 JPCass
join:2001-01-23 Denver, CO
| Nicosia Nicosia is the capital of Cypress, and if I recall Cyprus is a fraud hot-spot. Is that a clue about Pluto Data, or the client for whom Pluto Data is processing charges?
And what's the big deal about this particular fraud? Fake charges scams like this are a dime a dozen, unfortunately. | |
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 |   Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02
Host: Road Runner PC gaming GAMES PC gaming Tech
| Re: Nicosia quote: And what's the big deal about this particular fraud?
Why not? If two people Google Search this article and find information, or two more notice the charge on their credit card, isn't it worth talking about? | |
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 |   oncenadforall
@optonline.net
thumbs down from: oliphant 
| Look, these people who solicited a spam and scam operation got exactly what they deserved for feeding the spam that invades everyone's inbox, web browser and internet traffic with nonsense.. I hope it ruins their credit and they have to move to those poor scary minority neighborhoods!!!!!!! With NO broadband. | |
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 |  |   blackjeep
join:2001-07-12 Atlanta, GA | Re: Nicosia Anonymous troll. Hope at some point it happens to you. | |
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 |  |   Butter1950
@swbell.ne
| In reading this thread I see that some people think that this is happening to those who answered a spam note that was sent out. I'd like to inform you that a friend is being changed and knew anything about this company until this week. Meaning that someone illegally got their account information and starting changing their account. If you think that it is OK for someone to do it then I only hope it doesn't happen to you. I wonder how large the tears will be if and when it does happen to you???? | |
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 |  |  |   oldfart53
@4.242.x.x
| Re: Nicosia I just had a charge from Pluto Data LTD appear on my Visa. I don't use my credit card on line for very many things. I certainly don't use it as proof of being 18 to get on to any sites. I regularly do use it to pay my ISP, Poetworld (dial-up) and my dial-around, Telcan. I did use it when I filed my taxes online through H&R Block. My card is with First-Tech Credit union. I don't answer spam. I mark my junkmail as such and send it to the trash. I have no idea how they got my credit card number. | |
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 |  |   TheKayGee
@untd.com
| This happened to me and I don't reply to spam! I demanded a refund after an internet purchase and the timing seems to coincide. Just face it, there are simply those amongst us that will find any way possible to make a dishonest buck. No one is exempt! | |
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 |  |   pissed off mom
@swbell.ne
| once and for all we have broadband and we dont open any strange email we dont use our credit cards online and we got this charge so please please explain how I the mother of three children and a hard working adult deserved to get my money stolen this is about the only time i will say this to anyone i hope and pray that these scam artists are looking at this and see your incredibly stupid statements and hit u next and i hope and pray that they hit pay dirt with you and take your identity maybe just maybe then they will be happy and leave us hard working people alone but then again you sound like a moronic redneck so they probably wont get much out of you. | |
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 |   CardCops
@pacbell.n
| If all users hit with this charge send us a list of where they shopped on the net, we will find the compromised site. Unfortunately, Visa and MC have a hard time contacting all of the issuing banks to find the common demoninator site where all users shopped.
We find a hacked site a day and notify the site that they may in fact being "mined". Here's a recent story in the LA Times that deals with ID Theft and hacked credit cards. »www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-i···set=true
Dan Clements dan@cardcops.com | |
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 |  |   disheartened dj
@optonline.net
| Re: Nicosia I recently got hit with the Pluto Data LTD charge of $29.99. I am from New Jersey and thought I was "EXTREMELY" careful with my card. The only recent purchase I made on the internet in March was from joann.com, a fabric and craft store!
The only other purchases made in the beginning of March with this card were for gasoline at a station in town that charged 10 to 20 cents less than anyone else. There are all new attendants there in the last two weeks! What concerns me is when they insert your card, they leave it hanging out of the tank. I ask for it but they speak no English. I am more concerned about what exctly might be going on there than on joann.com.
