 aarskringspi
join:2004-10-02
Springfield, OR
| My Lord While I know we are a huge Country and it is more expensive to wire us with such speeds, we are rapidly falling behind Countries in terms of Broadband. For the Love of all that is Holy Sweeden makes us look like a third world Country when it comes to access to the internet. Its some what discouraging. | |
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Sean
The Great Divide
join:2004-01-23
Richmond Hil | Re: My Lord It's either 50 people per square meter, or 3 Mbps. Choose!  | |
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI
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| Re: My Lord Good point. Go outside. You see that? It's called land. Lots of it. Something they will never have. | |
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join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA | Re: My Lord I see a lot of squatters, too. And I bet they have less than a tenth of the illegal alien problem as well. | |
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join:2005-01-31
Euless, TX
| Re: My Lord I wasn't sure if the comment above about Sweeden was a reference to the country or just an expression?
Sweden
land: 410,934 sq km
Population: 8,986,400
Approx. 22 individuals per sq km
USA
Land: 9,161,923 sq km
Population: 293,027,571
Approx. 32 individuals per sq km
Source: »www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac···/sw.html
»www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac···/us.html
So, no, Sweden is not more populated than the US. Korea, yes.
Sweden decided not to make the illegals illegal, they are just aliens and they/we (still a Swede though living in Texas) have a large muslim population by now. Sweden's third largest city, Malmö, has I think 25% muslims. In other words immigrants from muslim areas of Europe and Middle East and Africa and Asia. | |
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join:2003-05-09
92361 | Re: My Lord So at that rate, Sweden will have a Muslim majority in no time and internet access will be banned. Good luck, Sweden! | |
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I Am a muslim, have a 6mb connection at home, High speed GPRS\EDGE connection in my mobile and a 11mb adsl2 connection at work and live in Kuwait which happens to be a muslim country,, so you see what you said wasn't nice at all. | |
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Proud Libertarian Conservative
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@ biochemistry
I Am a muslim, have a 6mb connection at home, High speed GPRS\EDGE connection in my mobile and a 11mb adsl2 connection at work and live in Kuwait which happens to be a muslim country,, so you see what you said wasn't nice at all.
Would you like whites to move to Kuwait and make up 25-50% of Kuwait Cities population?
Force Christianity and our foods and customs on your people?
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@168.187.x.x | Re: My Lord If you have a problem with immigration, then you pbbly should try to resolve that with your gov.
Oh, and by the way,, we're like %98 whites over here with more christian immigrants and locals than you think. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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| said by Tubisten  :I wasn't sure if the comment above about Sweeden was a reference to the country or just an expression? Sweden land: 410,934 sq km Population: 8,986,400 Approx. 22 individuals per sq km USA Land: 9,161,923 sq km Population: 293,027,571 Approx. 32 individuals per sq km Source: » www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac···/sw.html» www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac···/us.htmlSo, no, Sweden is not more populated than the US. Korea, yes. Sweden decided not to make the illegals illegal, they are just aliens and they/we (still a Swede though living in Texas) have a large muslim population by now. Sweden's third largest city, Malmö, has I think 25% muslims. In other words immigrants from muslim areas of Europe and Middle East and Africa and Asia. I don't care what anyone says but Sweden is a white country with white culture.... It's wrong that those ultra liberals think it's "alright" to allow POLAR OPPOSITE cultures into a country ILLEGALLY and then ENCOURAGE it....
Every ethnic group on this planet has a place to call home, but when it comes to being "white" you have to give up your land to other cultures illegally.
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join:2000-10-14
Bronx, NY
| Re: My Lord What the hell is your problem?Look around."whites" are all over the world as are all other creeds.I think you don't know the politics of that country.Sounds to me that you need to learn about cultures because you sound childish in your opinion.Your response has nothing to do about broadband whatsoever.This is the wrong forum for you.Why don't give us a way to make broadband better for us here in the U.S.A. ? | |
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Proud Libertarian Conservative
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| Re: My Lord said by TrekfanII :What the hell is your problem?Look around."whites" are all over the world as are all other creeds.I think you don't know the politics of that country.Sounds to me that you need to learn about cultures because you sound childish in your opinion.Your response has nothing to do about broadband whatsoever.This is the wrong forum for you.Why don't give us a way to make broadband better for us here in the U.S.A. ? Actually, I do know.....
Did you see how one culture is being wiped off the map and a much more dominant (and radically different) culture is taking over? It's not right when a government allows the wiping out of a people's culture that has been around for thousands of years just so that some minority-turn-majority can come illegally and wipe out of the native people....
As for this doing with broadband? Well, we're talking about POPULATION dealing with BROADBAND.... It has become apparent that SMALL populations with MIDDLE - CLASS people will spawn FTTH. When you have LARGE populations of POOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and RADICALLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE who WON'T buy into modern western technology.
Countries like Japan, Sweden etc are nice currently because the immigrants are confined to the cities. When they start coming into the villages, that will be the day when that country goes to shit.
