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| Here We Go Again quote: Cable Vs. DSL
Come on, why must they be competing all the time?
Cable and DSL are both great broadband technologies. I don't care who's in the "lead".
I like my cable service but some other people may like dsl better. Different preferences for different people. | |
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| Re: Here We Go Again I just want to offer this: I just ended a 3 year run with Charter Pipeline in WI. The speed was ok, never reached 3 megs but close. However, SBC DSL in my area blows cable away, I get content at 1.5 mb as fast as it came at Charters 3 meg, and for much less! Also, charter is known for simply dropping your payment plan or changing policy as they wish. I was supposed to get pipeline at first for only $20 additional to my Cable TV. That was supposed to include the modem. Next year, they revoke the free modem and now want $4.95 for rental fee, bought my own. Next, they went to 3 megs and wanted more for that or you got knocked down to 768k, what a choice! Corvette or Yugo, nothing in-between! Now they just told me that our current plan AGAIN has been discountinued because they "re-aligned" their pricing plans and now the bill goes up another $6.00! Bye, bye Charter Pipeline! Over $100 a month for cable tv and internet? Insane! At least here, DSL rocks! | |
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| Granted DSL is less expensive than my Time Warner cable, I'd still go with Cable due to the fact even during these so called "busy slowdown" hours, I have yet to experience these slowdowns DSL advocates claim, plus with a 5 megabit connection I'm more than twice as fast as my friends with SBC and Verizon DSL. | |
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| Re: Here We Go Again i love my dsl, dsl speeds are shooting through the roof. the upload is faster, dont have to worrie about disconnects or to many people on my node. i have had cable, and i have had a few more problems with it than dsl, mostly disconnects (Especially when @home fell apart, i was without cable for a while with comcast + there cover up on the matter blameing it on my equipment....) | |
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| TWC? Well It's around, But I'll stick to Dish Network for My TV and VOL for My DSL. At least the stupid Horrid Cable is so much better than such and such commercials are finally gone from the Airwaves. -- Firefox forever!»mysite.verizon.net/zoom314/ | |
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| said by KeepOnRockin : quote: Cable Vs. DSL
Come on, why must they be competing all the time? Cable and DSL are both great broadband technologies. I don't care who's in the "lead". I like my cable service but some other people may like dsl better. Different preferences for different people. You're exactly right. I have DSL because I can't stand the local cable company (Adelphia). Couldn't get cable modem without cable TV here anyway and I'll never go back to cable TV from DirecTV. | |
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| said by KeepOnRockin : quote: Cable Vs. DSL
Come on, why must they be competing all the time? Actually, the competition is great for the consumer as we get more for our money. Too bad DSL has fallen so far behind. I hope DSL starts catching up quickly! GO DSL! -- DAMOX Proud to be a member of Team Discovery | |
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| Re: Here We Go Again said by damox : Too bad DSL has fallen so far behind. I hope DSL starts catching up quickly! GO DSL! 30% is SO far behind??? (And actually its a gain)
Lots of subscribers, does not necessarily make something good or great.
Lots of people bought PINTO's... didn't make them a great car. -- »haywardm.com (Hayward's Key West) | |
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| Re: Here We Go Again said by Hayward : 30% is SO far behind??? (And actually its a gain) Lots of subscribers, does not necessarily make something good or great.
Lots of people bought PINTO's... didn't make them a great car. What is 30%? Not sure what you are talking about. The best I can get from Qwest here in Washington, is 1.5 down and 896 up. That's for $30. While it's not to bad, Comcast is now offering 4 Mbits down and 384 up for $47 (which includes the cost of renting a modem) or for $10 more I can get 6 Mbit down and 640 up!
When I had DSL a while back, I had 3 different carriers and the best I could get is 640/256, and at that time, it cost $40. While they've improved a bit, I've been far more satisifed since I went with Comcast. I guess it's all in where you live!
said by Hayward :Lots of subscribers, does not necessarily make something good or great. Lots of people bought PINTO's... didn't make them a great car. Again, I'm not sure what you are talking about. The reason DSL has fallen behind is because their offerings are falling behind. That is why cable is beating them! My point is that I am hoping that DSL Bandwidth will increase to the point where prices for cable will come down. I don't really care whether I have dsl or cable, I just want the best product for the best price! As far as I'm concerned, I wish dsl were twice as popular as cable, because then the prices for cable would fall! -- DAMOX Proud to be a member of Team Discovery | |
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| Re: Here We Go Again said by damox : The reason DSL has fallen behind is because their offerings are falling behind. DSL is NOT falling behind, it has ALWAYS been behind and it is actually GAINING in the recent past as distance technology and speed has gotten better.
