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Placentia, CA | Unbundle our landlines Yes get rid of the landlines. Why should we pay for a landline if we just want DSL?
More money for the Bells! | |
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Lexington, KY | Re: first post ever YEAH, some of us got TWO a**holes. Aint we lucky. | |
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I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs: | Re: 1st p0Sz 7u$er said by jared564564:
getting rid of landlines is a good thing in my opinion
Like the cable landline you have? | |
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No Guru Just Here To Help
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| Re: first post ever Let us hope that this user has now gotten this bull---- out of their system now.
Now lets get back on topic. My household dropped the landline almost a full year ago. 2/24/2004. Been pretty much smooth sailing. I think it would nice to see providers go with devices that have a built in battery backup. Or in some way provide battery backup. Like most of the cable company and Verizon FIOS are doing.
A few major issues seem to concern users who want to switch. Reliability ( is it going to be as stable as my landline ), 911 access and call quality. All of which are very reasonable. Many VOIP companies have had growing pains. The VOIP forum here shows this. It'll be interesting to see how things play out over the next few years.
I think most people will just pay a higher rate and go with what their cable provider is offering. This seems to be the trend at this time.
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| Well good. When you need 911 and they need to pinpoint your info, then we'll see what you think. Internet connection go down? So will you're VOIP and don't even get me started on cell phones.
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Middletown, CT | Re: Well good. What about phone service from the cable companies? I have to believe that is pretty reliable (although I could be wrong). You could port your number - goodbye landline... | |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
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Lowellville, OH
·Armstrong Zoom In..
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| Re: Well good. said by chris  :What about phone service from the cable companies? I have to believe that is pretty reliable (although I could be wrong). You could port your number - goodbye landline... errrmmm thats VOIP. Nothing can be a replacement for the landline, nothing. Remember, your landline doesn't rely on electricity or signal strength.
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Jim Gurd
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Plymouth, MI
·Comcast
| Around here Comcast uses a Western Electric 5ESS digital switch for handling calls. They have a battery backup that lasts 8 to 10 hours according to their website. I'm not sure where the battery is though. Is it on the homeowner's property or in the CO itself? Does anybody know?
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Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26
| Re: Well good. said by Jim Gurd :Around here Comcast uses a Western Electric 5ESS digital switch for handling calls. They have a battery backup that lasts 8 to 10 hours according to their website. I'm not sure where the battery is though. Is it on the homeowner's property or in the CO itself? Does anybody know? » www.telcodata.us/switchinfo.html···esults=1 Humm...a 5ESS Lucent is switch (also used by CLEC and ILEC) in the CO itself, on the ISP end. It's usually protected from power outage using huge generators that can run without interruption if they are supplied in fuel. Here's a picture:
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| Re: Well good. What a pretty picture. I have a CO that looks just like it. As far as power goes, Central Offices that are categorized by the FCC as Class 4/5 have several powering and environmental codes to conform to. Within the CO environment controls have very specific ranges. They are also sensitive enough that in most COs cell phones are not permitted. They are powered by batteries 100% of the time to control power fluctuations. These batteries are huge and are constantly kept charged by traditional power but are backed up by at least 1 generator. In our case we have a diesel generator and a natural gas generator backup. The 8 to 10 hours that is being referred to is the battery backup units in the field. In order to take the central office funcionality closer to the customer (reduce loop lengths) the "Node" technology was developed. These nodes traditionally are powered via traditional power and backed up by a battery pack. Most solid telephone companies that use this technology have multiple mobil generators and a disaster plan to keep the batteries in these nodes charged in case of a long power outage. | |
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Plymouth, MI
·Comcast
| said by Corvus : Humm...a 5ESS Lucent is switch (also used by CLEC and ILEC) in the CO itself, on the ISP end. It's usually protected from power outage using huge generators that can run without interruption if they are supplied in fuel. Yes, you're right that it is a Lucent switch. Western Electric is the old Bell System name.
