without competition why does it matter what % of customers they have?

GlobalMind
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Hollywood, FL

Personally

Bring on Comcast.

I know I had some issues with them in other areas in the past, but their overall signal quality has been the best I have encountered.

Adelphia took over our cruddy TeleMedia offices here in SFL and with our community in an agreement with them - you're kinda stuck until something changes. No DVRs here (I do have TiVo but that's not the point), no HD boxes (although the programming is there, I can see the channels in the guide).

Thus far I am not at all impressed with their rollout plans of new services, and IMHO Comcast is way above Adelphia's mark.

I used to have Comcast HSI, now with BellSouth DSL, and I probably won't go back to cable even if Comcast takes over.

We get basic cable as part of our HOA dues, and if it weren't for that I would head off to DTV in a second...still might if we can't get some progress here.

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