Can't figure out what 30% is??? Well lets see... how much behind is 13 mil subs compared to 19 mil subs? -- »haywardm.com (Hayward's Key West)
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| Re: Here We Go Again You and I are not even in the same conversation here. You are talking about number of users, My main point is bang for your buck! Truly, I look forward to the day when DSL will trounce cable! When that happens, we'll have some truly awesome bandwidth! Until then, I'll just keep my cable plugged in. If I could get the same bandwidth for a similar price from DSL, I'd switch back in a moment! Unfortunately, I'd don't foresee that happening anytime soon. -- DAMOX Proud to be a member of Team Discovery | |
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| Re: Here We Go Again To each their own... 3mbs is plenty (sure I might like more now and then) but reliability and that it is ALWAYS there when I need it (which cable around here is NOT) are far more important issues to me.
(Also why I don't have cable for TV either) -- »haywardm.com (Hayward's Key West) | |
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| you're very wrong about that. Dsl has not fallen apart. The Cablevision company and all the other companies is falling apart. The cablevision company i forced to spend $300 million to help build the Football stadium in NY for the 2012 olympics. When they invested that $300 million, they raised the cable bill for alot of both its TV customers and its Internet customers. Because the Cable bills went skyrocketed, many customers had no choice but to cancel their internet service with Cablevision. Cablevision is loosing many of its customers. I bet you Verizon will atract many millions of more customers when the Fiber network becomes availabe across the country. Verizon will wipe out the competition. | |
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| Re: Here We Go Again Well I don't know about Cablevision (if they suck I am thankful I don't have them as a carrier), but Comcast is doing fine by me. The price for my internet has been the same for 2 and a half years, but in the same time it has increased from 1.5 mbits/256 Kbits to the 4 mbits/384 kbits which they are rolling out now! As I said in my post, "I guess it's all in where you live!" Perhaps somewhere in the United States, DSL is offering great bandwidth at competitive prices, but not in my neighborhood!
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| DSL > Cable IMO dsl is the greater technology for the future. You really cant rely on sharing with all your neighbors. If only they could get around the distance issues, dsl would be much more dominant -- I subscribe to the theory of intellectual osmosis. Unfortunately, I must now cease our conversation and move away from you before my intelligence begins to drop. Good day. | |
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| Re: DSL > Cable said by fundamentalz :IMO dsl is the greater technology for the future. LOL ...glad you added the "IMO" part. | |
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| said by fundamentalz :IMO dsl is the greater technology for the future. You really cant rely on sharing with all your neighbors. If only they could get around the distance issues, dsl would be much more dominant I wouldn't get dsl now even if i could. I don't care about sharing with my neighbors. big whip. A properly maintained cable system will have constant speeds all the time. In the 8 years ive had a cable modem, i have only had a slowdown once or twice, (and it usually wasn't mediaone or tci or att broadbands fault. It was outside their network.) I just can't see anybody who knows anything about the technology paying good money to get 1.5 (Or even 3.0!)! I can't! Until they up the speeds of dsl, or deploy a new version of dsl with faster speeds, im keeping my 6600/768 for Just over $60.00.
There is another thing that i take into consideration. I have been screwed around by ameritech and sbc so much with my local service that even if dsl was perfect and i could get fast speeds, wouldn't get it just for the simple fact that they just hate the company or just doesn't want to give more of their own hard earned money to a company that doesn't even know their right hand from their left.
I know what your going to say. the cable companies are evil, they charge the $15.00 for non catv customers, the unknown caps, 2gb limit on newsgroups, the faster speeds with @home, and who knows what else. what would i rather have, $100.00 dsl with sbc for 6meg or $60.00 for 6.6 with those limitations i mentioned above. Some people are more prone to get the sbc route, others don't care about those issues and pay a little less.