Do you think I am overreacting, being a policeman's daughter, or should I mention this to local authorities? I do not want to accuse anyone, foreign or American, of anything I do not have any "Solid" information on. Obviously, since I am concerned, I will be paying cash at another station for my gas.
I did have the credit card company close my credit card account, but was a bit disheartening, was I made them "Chase Bank/Bank One security department", aware of this scam. That's scarey!
I will keep up on any new info. Thanks for posting! | |
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 |  LeilaniAD
join:2004-07-01 Amite, LA | I received a charge from Pluto Data, Ltd. on my CC of $29.99, 3/10. I do not know who they are and am disputing. | |
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  rewket Premium join:2003-08-21 Longueuil, QC
| heard about it The people i know that are in the cc buisness told me about this, tis a new way to make money off them without most people noticing (most people dont notice a little 30$ and when they do and they're told they bought something they just dont care)
anyway imo anyone who gets his cc stolen is a gook, check the security of the friggin site before, if it mails your info including your cc something is wrong?
this should be dealt like spybots(ircbots) only idiots get them in most cases | |
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 |   wifi4milez In Need Of Garbage Pail Kids 1st Series
join:2004-08-07 New York, NY
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Re: heard about it Thats not really a fair thing to say! Contrary to what YOU may believe a large percentage of credit card fraud is NOT due to people giving it out during phishing scams. You should really read the news before making broad comments like that. The real culprits are large, legit companies who have a lack of security on their servers. Thieves hack into the databases of everyday companies and then steal the customer data. This data includes personal details such as credit cards, birth days, and in some cases SS numbers. Look at the Paris Hilton thing if you dont believe me! These thieves then use this stolen information in scams like the one this thread is based on. While there are literally thousands or morons out there who do give up their CC information to fake websites, identity theft can happen to anyone, anywhere. I considered myself bulletproof when it came to my identity. That was before I had it stolen. To this day when I purchase products online I still click on the "contact us" link so I can get the companies phone number and then I call the order in. I was lucky that the "only" thing that happened was some kid(?) signed up for Columbia Music House and received some free CD's for about a year. I promptly called my CC company as soon as I found out about it, and then after 5 months I finally got my money back. It was a hassle, and they refuse to give me any information about the person who did it. The bottom line is that IDENTITY THEFT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE, NO MATTER HOW TECHNICALLY SAVVY THEY ARE. Report these scumbags and lets send them all to jail. What people really should do is rally together and make corporations who "lose" your data take responsibility. -- I like dogs, guns, and cheeseburgers. Whats your malfunction? | |
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 |  |   rewket Premium join:2003-08-21 Longueuil, QC | Re: heard about it ok i didnt read it whole because you obviously know NOTHING about carding
carders do get their cc's from smaller companies, ALL OF THEM all they do with big companies is scam them (paypal/ebay) | |
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 |  |  |   wifi4milez In Need Of Garbage Pail Kids 1st Series
join:2004-08-07 New York, NY
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Re: heard about it said by rewket :ok i didnt read it whole because you obviously know NOTHING about carding carders do get their cc's from smaller companies, ALL OF THEM all they do with big companies is scam them (paypal/ebay) WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN??? If you want to start out by insulting everyone who has had their identity stolen thats one thing. At least learn how to SPEAK AND WRITE IN ENGLISH so that you meaningless point makes sense. -- I like dogs, guns, and cheeseburgers. Whats your malfunction? | |
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 |  |   Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Verona, PA
edit: February 25th, @01:16PM
| said by wifi4milez :To this day when I purchase products online I still click on the "contact us" link so I can get the companies phone number and then I call the order in. You do know that that isn't going to prevent someone from hacking the companies databases and stealing your credit card, right? Read Jason Levine 's post below for why. I'll only add that many, if not most, companies call center employees are just entering an order for you over on the very same website you could of ordered on yourself, or they're using a frontend that does the exact same thing.