My question was about how cable telephone service provides power to the phone itself in the event of a power failure. On a conventional POTS line the CO provides DC voltage over the copper wires. Because cable uses fiber which doesn't conduct electricity there must be an alternate power source for the phone itself.
Now I'm just guessing at this point but there must be some device which connects the fiber cable to the copper in your house in order to power the phone and convert the analog signals to digital so it can be passed over the fiber cable. I assume it uses regular AC power and has a battery backup in the event of a power failure. This is a separate battery from what would be used by the central office on the actual switch itself. | |
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Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Well good. Like this? Power comes from POTS line, phone goes out over coax.
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| said by Jim Gurd :Now I'm just guessing at this point but there must be some device which connects the fiber cable to the copper in your house in order to power the phone and convert the analog signals to digital so it can be passed over the fiber cable. I assume it uses regular AC power and has a battery backup in the event of a power failure. This is a separate battery from what would be used by the central office on the actual switch itself. We (the cable company I work for) use backup units in poles to protect important devices such as optical transceivers and amplifiers.
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Schenectady, NY | Maybe Time Warner should get Comcast to help them I have friends who use Time Warner Digital phones and they have static that I find unbearable. | |
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The Lou
1 edit | "errrmmm", that's not VoIP. It's actually runs over a different signal path than HSI service. Kinda like getting phone/DSL service over a RT.
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Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
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| said by dslwanter :Remember, your landline doesn't rely on electricity... What you actually mean is that it does not rely on utility power...the landline phone uses electricity from batteries located at the Central Office (CO).
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| To say "nothing" can replace the landline is a little silly. No one knows what will be out there years from now.
And from a practical standpoint today, the more people who ditch their phone companies the better. Finally give them some competition and make them respond to the consumer. Those are the same bastards who had people renting their phones, remember. | |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
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Lowellville, OH
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| Re: Well good. When it comes down to it, your landline will be the best and you all know it. Plain and simple, oh and by the way, most CO's have generators.
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Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Well good. My CDP service blows anything SBC offers out of the water!
*NO*(as in Nada, Zero, Ziltch) phone service from a telco here. All coax! 
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Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
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Lowellville, OH
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1 edit | Re: Well good. said by dadkins :My CDP service blows anything SBC offers out of the water! *NO*(as in Nada, Zero, Ziltch) phone service from a telco here. All coax! It's people like you that make me laugh. I'm not saying anything against these services Im saying keep your landline and the cheapest God forbid there's an emergancy and you have no power or no cell phone signal.
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Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | Re: Well good. People like *YOU* make me laugh! Do you even know what Comcast Digital Phone service is?
Power can go out(has once for 18 hours) CDP(Comcast Digital Phone) was still working!
CDP is *NOT* VoIP!
CDP is everything that a standard landline is, except it's digital and uses the cable(coax) that I get my TV and HSI from!
911 *DOES* see my address if I call them/it!
My CDP has *NEVER* been down!(can't say the same about SBC, that's why we switched to CDP!)
Here: »www.comcast.com/Support/Corp411/···9_0.html
Do some reasearch before you post!
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join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL
| Re: Well good. said by dadkins :People like *YOU* make me laugh! Do you even know what Comcast Digital Phone service is? Do some reasearch before you post! I had Comcast Digital Phone service for several years when I lived on the SW Side of Chicago.
Granted, you have a back-up battery in your house and the CO is backed up, but we suffered from frequent cable outages in my area. Guess what, cable out, phone was out.
While I think a commercial solution like Comcast DPS is better than a VoIP solution, it is not a catch-all solution.
Where I live now, we suffer from frequent utility outages due to winter storms. The only service that has yet to go out on us is the landline.
For this very reason, Comcast's phone service is not very popular in our area.
I balance two pots lines and two VoIP lines in my home (family of telecommuters). While my Vonage has been rock solid since I installed it several months ago, I will never part with at least one copper pair.