I don't see dsl in its current form to be the next big thing. Fiber? Possibly. But i still don't see it killing the cable companies anytime. They will co-exist, and hopefully will improve in time.
end or rant. -- DirecTivo w/4.0,hmo,tivowebplus,verver. and loving it. | |
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join:2004-01-21 Gurnee, IL | Re: DSL > Cable In the end, DSL will almost always have much better ping times, and as a gamer, thats all I care about. | |
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join:2004-10-27 Richardson, TX | TADA! guess what you live in chicago prob on a overcongested node not all systems are like that =P | |
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| well for what it's worth it's just what ever suits you best. Cable is Faster while Dsl is slow. They say it's more consitant, since the upgrade my cable never drops. they say the upload is better but cable has the same upload as dsl on as far as the max pakage. Now Dsl is cheapier and after all cheaper is cheaper and we all know you get what you pay for =) | |
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| said by Mchart :In the end, DSL will almost always have much better ping times Ping is going to have more to do with how your ISP handles routing than the technology itself. I think that's why we're hearing others with good ping times from cable and some even saying DSL was a lot slower.
But yes. For a gamer low ping time is a must. | |
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| Re: DSL > Cable said by staticx57 :fiber will win in the end so who cares? People care probably because fiber will take 10 or more years to get any real coverage. For now we must make do with Cable or DSL. -- I subscribe to the theory of intellectual osmosis. Unfortunately, I must now cease our conversation and move away from you before my intelligence begins to drop. Good day. | |
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| Cable modems can go as fast as 43Mbps with docsis 2.0. I see the cable companies competing with fiber. And as long as cable continues the docsis 1.1 and 2.0 upgrades, just like the telephone companies doing their upgrades, i will continue to use cable as my primary internet connection for years to come. I care less about fiber. when the time comes, the cable operators will just boost speeds again, and again, and again. They always have, and will continue to. -- DirecTivo w/4.0,hmo,tivowebplus,verver. and loving it. | |
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| said by fundamentalz :IMO dsl is the greater technology for the future. You really cant rely on sharing with all your neighbors. If only they could get around the distance issues, dsl would be much more dominant I wonder what resources are you able to access without sharing? You would only get benefit of non-shared access if there were any content hosted right at the DSLAM location. No such thing exists today.
You are sharing the bandwidth with all your neighbours from DSLAM to the ISP location. There are a bunch of DSLAMs around with a T3 for backhaul (and even some on a T1) serving more than 1000s of users creating the exact same situation as cable. Your dedicated link from DSLAM to home is like a very long extension cable.
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| Re: DSL > Cable said by DrTCP :said by fundamentalz :IMO dsl is the greater technology for the future. You really cant rely on sharing with all your neighbors. If only they could get around the distance issues, dsl would be much more dominant I wonder what resources are you able to access without sharing? You would only get benefit of non-shared access if there were any content hosted right at the DSLAM location. No such thing exists today. You are sharing the bandwidth with all your neighbours from DSLAM to the ISP location. There are a bunch of DSLAMs around with a T3 for backhaul (and even some on a T1) serving more than 1000s of users creating the exact same situation as cable. Your dedicated link from DSLAM to home is like a very long extension cable. Edit: typo fixed This is true, once things get to that part of the network it's much the same as cable, but that is not what's meant by "shared"
A node could have the largest most uber massive connection in the world but that won't get around the fact that the MUCH smaller pipe between you and that particular node is shared with everyone else on that node. That is where the daily slowdown problems (yes I know this can be fixed by splitting the node up, it's just that in many cases that's being ignored) and the nastygrams about running servers or using your connection to much originate. -- Because Goldengamegod won't fit:p | |
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| Re: DSL > Cable said by Goldengamego :A node could have the largest most uber massive connection in the world but that won't get around the fact that the MUCH smaller pipe between you and that particular node is shared with everyone else on that node. That is where the daily slowdown problems (yes I know this can be fixed by splitting the node up, it's just that in many cases that's being ignored) and the nastygrams about running servers or using your connection to much originate. As a matter of fact, the pipe from CMTS to the CM is not much smaller. In fact, that pipe is 4-8 times bigger than any one customer at any one time. Glorified non-shared advantage of DSL is not that great in practice!
Really, if you look at the overall picture there is little difference in practice regarding where sharing occur. In fact sharing is not bad. It is more efficient use of total resources while reducing the total cost of providing service. Cable broadband providers are actually making more money than DSL providers and can affort providing more overall average bandwidth for the same cost is because of this.