Back several years ago when purchasing thing over the web was just getting started; I remember reading an article where they were asking some expert (it was the head of the fraud department at visa if I remember correctly) if ordering over the web was safe; he replied that if the site was using proper encryption that it was actually safer because someone wanting to steal your card would have to work a lot harder to get your CC number than the employee you were giving the number to or the person with the scanner listening in if your calling in on a cordless. -- sprry; I kust gpt s new leubprd////////keyboard | |
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 |  |  |   simplykristi Cancer Sucks Premium join:2001-11-28 Montrose, MO | Re: heard about it It does not matter if you purchase online or offline... Anyone is a target for identity theft.
Kristi -- Team Helix | Team Ecology | |
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join:2000-10-10 Decatur, GA
| My credit card and personal info was stolen by hackers, for a ticket purchase I made at a theatre box office IN PERSON over 6 years ago. How did my credit card info get online? The Georgia Institute of Technology theatre department put all their credit card transactions, whether done online, by phone or in person, on an unsecured server that was accessible through the internet, and hackers got over 30,000 records. You'd think an institute like GA Tech, who teaches this stuff, would be on the forefront of security & technology. NOT!
For those who think credit card fraud is the fault of the cardholder, think again. I think it should be illegal to put someones information online from a transaction that was done in person or via the mail. I had no idea my information was on a server somewhere, especially for a transaction that was done so long ago. | |
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 |   oldduke
join:2001-06-15 Gulf Breeze, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| I agree 100% with wifi4milez. First, you're a very thin thinker. More to the point, though: Before Internet buying my wife bought a $20 item from Home Shopping Club over the phone as advertised on TV. About a month later Visa calls that our card is maxed. An HSC employee stole the credit card number AND all the ID info and had a ton of stuff sent to Detroit. We wanted to prosecute. Visa said no, they'd just write it off. There is as much mis-, non- and malfeasance on the industry side as there is negligence on the user side.
-- Cogito ergo sum, I think. | |
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 |   Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 Albany, NY
| As wifi4milez said, having your CC number stolen doesn't mean that you entered it into an insecure site. The store's database can be hacked. A malicious worker can obtain and sell the credit card information. In many cases, the person whose card number is stolen might not have done anything wrong.
A year or so ago, my wife was trying to pay my Discover card and found out that it had been disabled by Discover. Apparently, BJ's Wholesale Club had a security breach of some sort (not involving an online store) and all of the credit card numbers used in the club (even in the physical store) during a period of time were potentially compromised.
BJ's informed the credit card companies. Discover Card took the preventative measure of cancelling the cards and reissuing new numbers. Besides being upset with them for not communicating this action to me, I was glad that they did it. Better to deal with having to wait for the new card than to deal with constant fraudulent charges. -- -Jason Levine http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/ http://www.PCQandA.com/ http://www.urateit.com/ | |
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 |  |   pcdebb Buttercup sees you Premium join:2000-12-03 Tampa, FL clubs: 
| Re: heard about it said by Jason Levine :As wifi4milez  said, having your CC number stolen doesn't mean that you entered it into an insecure site. The store's database can be hacked. A malicious worker can obtain and sell the credit card information. In many cases, the person whose card number is stolen might not have done anything wrong. Exactly. My mom's account got hit (thankfully she had less than $5) like 5 times in 10 minutes by some wankers in Belize. She doesnt even have a computer,but yet someone got her account info and printed themselves a card. it can happen to anyone -- babbling | mvm | |
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 |   DrewCapu Giant Diehard
join:2001-12-19 California clubs:
| said by rewket :The people i know that are in the cc buisness told me about this, tis a new way to make money off them without most people noticing (most people dont notice a little 30$ and when they do and they're told they bought something they just dont care) Until they realize it was for a cd or a dvd. Then they say, "What? I've never bought a cd or a dvd in my life!"