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join:2001-12-10
Long Beach, CA | Re: My Lord There was a time not that long ago when your ancestors came here as a minority and participated in or at least gained from a government program that wiped out a people's culture that had been around for thousands of years. | |
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SexaT duorP
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join:2001-03-28
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| said by Tzale :said by TrekfanII :What the hell is your problem?Look around."whites" are all over the world as are all other creeds.I think you don't know the politics of that country.Sounds to me that you need to learn about cultures because you sound childish in your opinion.Your response has nothing to do about broadband whatsoever.This is the wrong forum for you.Why don't give us a way to make broadband better for us here in the U.S.A. ? Actually, I do know..... Did you see how one culture is being wiped off the map and a much more dominant (and radically different) culture is taking over? It's not right when a government allows the wiping out of a people's culture that has been around for thousands of years just so that some minority-turn-majority can come illegally and wipe out of the native people.... As for this doing with broadband? Well, we're talking about POPULATION dealing with BROADBAND.... It has become apparent that SMALL populations with MIDDLE - CLASS people will spawn FTTH. When you have LARGE populations of POOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and RADICALLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE who WON'T buy into modern western technology. Countries like Japan, Sweden etc are nice currently because the immigrants are confined to the cities. When they start coming into the villages, that will be the day when that country goes to shit. -Tzale Are you on crack? Have you ever read a history book? You DO realize where the Cradle of Life / Fertile Crescent is, right? It's between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. Pull out a map and be pleasantly surprised. I think they were on earth a little longer than white people were. And if you're talking about illegal mexicans immigrants, then I'd like to happily point out that they originally came from Spain - only a few hundred miles from Great Britain and Germany - where most white North Americans can trace their ancestry from. They're part of the same "culture that has been around thousands of years". As far as that goes, I'd like to know which "culture" you're talking about. Not a single European culture (save the italians) has even existed for more than 2000 years - the only europeans before that were what you'd call uncivilized - the saxons, norse, anglos, barbarians, etc.. - far from something i'd call cultured.
"Countries like Japan, Sweden etc are nice currently because the immigrants are confined to the cities." What in the hell does that have to do with anything? Last I checked, most immigrants go to the cities anyways. They don't move out to the 'burbs. Of course, i'm from Texas, what do I know about immigrants. Anyways, can you please provide a shred of reason as to why the location of immigrants matters? I can tell you right now though, it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is profits - and judging by the people i've met, it doesn't matter what your income is - broadband is getting higher and higher on the to-get list for everyone of every race and every age.
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join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT | I live in the North East near NYC. We look like Korea. There is no reason why we shouldnt have Fiber already. If we didnt have the TELCO/RBOC monopolies we would have fiber already. | |
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Frank
is chilling
Premium
join:2000-11-03
somewhere
·Verizon FIOS
| That's a good argument maybe for someone in montana.....
but
where i live (nj) it's 1,134 people per square mile.
in nyc it's 25,925 people per square mile.
all of this is according to the 2000 census which.
I wouldnt be surprised if those figures have doubled.
I look out my window and i dont see land I see other buildings. I live in a town where a small one family house costs about $700,000 and it's not a 'rich town'. There's no land or houses available at a reasonable rate because of the population density being so high and so many people want to move here.
where's my 100mbps fiber? It should have been here years ago. | |
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join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA | Have to love government subsidies over there.  | |
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burgermeister
All Computers Are Junk
join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI
| I'm still trying to figure out how fiber will enhance my life and raise my standard of living-- if I were to get it.
Still can't think of any reason to justify trenching up my front yard for fiber. 
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@optonline.net | Isn't it amazing that the places we bombed seem to have the best innovation afterwards, Japan... Sony... Korea... Kia's & Broadband | |
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Unreal111
join:2004-01-21
Minneapolis, MN | You never know well you never know, USA might boost the speeds faster then other countries in the future. I hope. | |
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Th_sp
@algart.org | What progress. From making my shoes to 100 mbit broadband - who'da thunk it?
They're not only ahead in speeds, but in politics. Many other countries don't have the DMCA.  | |
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nekote
join:2000-12-16
Hopkinton, MA
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March 25th, @04:17PM
| Verizon FiOS - FTTH / PONs ? From what I've heard / seen, the new fiber optic system Verizon is building out is exactly that type of system.
Of course, they're not, initially, talking about 100Mbps.
(5 M / 2 M lower tier; 30 M / 5 M upper tier, initially)
But I suspect this is likely all the same technology?
AFAIK, the new Verizon system is WDM/PONs. | |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
·Charter Pipeline
| Different approach to networks Asian contries, aside from only having limited providers, treat BB networks as LAN's instead of WAN's. Here in the US, when networks are built, they build them to have access to services offered by other providers.
Over there, the ISP has all the services anyone would (readily) want on their own network. To provide access to those services, they build huge LAN's to interconnect them. Any time you need something that's not on that network, that's when you hit the "Internet."
When we see 100mbps Internet service, they really don't have that, they simply have 100mbps access to most services with shared 20mbps service to the rest of the world (which isn't anything to sneeze at either!)
