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Community Wi-Fi Is Apparently Evil
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(old news - 05:17PM Tuesday Feb 08 2005)
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Last week an "expert" study attacking community broadband (and Wi-Fi) was supposed to be a major story, the incumbents who quietly funded it hoping it would be circulated virally by major new outlets as fact (which to some degree it was).

Instead (as we noted in reports on the Heartland Institute and the New Millennium Research Council) the story became how incumbents are waging a concerted disinformation campaign through front groups (see CNET, Wi-Fi Networking News, Techdirt, Eweek, Slashdot) to try and convince the public that wiring themselves for broadband is the root of all evil.

The attention apparently isn't liked by the New Millennium Research Council, the group responsible for distributing Heartland's "study". This week they pulled information (or those on it asked to be pulled) from their website concerning their "board". On that list was several names, two of which head groups with strong financial ties to Verizon Communications.

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Goober

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Surpise, surprise, surprise

"The attention apparently isn't liked by the New Millennium Research Council, the group responsible for distributing Heartland's "study". This week they pulled information from their website concerning their board of directors. On that list was several names, two of which head groups with strong financial ties to Verizon Communications"

Business as usual for nowadays. Pity . . . .

Jason Levine
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Google Cache

Google has it cached right now: »64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:1E···ml&hl=en

In case the cache dies, the names in question are:

Karen Buller
karen@numa.niti.org
President National Indian Telecommunications Institute
»www.niti.org

Barbara O'Connor
boc@csus.edu
California State University - Sacramento
»www.csus.edu

Jorge Schement
jrs18@psu.edu
Penn State University
»www.ist.psu.edu
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calvoiper

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Re: Google Cache

O'Connor, in particular, has been a well-paid Bell shill in California for years, though she will deny it.

Lately, she's been managing to avoid direct cross-examination under oath, but folks are working on this.

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said by Goober See Profile:

"The attention apparently isn't liked by the New Millennium Research Council, the group responsible for distributing Heartland's "study". This week they pulled information from their website concerning their board of directors. On that list was several names, two of which head groups with strong financial ties to Verizon Communications"
said by Jason Levine See Profile:


Karen Buller
karen@numa.niti.org
President National Indian Telecommunications Institute
»www.niti.org

Barbara O'Connor
boc@csus.edu
California State University - Sacramento
»www.csus.edu

Jorge Schement
jrs18@psu.edu
Penn State University
»www.ist.psu.edu
OK. Where are the ties to Verizon??

Minister

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Re: Google Cache

Jorge Schement is the director of Penn State's "Institute for Information Policy".

Both Verizon and Issue Dynamics (the overlords of this kind of stuff) are heavy contributors to his Institute:

»iip.ist.psu.edu/sponsors.htm

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said by Jason Levine See Profile:

Google has it cached right now...
WooHoo!! Google!!


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What else is new?

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Sallisaw pushing ahead....

None of this negative press is stopping Sallisaw, OK. They are presently rolling out a FTTH project in incremental stages. Our local news has an article here. The cool thing about this is the town is only 4100 people and the town is pretty much middle class, not too many upscale neighborhoods in that town. Also right in the middle of SBC country. Town already runs their own electric and other utilities. Suprising little resistance setting up system far as I know. They already have a independent TV cable system there in town, not Cox or any big guns like that. They just got tired of the bad service according to the news articles (can't quote specifics, but just Google "Sallisaw fiber".

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Here is a link

Event Archive page
»newmillenniumresearch.org/archive/

The anti-Muni article
Not In The Public Interest - The Myth of Municipal Wi-Fi Networks -- Why Municial Schemes to Provide Wi-Fi Broadband Services With Public Funds Are Ill-Advised

NOTE: spelling error is in the original - I just pasted the article title.

I don't have a problem with this sort of opposition research in an of itself. I think it is healthy having "the other side" trying to expose weaknesses.

What bothers me that these papers are presented as objective research rather then as partisan hit pieces.

/Tom

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Yet another example of astroturfing

This and other propagandized news releases are nothing
more than Astroturfing,
a practice that the current administration is especially
guilty of. And it seems that large corporations and so-called
but bogus "experts" are full of it - and I mean that in more
ways than one.
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claudeo

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As Goebbels would put it

...if you repeat the same lie often enough, it will start to look like the truth.
(or was that Rush Limbaugh?)

They learn from the masters...

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Re: As Goebbels would put it

said by claudeo See Profile:

...if you repeat the same lie often enough, it will start to look like the truth.
(or was that Rush Limbaugh?)

They learn from the masters...
Don't be a coward. If you think Limbaugh is lying about something, call him up and take him on directly.

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Re: As Goebbels would put it

said by footballdude See Profile:

Don't be a coward. If you think Limbaugh is lying about something, call him up and take him on directly.
you're kidding right? fatty only wants to hear people that parrot his opinion. like o'reily and the the rest of the gang at foxnews/republican news.

considering his attempt to dodge all responsibility for his prescription drug problem, this is a "man" that can't be taken seriously.

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Re: As Goebbels would put it

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fatty only wants to hear people that parrot his opinion. like o'reily and the the rest of the gang at foxnews/republican news.
Rush is on the air fifteen hours a week. Call him and tell him how lousy he is. Unless you're afraid he'll make you look foolish.

Oh, and he hasn't been fat for ten years. Try to keep up.

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said by footballdude See Profile:

Don't be a coward. If you think Limbaugh is lying about something, call him up and take him on directly.
Obviously you haven't paid attention to how his show works. People who have legitimate points, know the facts, and can articulate them well are carefully screened from being allowed to get on the air. When it comes to opposing viewpoints and political positions, what Rush screeners wait for are people who clearly have their facts wrong or mixed up, or are raving loons or off the wall opposition callers... these calls are put thru so that Rush can destroy them with ease and therefore prove to the auidence he is right and everything he says is true and that they are superior.

The people who could crush him in seconds, show up his distortions or mis-statements, and catch him in his double standards are banned and blocked.... in the rare instances one of them "stealths" their way thru (By pretending to be another ego-stroking fan) they get cut off the air BUT QUICK.

There are a bunch of reports on the internet from people who have tried to get onto his show to debate with him. Their experiences show how his show really works.
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