oops [RIAA & MPAA representatives enter scene] | |
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 |   Grethor Today Is A Good Day To Format
join:2004-04-14 Puyallup, WA clubs: | Leave the fine people of Vietnam out of this. | |
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  vwev1993 Premium join:2003-06-18 Mesa, AZ
| "Employees" I read the whole threads last night. The "employees" that the story quoted from became members to this site just so they can post as a member. They claimed they just "employees" and do not have any contact info for Pluto. I smell something bad. I agree with legalbegal. Everyone who becomes the victim of this crime should report Answer Quick to authority so that they got investigated. | |
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 |  JPCass
join:2001-01-23 Denver, CO
| Re: "Employees" If I recall, one of the postings in the original thread indicated that the "answering service" had to ask for the whole credit card number to look up transactions - not the transaction number. That sounds fishy to me, or at least poorly set up and potentially dangerous. | |
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  StudioTech Virtual Channel or RF?
join:2001-10-10 Edison, NJ
| Use virtual numbers if possible If you have a credit card that allows you to generate a virtual account number, then do so for all your online transactions. You can set a spending limit and set it so that the number can only be used at a particular merchant (Citibank does this for example). This way if that number gets stolen, the thief will have a harder time trying to use it. | |
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 |   Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 Albany, NY | Re: Use virtual numbers if possible I totally agree. It's just too bad you can't use a one time use number at a physical store. It can reduce your risk from online shopping significantly though. | |
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 |  NAKByte
join:2004-04-11 San Jose, CA
| Before signing up for Citibank's Universal Card Virtual Account Number (VAN) service, read the user agreement very carefully.
If your credit card # gets stolen, your liability under CitiBank's "0 liability" policy seems to be just that ($0) if it is reported to Citibank upon discovering it. I believe that Federal law also has a cap ($50?).
On the other hand, the VAN user agreement seems to make the cardholder responsible for any charges incurred due to compromise of their VAN userid/password (such as via keyloggers, shoulder surfers, et al). It may be that this liablity is also limited by the Federal law, but I Am Not A Lawyer so don't feel comfortable speculating/relying on that. | |
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  CapnKrunch
@dsl.net
thumbs down from: Andrew J 
| Safety First "anyone who gets his cc stolen is a gook"
unfortunately, even if you use every security measure known in existence, it doesnt mean that the company you trust to do the same with your information actually does! | |
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 |  bmn ? ? ? Premium,ExMod 2003-06 join:2001-03-15 hiatus
·Packet8
·Cox HSI
| Re: Safety First I think the above bears repeating, so.....
said by CapnKrunch:
unfortunately, even if you use every security measure known in existence, it doesnt mean that the company you trust to do the same with your information actually does! -- 64 bit CPUs and OSes? That's so 1996. Viva La Fee' Verte! | |
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 |  |   Reg Mauler Premium join:2004-01-06 Back in ND | Re: Safety First Absolutly. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. | |
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  rogue_ I Have A Secret Window Premium join:2001-10-17 Lake Hiawatha, NJ
| What do they have in common? Hmm.. What do all these people who have had their CC's stolen have in common?
Did they buy tool points at BBr?
Did they buy hardware from Newegg?
Maybe a book from Amazon?
Does anyone know? -- Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. | |
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 kenyg
join:2001-02-09 Hatboro, PA
| I'm not a gook Last summer, while preparing for tradeshow my company was attending, I FAXED my credit card info to the company running the exhibition, to pay for electrical power. I used a card with a small balance. It was the only time in 2004 that I had used that card.
Several days later, on the way back, I got a call from my wife saying someone from a software company had called saying my card came back as over the limit, and did I want to use another card.
So I called the guy and he said my cc nr was used on his website to order $1500 worth of help desk software. Not me - he was very helpful, and was able to look up the IP address on the transaction - which came back to a car dealership. I contacted the car dealership, and also the exhibition company - and neither could help me - without a name. Being as no charges were actually made - there really was no damage done. The exhibition company told me that without a name - they didn't really have much to go on. Someone at there company must have copied the fax or something. The car dealership was really upset - but the owner assured me that they would have no use for a software suite such as that.