And Cable using DOCSIS 1.1 provisions can create virtual channels on that cable with guaranteed bandwidth as well for things like VOIP and offload that traffic early at the CMTS. This is one area where Cable based digital phone has an advantage on pure VoIP providers like Vonage (but does the difference in price worth it? - again the dedicated implementation costs more)
It is the ISP service that matters. If the DSL is not done right it would leave a really sour experience (I used both). | |
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join:2005-03-19 02704 | Could you possibly tell me what the sharing ratio typically is? 1:40, 1:20 or 1:50 (in the UK for home users it's usually 1:50). | |
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join:2005-03-19 02704 | Re: DSL > Cable Sorry I mean- FOR DSL- can somebody tell me the sharing ratio from CO (DSLAM) to Gateway ? usually is? | |
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| Ahhh the sharing argument. You do realize that your DSL is shared too right? That you dont have a direct line to the backbone? This argument is absurd. If DSL oversells their bandwith at the CO then you will have the same effect as if the cable co oversells the bandwith in an area. The entire internet and every network that your on is shared. | |
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| well duh cause its companies like sbc who are little bitches and won't make a CO near my house because "comcast" already owns that land. pfft little would they know that i'd hop on the dsl bandwagon and same as about 5K people if they found out dsl was availabe because were all tired of comcast and there dumb fees | |
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| Verizon -- and the rest of 'em Verizon has the problem solved -- for good with Fiber to the Premise (FTTP). So what the heck is SBC and BellSouth trying to prove. Maybe they like the Cable Co's holding the lead? -- Lord protect me from your followers | |
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| When distance is less of a problem with DSL.... The distance is still a HUGE issue with DSL even in big cities.
I live in Chicago, IL which ranks about 5 in the top cities of the USA with the highest population and they have trouble providing me the 3Mbps/512Kbps package they have and in the end could provide nothing which is a huge company by the name of SBC.
I still think DSL won't take the lead anytime soon in this. | |
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| DSL's better, read on. DSL when handled right IMO is the better technology because of it's "dedicated" nature. There are fewer potential bottlenecks on a DSL network than on a cable network. Cable has the CMTS, nodes and god knows whatelse. Thing is, there's no "port" limit on those things so the Co's can just keep packing customers on.
DSL doens't allow for that because there are port limits on the DSLAMSs, so obersubscribing - hardware wise - isn't possible.
AFAIK Cable Co's run fibre all the way up o their nodes, then use coax for "the last mile" to the user. If The Bells ran fibre to a neighbourhood DSLAM then ran copper for "the last mile" they'd definately have the stronger network. | |
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| Regional In my area, Qwest has some serious DSL connectivity issues. Comcast is never out for me. My friend got DSL a couple weeks ago, and within that time it was out for a day. I have another friend who only had access for 5 minutes at midnight, and another whose DSL was out for several days. In my neighborhood, cable is superior. -- |Networking Help|My Blog| | |
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| Re: Cable is better than ISDN! >>>DSL is better than cable when the local DSL provider sucks >>>less than the local cable provider. >>>Cable is better than DSL when the local cable provider >>>sucks less than the local DSL provider.
'zactly. And to paraphrase my SBC-Yahoo review, "either is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick." | |
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| Re: Cable is better than ISDN! said by Rammer :said by pcscdma 
Coca-Cola is better than Pepsi!  [/BQUOTE:nope pepsi all the way lol Coke is better. Pepsi has too high of pings and it is oversubscribed!:D | |
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| Cable has a long way to go... »investor.cisco.com/phoenix.zhtml···=677912&
"Cisco Systems and Himawari Network Announce Trials of Technology Delivering up to 1 Gbps Broadband Speeds on Existing Hybrid Fiber Coax Networks
02-23-05 08:01 AM EST | SAN JOSE, Calif. --(BUSINESS WIRE)--
Wideband Protocol for DOCSIS(TM) Trial at Toyota Dream Home Cisco Systems(R) (Nasdaq: CSCO) and Himawari Network, Inc. today announced they have begun trials of Wideband Protocol for DOCSIS(TM), a new technology able to deliver up to 1 gigabit per second (Gbps) broadband speeds to consumers and businesses over existing hybrid fiber coax (HFC) networks. The trial, being conducted at the Toyota Dream Home at Aichi prefecture in Japan, will showcase the ability to converge video, data traffic onto a single IP-based high-speed service offering, providing cable operators increased service flexibility and lowering deployment and operational costs.