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Premium
join:2002-01-01
Atlanta, GA
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| GAH! ok i know all about the smaller countries have it easier.
They are smaller, have less money
we are bigger and have more money
If some frikkin coalition of companies helped by the government would get on the ball we'd have decent internet access. I mean come on! Where I use to live (right off Interstate 95 in south florida) where theres new communities that are 0 lot line (unbelievable amounts of homes per square mile) they dont qualify for DSL or Cable Internet. It's ridiculous.
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join:2003-10-19
Tacoma, WA | Re: GAH! Im glad our government and cooperations are spending our money on something else besides entertainment, which to me is a waste..i would rather see all of that money spent on accelerating our progress for getting off this shitty planet ASAP. | |
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@104.charter-s
| Re: GAH! »www.searleffect.com But it's up to you. Want to go? People need to start worrying about more important things than entertainment, true.
Still need to work on the quantum entanglement for communications. Let's face it, even using light to communicate from the Earth to say... Mars, the ping times would be "astronomical". 
Believe it or not, there are those of us who think about these things daily, and are tired of the way this country is falling behind in science and technology, compared to other countries. | |
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Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
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| The thing that really annoys me is that musicians, actors and pro athletes are ridiculously wealthy. Where as teachers, police or nurses are almost broke.
I'm with you though, its too bad that we will never set foot on another planet. I mean, just look at how bad we are getting screwed over to make a buck in areas like oil. (and of course broadband) If they can rake us over the coals for one extra cent for one extra day, you better believe it will happen.
Just imagine how much money/control they would lose if we could live on another planet! | |
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join:2003-10-19
Tacoma, WA
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join:2002-10-06
Kearny, NJ | Re: GAH! United states will never be better them other country in broadband because here we have to many morons, and the talk is how much money will i get, they do not care about anything else. | |
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join:2004-09-05
Lakeland, FL | Re: GAH! Kearny, NJ
amazing that you bite the hand that feeds... don't like it?, Then move. | |
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join:2005-03-25
Midland, MI
| Re: GAH! It's patriotic to point out things you don't like about any country - much more so than acting like everything is perfect in the god-blessed land, when it's not. I agree with him that we are not better than everyone else - but maybe he is helping to change that by pointing it out! If the US has a booger on it's face, he's saying wipe it off! It's a labor of love... | |
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join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ | This post is like the pot calling the kettle black. | |
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cao1964
join:2000-08-09
Danville, PA
| haha another floridian, no f kidding, here in Boca Raton its a little better in land but not by much its not like we don't have once house almost on top of another, there is plenty of people and money here, and still we have shit speed.
Lets face it, its all about getting the most money out of us for the least amount of work. So who really runs those big companies that do DSL and Cable maybe its some Euro after all we seem to sell our own kids if their was a market for it. | |
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Sarge_0321
join:2002-06-27
San Diego, CA
| You guys got it all wrong! All we need in this country is the bible. Who needs fiber!?
The rest of the world is 'evolving' and thus they are moving forward.
Need I say more?
We are more concerned with pumping up the Department of Defense while the American infrastructure falls apart.
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All Computers Are Junk
join:2000-10-23
Utica, MI | Re: You guys got it all wrong! Fiber is the work of the devil. | |
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DrStrange
Technically feasible
Premium
join:2001-07-23
West Hartford, CT | O, joy 100Mbps per user of spam, ports scans and DDOS bots! | |
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sancraig
join:2003-11-05
Saint Louis, MO | Question Article doesnt say wether this is north or south Korea. Anyone know which it is? | |
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join:2005-03-23
Cherry Hill, NJ
| Re: Question IT's South Korea. They have had Fiber service for few years now from KT (Korea Telecom), only that high-rise apartments were only ones who could get the service. (100Mbps Up and Down for only $30 with 3 year contract). The service is called Entopia.
Now with FTTH service the whole country will enjoy this exciting fiber service. Before other houses, villas, small apts had to use either cable or vdsl or adsl service ranging from 10Mbps to 2Mbps.
I hope my job application to KT goes through. (I'm Korean native, not US citizen). | |
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join:2003-11-05
Saint Louis, MO | Re: Question oh cool glad to hear it I dont mind if some other country excels at something before us. Its just good to hear that technology is moving along and eventually it will get here and hopefully without subsidies. | |
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fios hungry
@sea1-4-5-036-068.sea | My 3 friends in S.Korea, they have VDSL High tier PKG( VDSL Special)50mbps down 20mbps up for $40(36,000 won).
I would move in a second!!! | |
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garts99
join:2003-02-27
North York | North Korea doesnt have running water.
Guess which one. | |
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join:2003-11-05
Saint Louis, MO | Re: Question lol well north Korea is always putting out crazy news I was making sure before I opened my mouth and looked stupider.
too late i geuss | |
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terracell
join:2004-04-16
Livonia, MI |  100 meg service
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
Premium
join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA
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| Re: 100 meg service guess what, they do!
100 MegaBIT = 12.5 MegaBYTES
last i saw average hard drive speed is 30 MegaBYTES a second and thats been around for 3+ years im sure
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