I cancelled the card that day - but If I had used a different card with a larger limit - it would have gone through. And if I had used my company Amex, with no limit - there could have been some real damage done.
Not much you can do to protect yourself against dishonest employees. -- aye aye captain! | |
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 |  TwoMatchMike
join:2005-02-23 Severna Park, MD
| I'm not a gook either. What's a gook, anyway? As one of the people hit by Pluto Data, I can say that I only used that credit card online at large "reputable" companies. I used it a fair amount in bricks-and-mortar too.
Pretty nearly anywhere that you use your credit card, you expose it to potential compromise. Every so often, you will hear a news story about a department store clerk or a restaurant waiter getting caught with a "skimmer"- a card reader that captures the data on the magnetic stripe so it can be used to make a bogus card. Years ago, "Legion of Doom" used to hack AT&T's phone switches and listen in on mail-order catalog transactions to collect credit card numbers.
In this case, the scheme is only profitable if the crooks have thousands of card numbers to work with. That suggests that they stole records from a ligit merchant (either by hacking or by inside help).
The only really effective protection is to monitor your billing statements closely and make sure that you recognize every charge. If you don't, call your credit card issuer and let them sort it out.
-Mike | |
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 |  |   91439306 15,000 Watts of Bass Power
join:2002-10-16 New Milford, CT
| Re: I'm not a gook either. What's a gook, anyway? According to the original story last night, you don't even need a CC to have this happen. They suspected that an information clearing house (Choice Data?) like Equifax, had sold information to an illigitimate company, who used that info to access 145,000 credit card holders' information. That information could also have been used to take out new CCs on people who never had them but had sufficient credit to obtain cards. That's what's so dangerous about this info leak. -- Take care,
Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
Hear my Kurzweil Creations at: »www.dv-clips.com/theater.htm '»www.mwcomms.com/auctions.htm '»www.mwcomms.com '»www.adventuresinanimemusic.com
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 |  |  |   izy Premium,MVM join:2000-09-21 Naples, FL
| Re: I'm not a gook either. What's a gook, anyway? Exactly what this scam is about. Stories are just starting to come out about this scam and evidently some 145,000 people in all 50 states have had information "stolen"
Here's ChoicePoints statement about what happened. »www.choicepoint.com/news/stateme···5_1.html
Also, several news stories on the topic. »news.google.com/news?q=choicepoi···N&tab=wn -- "There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot." ~Steven Wright | |
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 |  |  |  |   Aussie Chick
@com.au
| Pluto Data Ltd Theft Downunder People all over the world are being targeted..... I am from Australia and I know of a few people here being scammed by these crooks.
Thankfully my partner noticed this odd charge on my debit card statement. He had never heard of Pluto Data Ltd and done the logical thing - search Google. and there it was. Credit Card Fraud.
It is not just the Americans being ripped off by these criminals. It is possibly world wide. | |
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 |  |   jonmines
join:2003-11-10 Seattle, WA | The Meaning of "gook" The term "gook" is a derogatory/racial slur used to describe people of Asian birth. Used most commonly to describe North Vietnamese soldiers in the Vietnam War. | |
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  Deca2499
@155.45.x.x
thumbs down from: Andrew J 
| Fake CC charges. With regards to the fax number being copied.. I went with my parents to visit a friend over a holiday weekend in another part of the state a few years ago. While on the trip the only person with somewhat of an Internet connection (dial-up to my place of employment) was me on my laptop. A few days after we got back, my mother was going thru her debit card statement online balancing her checkbook and came across a weird charge. It was a charge made while visiting friends. Interesting part was.. It was a subscription to Playboy online. Come on now. 50-something yr old woman subscribing to playboy? We took a closer look at what happened, on top of canceling the card and disputing it with the bank and found that in the course of the trip, we had made a few purchases using the card. (gas, meals, lodging.) a few of the CC receipts had the FULL card number with exp. date on the receipt. We figure someone copied the number from the receipt and made the fraudulent charge.. Now we never go without blacking out the number before giving back the receipt. We checked it out and found that it was legal to do this. It is not hard to copy something off paper once it is down.
I hope this person (persons) are caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent.. (death would be good.. )
Scott | |
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 |  friscotx64
join:2005-01-24 Frisco, TX
| Re: Fake CC charges. I have had several experiences in which Pay-at-the-Pump gas stations issued a paper receipt which clearly showed my entire credit card number, full name, and card expiration date!!
I encourage all to: #1: Make the station manager aware of the fact that this is totally unacceptable, including formally complaining to their corporate offices, and #2: Immediately stop doing business with that location - and/or that brand - until they change to a more secure system.
FriscoTX | |
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 |   Fix it
@68.23.x.x | For almost a year, the merchants were not to print the beginning of the credit card number. All the merchant has to do is call his bank, and the bank can quickly fix the receipt his machine issues. Simple. | |
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 lordfly
join:2000-10-12 Homestead, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| Automatic Protection Two years ago my wife and I had two credit card numbers stolen. Actually they were virtually stolen. No number was given out and there were no on-line transactions. Through a card reader, I believe through a particular gas station that my wife used, a duplicate card was created. Luckily both CC companies caught it and called us directly.
Now I have double protection, both through Equifax and First USA (now Bank One (now Chase)). You set a limit, say $2.00. As soon as a transaction happens, you get an e-mail, instantly. You can have it sent to your cell phone if you like. The Equifax protection works for more than CCs, it is definately worth the cost.
Identify theft sucks, but you just learn to be on top of everything all the time. | |
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 |  haertig
join:2000-12-31 Broomfield, CO
| Re: Automatic Protection said by lordfly :Now I have double protection, both through Equifax and First USA (now Bank One (now Chase)). You set a limit, say $2.00. As soon as a transaction happens, you get an e-mail, instantly. Could you explain more about what this is? Are you saying that every CC transaction above the dollar limit you specify are automatically reported to you in near-realtime via email? Isn't Equifax one of those large credit reporting agencies? I can see how your CC company might be able to provide a service like this, but fail to see how a credit reporting agency fits in. Maybe I'm confused about what Equifax is.
How much does this service cost? If it's only a specific CC vendor, who is it? Where do you sign up???!!! | |
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 |  slyphoxj
join:2002-06-23 Brook Park, OH
·AT&T Midwest
| My US Bank checking / debit card account has this feature also. I can setup an alert to email a text message to my cell phone when a withdrawal or deposit greater than, less than, or exactly equal (selectable by me) to a certain dollar amount (that I specify) occurs. I can also get an alert when an online statement is available for viewing on their Internet Banking site or when a CD is about to mature. | |
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  Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Verona, PA
edit: February 25th, @01:30PM
| You do all know... ...that Visa, and I imagine most other CC systems, have zero liability protection as long as you report the fraud to the bank within a reasonable amount of time. That's for any card that has the visa logo on it even if it's not really a credit card (such as a debit, or check cards) -- sprry; I kust gpt s new leubprd////////keyboard | |
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 |   Ark
join:2002-06-08 Hudsonville, MI | Re: You do all know... From what I've seen, zero liability is not the default. Most CCs I've seen have a $50 minimum the user of the CC is responsible for if the card is stolen. Debit cards users are usually SOL since the bank will typically not reverse any charges. | |
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 |  |   Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Verona, PA
edit: February 25th, @02:22PM
| Re: You do all know... VISA has zero liability on all cards, it's a requirement of any bank using the visa logo on their cards. It was a big selling point of visa cards a couple years ago as a way of getting people to use their visa card online and hence more money from the vendors who had to pay per transaction. The only way it doesn't apply is if the fraud was for something that wasn't processed by visa (ie: when a check card is processed as an ATM card which is accompanied by using your pin)
Visa linky Mastercard linky Amex linky you can find diners club yourself damn it ^_^ -- sprry; I kust gpt s new leubprd////////keyboard | |
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 |   Ark
join:2002-06-08 Hudsonville, MI
·AT&T Midwest
edit: February 25th, @02:25PM
| ... Maybe that's why the bank replaced my ATM cards with Mastercard debit cards now... ...maybe not. I guess its been a while since I checked, but the one time I had to dispute something, the bank wasn't all that helpful. It may have neen before these things went into effect though. | |
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  Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Verona, PA edit: February 25th, @01:33PM
| BIZARRO! | |
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  st4t1c Nihilist. Premium join:2004-10-03 Boulder Creek, CA | indeed. | |
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  thongsai
join:2002-07-04 Santa Rosa, CA
| u guys know how many people have ur cc numbers? its just that most people dont try to scam with it.. imagine corrupt bank tellers..
well anytime a telemarketer calls and have ur last 4 digits of ur cc number, well guess wat, they have all the numbers but arent allowed to say it. -- »thongsai-roms.shorturl.com/ | |
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  Agent 86
| Once I had an unauthorized charge for about $20...but here's the funny part: it was $20 worth of RUBLES! It was hard to miss. So I called the CC company, and to my surprise, they didn't really care. First they tried their best to convince me that it was a legit charge (and to be fair, I'm sure they do get a lot of idiots who forget what they bought). Second they informed me that since it was only $20, the fraud would not be investigated in any way...in fact as far as they were concerned, there was no fraud, just an ordinary disputed charge. Anyway, I demanded they cancel the card (which they didn't want to do) and issue a new number. The fraudulent charge was removed, and that was that. | |
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  SBDave
@adelphia.net
| There is a big scam going around with these guys. I recd a call today from my CC $29.99 was charged to it, this is a card that has not been used for over 2 years. I decided to check my other cards and poof... there is another $29.99 from these guys to another card of mine. I am NOT an online shopper, so the case of it being an online source only may be incorrect. The only online co that had access to these cards was... was AOL? any of you?
dave | |
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 |   Toadally Phake
| Re: Pluto Data The probable source of these CC numbers in NOT hackers ... it's an employee of a medium to large company who needs some extra money and has access to a large number of CC numbers, as customer information or billing informaiton.
It is not necessary to have full access to the database: any "report" you can generate that has enough data to bill from would do, if you could save it or print it. And many, many employees can generate reports and some know how to save them as files. | |
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 |   slickrock2999
@170.49.x.x | Re: Pluto Data $29.95 Bingo! I was trying to figure out where it may have come from. AOL may be it. | |
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 |  |   Amysh
@comcast.net | Re: Pluto Data $29.95 I just found the same charge on my Capital One account and have NEVER had an AOL account.
Have bought from NewEgg, however, although I'm not sure it was on this card.
On hold with Capital One now. | |
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  WindyCityCitizen
| I got hit with the $29.99 charge on 2-22-05, too. I do shop online a lot, but I'm very careful about using only secure sites. (Can "https" be falsified?) I refused to provide info to Wagglepop, when they asked for it, and made no transactions there. I also don't use AOL.
Let's see how many of us get the letter this week informing us that our data was compromised by ChoicePoints --though the latest reports have indicated that the warnings were issued to only a small fraction of the population effected...
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 |   Sammer
@boeing.com
| Damn, got me too I just found the 29.99 charge on my checkcard today. Pluto Data Ltd. Googled the name and found you guys.
I don't use that card for anything, especialy AOL. I would love to know if this is related to choicepoint. Shouldn't it be fairly easy to track down the account that is receiving these funds? | |
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