"Wideband technology will expand the business opportunities for cable operators and accelerate the acceptance of home networking by enabling an IP-based entertainment and communication solution," said Hironobu Okumura, president of Himawari Network. "This will drive market demand and our ability to deliver advanced services such as High Definition Television (HDTV), Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP), video on demand and on-line gaming."
The Wideband Protocol for DOCSIS was pioneered by Cisco, and augments HFC network bandwidth by adding one of more additional downstreams to the standard broadband DOCSIS system. This new set of downstream channels is grouped into one larger channel, and is known as a Wideband channel.
The Himawari Wideband trial is based on Cisco's uBR10012 Cable Modem Termination System (CMTS) platform, enabling customers to utilize existing investments to improve time-to-market and drive profitability. Since Wideband Protocol for DOCSIS is compatible with existing DOCSIS 1.x and 2.0 specifications, Himawari will be able to use the technology in parallel with existing modem deployments to provide a migration path to additional high speed service offerings. As part of the trial, Linksys, a division of Cisco Systems, Inc., will provide the Wideband cable modem which can receive and process data streams transmitted by the CMTS on multiple radio frequency channels.
The trial was launched by Himawari Network in December and provides the foundation for an expanded program over the next year as the technology matures and subscriber demand grows.
"We are honored to be working with Himawari on this project," said Pankaj Patel, vice president of the Cisco Broadband and Edge Midrange Routing Business Unit. "Himawari Network is one of the most forward-thinking cable operators in the world and this trial is evidence of their commitment to industry leadership and service excellence." " | |
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| Cable seems better If you have techs that know what they are doing Cable HSI rocks. Yea your on a shared neighborhood network but for me I don't notice it. The tech I talk with says that my bandwidth is not affected if someone in the neighborhood is doing heavy usage. With DSL your sharing occurs upstream at the CO level. Unless they want to bond copper to extend distances for today's DSL I see cable winning in the long run. Now with Fios entering the picture I think fiber will change everything farther down the long run. | |
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| Re: Cable seems better This is something that i have seen. I had DSL before i went off to college. Now, i live in a house with 17 people and running off of 4mbps Cable. Now, i live on a streat with many houses of 17 people running off of their own 4mbps cable connections. I have never had this slowdown that was always promised if i had cable in a busy neighborhood. I can honestly say that i get a constant 4mbps connection. -- -Jeff | |
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| Re: here we go again... I don't really care who is the lead. I like my Cable Powered Internet. But DSL needs to be "Provisioned" Before it works so who really cares? Really it's none of my bizness. I like what I like and I don't care what any buddy else thinks of My ISP. -- Once upon a time a guy got pulled over for speeding: -The cop say's: licence Please-Guy can you please hold my beer while I get it. | |
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| Of course Cable's ahead ... Cable companies, when they deploy, deploy broadband to almost their entire customer base. Just about anyone who is on a modern 2-way HFC cable network can get broadband.
The phone companies have only done limited deployments of DSL. Some, like Qwest, have deployed hardly any. In my town, Verizon has deployed where it's easy, close to the C.O. where alot are on welfare and can't afford it, and ignored the affluent people outside of town who'd pay through the nose for it.
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| Oh man!
Here we go again,
For the millionth time. Cable problems due to sharing is a MYTH. In other words it's a MYTH! That means it's a MYTH!
So now I suppose some guy will post, oh yea, well in my neigbourhood it isn't. It always slows down for me during peak times yada yada. Never mind the other million who don't have that problem because they are on a properly designed cable system and don't speak up.
Man oh man, the telephone company marketing departments sure did a good job of perpetuating the "shared pipe" myth. Even now, with cable winning the hearts and minds the myth still prevails among the die hards! | |
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  admsteck1
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| Location, location, location I live out in the middle of nowhere (NW Ohio). To me, it's not about which is better, but which is available. After the last few places I have lived, I'm glad to have any broadband I can (DSL at the moment). I wasn't about to pay $70 for ISDN or satalite at my last location. I think the whole compitition in rural area's is non-exsistant, dsl is all I can get, so that's what I got. However, I have heard rumors that my local telco is starting to work on some fiber lines. In our area, this will replace both dsl and cable. | |
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