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Raynham, MA
| said by dadkins :Power can go out(has once for 18 hours) CDP(Comcast Digital Phone) was still working! CDP is *NOT* VoIP! Just for the record - almost all state regulators require public utility phone providers to have backup power on their phone lines. The VoIP guys are not public utilities in the true sense of the word - yet. Comcast (which I have) has had an excellent record, in MY experience. In the 3.5 years I've had it, only had one outage (that I'm aware of), and that was due to a truck knocking down a pole. | |
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Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA | Re: Well good. Thank you! | |
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Dragasoni
We're All Mad Here
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join:2001-12-14
Rotonda West, FL
| Re: Well good. Just to support cell phones, my cell service never missed a beat during the 4 hurricanes that hit Florida. I was in Punta Gorda the day after Charley hit, and guess what...my cell worked! It worked perfectly! But did the landlines, water, cable, or power work? Nope! Thank you Alltel!
This is the 21st century people, and landlines are OLD! Granted, I don't think they should go away, but you can't say old technology is the best technology. I can't see how an old analog landline would be better then CDP which is digital and on MUCH better cooper.
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Raynham, MA
1 edit | Re: Well good. said by Dragasoni :Just to support cell phones, my cell service never missed a beat during the 4 hurricanes that hit Florida. I was in Punta Gorda the day after Charley hit, and guess what...my cell worked! It worked perfectly! But did the landlines, water, cable, or power work? Nope! Thank you Alltel! You were lucky that the cell towers didn't get knocked down. But, you can't really believe that cell is superior to copper. Even here in the land of Kerry & Kennedy, there are cell towers every 2 to 3 miles, yet everyone I know says they hit dead spots in certain areas.
Copper wires are more reliable when viewed over a long period. To keep them from getting knocked down during horrific weather like the FLA hurricanes, they could be underground. It's just that most users would object to their phone bills tripling in cost.
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join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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Remember, your landline doesn't rely on electricity or signal strength.
Of course your landline relies on power. If the CO and any points in between your home and the CO (for example, a DLC or RT) don't have power, you don't get phone service. If the signal strength is too weak either you won't be able to hear, or you won't be heard.
The cable systems that offer digital phone may be powered by DC voltage on the cable line, much like your phone is powered from voltage on the phone line. Or the box will have a battery backup of its own. The cable company can run their stuff from a battery back up, just as the telco can.
Now, I won't argue that the telco's systems are more reliable. Two way cable systems are all relatively new and recently deployed systems. There's still bugs to work out and they're still refining the art of detecting and pro-actively repairing problems in these systems. There's a lot more stuff that can fail between the cable plant and a customer's home, vs. the plain old telephone system. I would still feel a lot more comfortable with Comcast's "digital telephone services", vs. a VOIP system.
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Douglasville, GA | your partially correct...dslwanter.....landline does require electricity.....generally rt's and co have backup...in some instances batteries don't always work.... or for that long! | |
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Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26
| said by dslwanter : said by chris :What about phone service from the cable companies? I have to believe that is pretty reliable (although I could be wrong). You could port your number - goodbye landline... errrmmm thats VOIP. Nothing can be a replacement for the landline, nothing. Remember, your landline doesn't rely on electricity or signal strength. My cable landline doesn't rely on electricity since it's protected from power outage with UPS in poles and my ISP is giving away MTA with batteries up for 7 hours.
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join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
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| Your landline has electricity. Go put your tongue on end of a bare phone wire with other end plugged into a jack and tell me what you feel..that tingling sensation is not in your pants you feel  | |
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join:2002-01-05
Monroe, MI
·Verizon Online DSL
| That's horse puckey. During the big blackout in August, my landline went down because the local CO's battery went down. Then when the power came back online, the phone was still down because the charging systems blew and it tossed the main breaker for the building.
