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BellSouth announces IPTV trials
(old news - 03:32PM Thursday Jan 06 2005)
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BellSouth today announced via press release that they are testing out a video service via ADSL2+ running Microsoft software. Last month BellSouth announced they'd be spending $2 million to offer 4-6Mbps DSL in "select areas". Many analysts are skeptical that the company's upgrades won't be enough to compete down the road, or to provide looming services like HDTV content.

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BodyBumper

join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA

