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Adds Bit Torrent, but also adware
(old news - 12:01PM Saturday Feb 12 2005)
tags: Fileswapping · software
P2P News site Slyck follows the strange life of Morpheus, a p2p app that started as an OpenNap network dubbed "MusicCity," migrated to the FastTrack network, was kicked off said network, lost its popularity, and now is looking to integrate Bit Torrent functionality. While the company hopes to regain popularity, the fact the new version installs SeekerBar and DirectPeer will likely mean its resurgence is over before it begins.

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Sean

join:2004-01-23
Ottawa

Adware doesn't work.

Adware doesn't work like it used to. Even the novice user's heard atleast SOMETHING about adware and no enough that unless it has "Lite" attached to it, don't download it!
whocares
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thats because

what I HAVE LEARNED IS,(having used 2 o/s win98se & winxp home) the the NEW adaware se ,9when useing win98se) adaware is slow & run/stop,run stop,but when this SAME adaware is tried in winxp, it runs FAST & smooth, so that tells me it caters more to winxp then other versions of windows, jazzy
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one_bored_si

join:2003-03-10
Montebello, CA

Re: thats because

read the article, they're talking about ADWARE included in Morpheus. Not about Adaware the program.

Ark

join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI

Morpheus

*grumble* Stole my name... »www.morpheussoftware.net/
whocares
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Re: Morpheus

thanks but even when running adaware-se,(without morpheus) now on win98se it runs in spurts only, but when I tried it on winxp,up until last week,ran fast & steady, as far as morpheus, (tried that a cple of weeks ago all i kept getting when you open it was voice NOTTTTTTT----THIN,then a popup IE6.1 error message, so got rid of p2p sharing/morpheus, jazzy"
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Ark

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Hudsonville, MI

Re: Morpheus

What the heck are you talking about? Morpheus is an image animation program that lets you morph pictures. Its existed since before Napster even.

Morph8534

@rr.com
The adware that is typically included in Morpheus actually isn't being installed as of the time of this post, due to a dispute with the adware providers. It might return at any time without notice.
NuclearEvolu

join:2004-01-27
Canada

eXeem clone, dead ahead

The bittorrent network as we know it is collapsing around us.

All I see Morpheus adding is an exeem clone. nothing more, nothing less. (well, maybe more spyware, who knows)

What we need is a torrent search program that is decentralized and offers encryption. I dont need it to download the files. That's why I have Azureus...

Combat Chuck
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Re: eXeem clone, dead ahead

said by NuclearEvolu See Profile:

The bittorrent network as we know it is collapsing around us.
Ummm.... NO!!!

The BT protocol as a means of distributing files one doesn't have the right to distribute (and therefore as a means of obtaining said files irregardless of your right to possess them) may be collapsing (the protocol wasn't designed to be anonymous or covert in any way), however BT as a means of distributing legal files is thriving and I suspect will continue to do so for quite some time as Bittorrent, unlike other methods, has proven it's legitimacy.
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NuclearEvolu

join:2004-01-27
Canada

Re: eXeem clone, dead ahead

said by Combat Chuck See Profile:

said by NuclearEvolu See Profile:

The bittorrent network as we know it is collapsing around us.
Ummm.... NO!!!

The BT protocol as a means of distributing files one doesn't have the right to distribute (and therefore as a means of obtaining said files irregardless of your right to possess them) may be collapsing (the protocol wasn't designed to be anonymous or covert in any way), however BT as a means of distributing legal files is thriving and I suspect will continue to do so for quite some time as Bittorrent, unlike other methods, has proven it's legitimacy.
Yes, that's what I meant. The means of illegal distribution is collapsing. I'd say that 90% of all bittorrent traffic was illegal.

But do you really think they designed morpheus/exeem for the distribution of legal files?

once everyone discovered how great BT was for downloads, pirates capitalized on it.

Im snot a thief or w

Re: eXeem clone, dead ahead

tit snot the adware you gotta be warey of.. tit's the server logs... if you don't beleive me take a read about WTF happened at Lokitorrent!
williamgates

join:2005-02-10
Redmond, WA


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re: loki

Slyck news - LokiTorrent caves to MPAA

The owners of illegal websites are willing to sell the server logs to the *AAs along with the source code. eXeem(which was developed from SuprNova) and Morpheus will probably do the same if they get enough money.

lyls

@tele.dk

Re: re: loki

uhm lokitorrent was JUST a site with BT thingies it didnt develop anything like exeem afaik

Karl Bode
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quote:
The bittorrent network as we know it is collapsing around us
That certainly is the desired impression, anyway.

dslwanter
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Morpheus

If you're smart you can put up the with adware, I have no problem with it, you just need to put up with it.
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DraconSlayer

join:2004-03-03
Schiller Park, IL

ah Morpheus

Poor morpheus, tries to get up from a pile of shit

Iminyourpc

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Re: Morpheus

Put up with spyware? I don't think so!

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Re: Morpheus

said by Iminyourpc:

Put up with spyware? I don't think so!
I said ADWARE. If your that dumb to not remove the spyware after you download it then God help you! It's not that hard.
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Thaler
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Re: Morpheus

Is there a difference? They both track your online browsing habits, and bring your computer to a crawl. So what if you want to label it "Ad", "Spy", "Mal", "Crap" -ware, it's still just a virus with an EULA attached.

If you're dumb enough to willingly install this crap into your system, then please don't whine when you find yourself having to reformat just to get these hidden sh*tpiles out of your OS.

dslwanter
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Re: Morpheus

Yes there is a difference, spyware downloads on your computer and adware is just online. I haven't had a problem with Morpheus at all because I BLOCK them both.

This is why people should have a computer licence!
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Thaler
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Re: Morpheus

said by dslwanter See Profile:

Yes there is a difference, spyware downloads on your computer and adware is just online.
What in Zeus' butthole does that mean? Don't you have to download both, and don't they BOTH operate while online?

This is like saying there's a difference between cars and motorcycles, because one drives on paved surfaces, and the other one drives on roads. o_O

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Re: Morpheus

Well gee I have had morpheus for I don't know how long and have never had to reformat my drive. There are no hidden applications running. And what's up with the o_O, what are you 12?
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said by dslwanter See Profile:

Yes there is a difference, spyware downloads on your computer and adware is just online. I haven't had a problem with Morpheus at all because I BLOCK them both.
Adware and Spyware are the same thing except that Adware does not hide or attempt to trick you into installing it, spyware tries to install covertly.

That's a big difference as one lets you decide what you want to do, the other attempts to deny you the choice. However there is so much confusion, and so many out there who think everything should be totally free; that adware has gotten an undeserved bad reputation.
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Thaler
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Re: Morpheus

I think the problem though, is so many software distros label themselves as Adware, and Spyware-free...but then the included Adware is just as bad as any malware out in the open.

Maybe if Adware really had to mmean that it is simply ad-supported-software, people wouldn't be so quick to pool it into the same realm as crapware.

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Re: Morpheus

Adware, if done properly, would be only ads that are
displayed within the window of a program supported by
it, and nowhere else. That means no popups, no tracking
outside the program itself, no browser hijacks, context
ads (ala eZula & other thiefware), or unwanted toolbars.

Morpheus appears to be in violation of the last two of
these, but at least it doesn't try to hide them (the
toolbar and the other adware in it are easily removeable
via Add/Remove Programs).
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Thaler
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Re: Morpheus

Will it let you still run the program after uninstalling said Adware? If I remember KaZaA correctly, it would whine and kavitch if you removed it's adware partners.

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Re: Morpheus

said by Thaler See Profile:

Will it let you still run the program after uninstalling said Adware? If I remember KaZaA correctly, it would whine and kavitch if you removed it's adware partners.
First of all adware doesn't "install" on your computer, that is spyware that installs. Spyware came with it at first, but I disconnected off the internet, ran my spyware scans, looked in all the program files and deleted all the spyware. I have absolutely no spyware on my computer and I am currently using morpheus. There is at least 3 banner ads with some pop up ads, but I have a pop up blocker, so guess what, I am riding just as good as anyone that bought the morpheus ultra software. Only thing I really have is banner ads like you would get on a website.
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The adware is not the only problem with Morpheus

Trying to connect to too many networks at once with this
program (version 4.7) is another. It connects to G2 & G1
Gnutella networks, eDonkey, BitTorrent, Neonet and
Fasttrack. A p2p client works best in its own network,
according to one user review at download.com. If a user
connects to all of them, it really eats up system resources.
It also seems to have a problem with its implementation of
the GnucDNA G2 (Gnutella) protocol. A few user reviews over
at download.com indicate they have been unable to download
anything with this program.
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Jon Geb
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join:2001-01-09
Howell, MI

Re: The adware is not the only problem with Morpheus

I use Morpheus and its better then anything I have seen to date.....even old napster.
xm4yh3mx

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Ah...Opennap

I remember the morpheus of opennap, named MusicCity. I was using the napster/napigator combo to log on the servers. I used audiognome too. It was nice I even remember the day when the administrators announced users to start using the software dubbed morpheus. They then limited file sharing to 1. Then they shut down their opennap servers.

cork1958
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Re: Ah...Opennap

said by xm4yh3mx See Profile:

I remember the morpheus of opennap, named MusicCity. I was using the napster/napigator combo to log on the servers. I used audiognome too. It was nice I even remember the day when the administrators announced users to start using the software dubbed morpheus. They then limited file sharing to 1. Then they shut down their opennap servers.
The Morpheus of opennap/MusicCity was an excellent p2p. Best there was at that time, but Morpheus has been nothing but a big POS since and still is. I will not use a program that even suggests it installs adware/malware/anyware type things.
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xm4yh3mx

join:2005-01-11
Princeton, NJ
yea i kno it is a total failure. W/ the spyware they are trying to take advantage of naive home users

thender2
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From mediocre fastrack client, to bad gnutella..

..to a bad BT client.

When will they give up?

Kazaa lite > morpheus

gnucleus > morpheus

exeem lite and ABC > morpheus

They just won't give up.

Transmaster
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Wizard One

join:2005-02-14
Thousand Oaks, CA

Investigate Prior to Contempt

There are so many inaccuracies in many of these threads, so let's take it from the top (sorry for the length--but if you want to know what's going on, here are the details-if not, then just don't read any further):

1) EXEEM CLONE- NOT. Morpheus provides a decentralized way for users to search for torrents. Unlike Exeem, Morpheus searches existing torrents. You can also download multiple torrents simultaneously. Not only can you download .torrent files, search results include up-to-date seeder and leech counts. This is real time whereas websites that host torrent files sometimes have out-of-date info and broken links. Also, since Morpheus is 100% decentralized, users never "log onto a central website" where logs are maintained and a users presence can be established, such as LokiTorrent.

2) ADWARE- NOT. The free version of Morpheus is AD-SUPPORTED, but it does not include adware software code. Morpheus displays banner ads, just like 98% of every internet website in existence. Morpheus has elected not to include adware software (but does include two bundles—see below) with the program. Morpheus killed pop-up ads months ago. BTW, Google and Overture serve up contextual ads to you whenever you visit a website that is partnered with them--which include most websites and certainly all the popular ones--and no one labels these sites as "adware or spyware" laden.

3) SPYWARE - ? The free version of Morpheus is supported by advertising and 3rd party bundle revenues. There are currently two bundle partners whose software is distributed with Morpheus. These two bundles can be easily removed by going to your WINDOWS>CONTROL PANEL>ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS. Morpheus even includes a Q&A for those users not familiar with this feature. You don't need a spyware removal program to remove the two (and there are only two) bundles + Morpheus runs with or without the bundles. Also, Morpheus does not allow spyware to be part of the bundles and its partners alter their regular software to adhere to Morpheus policy. But everyone has a different def of Spyware - we believe that if a program does not report back specific user identifiable info to a central source, then it is not spyware...but since others will argue, that is why I've attached the "?" to the above. BTW, the current 4.7 has NO bundles whatsoever--but this will only be for a short time - so reports here about "spyware" in 4.7 are erroneous and the posters did not bother to even download the software without trying it--just writing a bunch of BS - that's really lame. If you want to blast us, at least try the software first and don't make a bunch of stuff up.

4) GNUTELLA SUCKS - NOT. There has been a tremendous amount of effort put into the Gnutella code by companies such as LimeWire and BearShare, as well as open source developers such as Swabby and his GnucDNA. Gnutella has become a reliable P2P network and has tons of users. Morpheus incorporates all the recent improvements of GnucDNA -- and supports its development, which is then made available to the Open SOurce community.

5) NEOnet - NEW. Since October, Morpheus has also included connectivity to the new NEOnet P2P Network which uses DHT technology. It works well as you will see tons of search results and reliable download success.

6) MULT-NETWORKS hog resources - TRUE. That is why Morpheus has turned off by default connections to eDonkey and FastTrack--way too much of a hog with them turned on. If the user wishes, they can be enabled. Morpheus only has connectivity to NEOnet, Gnutella, G2 and BT by default. Memory issues are minimal compared with the number of search results obtained.

7) Ad-Free - Bundle Free Morpheus Ultra - We need the financial support that the ads and bundles bring us to pay salaries, rent and legal expenses. For users that don't like these bundles or ads, we have Morpheus Ultra for $19.95. Many users have purchsed Ultra and we thank them for their financial support. We also thank those users that download the free version of Morpheus and don't remove the bundles. This money is our life-line. While others (such as iMESH, LokiTorrent, AudioGalaxy, Napster, Scour, etc), have given in to the threats and lawsuits of the entertainment industry, Morpheus has stood its ground and fought. We won two landmark US Federal Court decisions and now defending ourselves at the Supreme Court next month. This litigation is not cheap--millions and millions of dollars--but we have not turned away from the challenge. In doing so, our legal victories have enabled other P2P developers the freedom to innovate w/o being sued. We are the only ones standing between the bullies and the rest of the P2P development community. If we were not there, spending money defending ourselves and winning, the others would fall like dominos. And yes, we are a corporation and we wish to make profits for our investors, shareholders and employees.

That's enough for this post, if there is anything that has not been addressed, post it and I'll try to respond...and try Morpheus 4.7 to give us the kind of meaningful feedback we'd like to see so that we can continue to improve the product.

longstreet

join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX

Re: Investigate Prior to Contempt

Wiz . . .

Pathetic. Nobody here believes your drivel. Morpheus is dead, steaming pile of dogshit. Unless your trying to convince 12 years olds on DSLR, you are not fooling anyone.

Do not install Morpheus or any other Ad-ware supported P2P on your computer if you know what's good for you. Morpheus is in bed with the enemy, not helping us fight them.
Wizard One

join:2005-02-14
Thousand Oaks, CA

Re: Investigate Prior to Contempt

Longstreet,

Where do you get off making this statement:

Morpheus is in bed with the enemy, not helping us fight them.

Are you living in a cave somewhere? Get real.

As far as who is sleeping with the enemy, take a close look at iMESH - who settled with the RIAA for $4.1 million and pumping out their software like there is no tomorrow. Shades of LokiTorrent?

Morpheus has been fighting this battle since October 2001 -- and winning!!!! We are fighting it all the way to the Supreme Court. We know which bed we are in and shame on you for suggesting otherwise. It's one thing not to like our software (even though you obviously have come to the conclusion w/o trying it), but don't go making up garbage about things you know nothing about.

- Wiz

longstreet

join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX

Re: Investigate Prior to Contempt

Pity on those of you that believe this guy, there's way better FREE + NO AD programs out there . . . they are using your money to fight a lawsuit for their legal blunders . . . for stuff you can get for free . .hey if you want to give them money, feel free.

May Torrents, IRC, and Soulseek live forever. ....!!!1 And shell accounts . . .from Europe . . . and spoofing . . .DUMB PEOPLE BUY YOUR SOFTWARE

JE
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Will TRY

Ol Morpheus is back? Who rememnbers the Morpheus/WinMX wars back in the day?

I'll try it out.

JE
Can I Taste It? Mmmm
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Re: Will TRY

Tried, Like! FAST VROOM VROOM downloads!

JE

daysy

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Morpheus

Im tired of surching for a morpheus that works ...Does anyone know the best website to download Morpheus? I know the new version sucks but a few weeks ago for some reason i downloaded a morpheus that was not the same as the one I downloaded from Morpheus.com website.. I can't remember the site but the only deference was that when opening the homepage on morpheus it showed a deferente advertisment like the one from morpheus.com anyways if this sounds comfusing ignore it i just want to download a morpheus that WORKS. In Case you know what i mean the website of the morpheus i want showed a monster i believe this was an advert for a game. This one actually worked for me
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