Please, don't tell me how reliable copper is. In your neck of the woods, okay. But where I live, it's not. | |
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join:2003-12-16
Schenectady, NY | Re: Well good. My phone worked during the big blackout. Problem was you could not charge the unit. Solution plug in old fashioned corded phone. Copper very reliable in my neck of the woods. | |
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xyar
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join:2001-06-21
Portland, OR
| Technically, of course the landline relies on electricity for service, just not electricity on *your* end, that's provided by the CO or switch, who has all the backup power on their end. But I'm sure we all know what you mean | |
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join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC | My ladline doesn't rely on electricity? Really. Interesting.
Or do you mean electricity at my premisis? Maybe thats what you meant.
I've had landline outages at my home due to extended power outages in my neighborhood. | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home
| said by dslwanter :errrmmm thats VOIP. Nothing can be a replacement for the landline, nothing. Remember, your landline doesn't rely on electricity or signal strength. Wow, a POTS landline doesn't depend on electricity or signal strength?
What does it use then, magic? | |
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Premium
join:2004-04-12
Douglasville, GA
| What about phone service from the cable companies? I have to believe that is pretty reliable (although I could be wrong). You could port your number - goodbye landline...
...hardly.....cable goes down more likely everyhing else will also. nothing is more reliable than phone....my phone even worked when the power was out.... | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Well good. Actually, Cable TV can go out completely, and my CDP will keep right on working... even if the power goes out.
People need to do some reasearch on Comcast Digital Phone service before posting. My phone service from Comcast has *NEVER* been down.
TV has been out before, HSI has never been down in the two years I've had it though. The CDP is bulletproof... for me at least.
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join:2003-09-11
Marietta, GA | How did we ever live without 911? | |
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| Re: Well good. How'd we ever live without 911? Oh, you remember those awful, terrible days when we all had to memorize (!) the emergency numbers or, gasp, place stickers near the phone or magnets on the fridge. The hardship! The trauma! | |
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join:2004-10-08
Atlanta, GA | Re: Well good. Before 911, we would call the phone operator for emergencies, who would call the authorities or hospitals as needed. Back then, ATT was the only phone company, except for small areas with GTE. | |
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Canoga Park, CA | one of my cops neighbor is always home,he can call cops for me using his radio is i need help so not worry | |
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join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | Re: Well good. What if your cop friend is on duty when something bad happens?
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| Re: Well good. said by djrobx :What if your cop friend is on duty when something bad happens? one works night one works day. | |
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join:2004-01-06
Ashland, OH | Why? we would still have DSL if we could get it unbundeled. why dont they do that? atleast they could keep some money from the customer | |
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BlitzenZeus
Burnt Out Cynic
Premium,MVM
join:2000-01-13
Beaverton, OR
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| Voip is a bad idea, its dependent on broadband I would not trust only voip, power outages, bad E911 routing, etc... Even the phone service provided by cable companies, no power, no phone service...
I only have local access on my landline, and few features so it doesn't cost very much, however its more of a message phone for those who I don't want to give my cell phone number too than anything else.
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ebubman
join:2002-01-17
Enola, PA
·Comcast
·Vonage
| what's a landline? we punted our verizon landline out the front door approx 2 yrs ago. we use gsm cell phones for all voice communications & comcast for the isp thing. have we ever missed our landlines? not for a single second. we keep a prepay attws free2go line ($10 every 90 days) as a junk phone # we hand out to stores & those who like to get our #. we never answer it. i check the voice mail every week. it makes a great buffer phone. landlines are so early 1900s. verizon & the telcos would have us believe that landlines are indispensible; nothing could be further from the truth. insisting on a landline is much like insisting upon neat lines of deck chairs on the titanic; ain't much of a future in it. bub | |
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rtherocks
Premium
join:2002-09-28
Fort Lauderdale, FL
clubs: | Ditching The Bells I drop ed my land line a year ago I now use only my cell phone but I am thinking of getting VoIP.I will not go back to the Bellsouth.Thay had there run good riddens. | |
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DSLucky
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join:2002-04-23
Maud, OK
clubs:
| Re: Ditching The Bells Lessee....
1. Cell phones don't work for me anywhere within a 10 mile radius of my home.
2. VOIP (even if I had a dry DSL line) Needs power to operate the adapter, DSL modem. Not good in a flaky power situation.
3. I can get SBC Lifeline service for 1.00 per month plus fees.
So, I think my landline will be here to stay. | |
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join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA | Re: Ditching The Bells get your self good ups or house generator and you will not have to worry about power problem again | |
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join:2004-08-05
Home | A not so expensive UPS would run a VoIP adapter and a DSL modem for a long time.
If you have a power outage for longer than they can run, you probably have other things you need to worry about. | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Look at all those lemmings... ...running over the edge of the cliff.
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| How exactly are you getting your connection? Voip - Predominantly landline (cable & telephone are wires)
Other interesting observations:
Getting DSL without the local phone service, I agree,
some telcos do offer it, but expect to pick up the full
cost of the line (similar to the way T1s work).
Getting Cable Internet Access without Cable...this varies
as well. Depending on how hungry the cableco is, it could
be cheap or quite expensive.
Wireless: How predominant are the options at the moment?
How many broadband plans can competively compare to the
former two?
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join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
·Cybersurf Corporat..
| almost but not quite VOIP has some way to go. however, the bells could make it easier on us. maybe a $5.99/month emergency land line, just one phone line to an emergency phone. make it the law to have 99.99% uptime on it. when you need 911, $5.99/month would be ae very small price to pay.
i currently pay $51 a month for the most basic local calling service available, that i almost never use. bell does not make it easy. | |
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join:2001-12-06
Raleigh, NC
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·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | Re: almost but not quite Some areas provide 911 only service on old phone lines. I dropped Bellsouth about six months ago with no looking back. Bellsouth still provides me with a dial tone to 911.
When Bellsouth can provide a phone line for $29.00 a month and not $29.00 + Fees + LD + Taxes, I might reconsider them.
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What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ | It is the law here in Arizona that a phone that is hooked up to the telco must at minimum be able to dial and reach a 911 operator. Even an unactivated cell phone can call 911. | |
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An Irish Jayhawk
Premium
join:2000-10-03
| Just my thought. In distirbution it is said that," YOUR DISTRIBUTION CENTER WILL GO PAPERLESS AS SOON AS YOUR RESTROOM DOES."
Much like the landline debate...it is not going away anytime soon.
We can continue to move that way though.
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sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
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| Re: and an addendum said by rpk3:
as far as Comcast, they aren't doing Voip, but are providing similar services to the telco (sans the power feed). Telcos provide power to the phone, which keeps them up in power outages, historically. Comcast might do battery back up, but the telcos will be doing battery backup with fiber to the home installs, at present time. Some of the boxes used for Comcast Digital Phone (and the similar offerings from Cox, TWC, Knology, etc.) get their power from the cable line. It's certainly possible to do the same with VoIP services, but the MSOs are moving away from outside NID-type devices to integrated ATA/cable modem devices and moving to local battery backup as a result.
You are correct re: FTTC and FTTP...if you are on something like VZ Fios, the ONT/NID has a battery backup; if you are on FTTC like many BellSouth customers (including myself) are, the batteries are in the telco pedestals.
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markopoleo
join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| Cellphone and Cable the way to go. 3meg/356k cable connection: $35/ no contract
Cell phone: Free phone, 2year contract (woopity do) $15 a month for 900 minutes
Basic SBC landline service: $20 hookup fee, $22 a month.
SBC DSL: Can't reach house because to far away.
Im never going to have a landline again, tyvm. | |
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W8ASA
Tieng gi vay?
join:2000-07-31
Dayton, OH
clubs: | $15 per month for 900 cell minutes? What provider do you use? | |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
| No landline here.. Only cell phones...
The only advantage I see in a landline is reliability. In a sever emergency (the earth blowing up or something), odds are the landline would be the only thing working.
To me landlines are useless. | |
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ylen131
join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA | Re: No landline here.. i guess you're not from socal. After 94 earthquake land lines were dead for good time | |
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cooperaaaron
join:2004-04-10
Joliet, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
| One... On some installations for Comcast Digital Phone service, there is a small battery inside the box that is installed at the customer's home. And Comcast is doing VoIP in I think Philly, Indy and one other place, I can't remember off of the top of my head. | |
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cptmiles
Premium
join:2004-04-22
Swayzee, IN
| The Future The term "land line" is a falsehood. It is no longer a landline, but an access route. The future of telecommunications is going to be who can get you the biggest pipe for the cheapest price with the best service. This may be fiber, wireless, coax, copper, or maybe something that hasn't been invented yet. The real battle in the future will be the sale of content. You may end up with a 100M pipe going to your house for $10 a month, but it is the level of data priority and type of data feeds that you will really be paying for whether that feed is voice, data, or even video. The "big bang" theory of telecommunication companies is coming true and eventually there will be only one. | |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| So reliability is king? And...that's the only defense POTS can mount? I didn't think the standard telco product could be any more pathetic but it's obviously hit a new low.
I didn't read one post defending POTS call quality. Everyone used to claim the quality of VOIP and cell were inferior to POTS. Where did those arguments go? Personally, I've always thought that VOIP was better than POTS but my cell certainly isn't as good as POTS.
In my opinion, anyone who is overly concerned about such remote safety risks and who solely depends on one life saving mechanism is naive. VOIP + cell is more than adequate. POTS + cell is more than adequate. To make the case that POTS will be the only thing working after an earthquake/flood/tornado/hurricane/tsunami is irrational. There's no guarantee anything will work in the event of a regional disaster. Even if whatever you choose still works, the emergency services would be so overwhelmed you'd likely be on your own anyway. | |
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| baked247
Can Nib Is
join:2003-06-25
Phoenix, AZ |  Re: So reliability is king?
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | We'll probably stick to a landline We never use long distance, and we have $20 a month 60 minute tmobile cell phone in the family. So, a landline isn't really more expensive. | |
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maestro7
join:2004-08-31
Loganville, GA
| "Yes, but" -- satellite access...? One slight problem with removing local landline phone service to one's home -- satellite television! As far as I know, neither DirecTV nor DISHNetwork have any capacity to allow their respective receivers to be able to use broadband to update themselves. This means one still requires a landline to keep these devices updated.
OK, since you may have read this idea here first, whoever comes up with this solution, I get a cut for bringing up the idea!!
Enjoy,
-maestro7 | |
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| Dissman
join:2001-04-26
Youngstown, OH
| Re: "Yes, but" -- satellite access...? As for Dish Network, you ONLY need to keep the thing connected to the POTS network if you:
a) Have a multi-room box and dont want to pay the $5 fee for the second room.
b) Want to order PPV movies/events through the box and avoid a $1 fee.
c) Want it to display Caller ID information on the top of the screen.
d) Want to do your customer service stuff through the box.
Otherwise there's no need to, the channel guide updates through the sattelite. | |
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ylen131
join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA | don't use direct tv or dishnetwork use cable so no problem for me. | |
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csiemers
join:2000-09-16
Portland, OR
| Cell Reception If I could only get good reception in my house I'd ditch my land line in an instant!
To get good reception I have to go outside! At least that's one good thing! Keeps the daughter off her cell phone!
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA
| QWEST & 911 My one experience with needing 911 my QWEST landline failed to deliver.
However my cell phone got though first try and they located me quickly.
As soon as the new 900mhz WISP is up is our area bye bye landline which is mainly for modem anyway.
Oh yeah my cell phone has better sound quality as I am hearing impared it makes the cell phone much easier to use.
Flushls | |
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Real Man
@qwest.net
| Re: QWEST & 911 Nerf-World Fantasy
911 tracing is over-rated by people who want to live in a paternalist society. This same group blames everyone else for their own lack of judgement. True freedom is the liberty to be responsible for your own actions, safety and destiny. | |
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Ditching Your Landline
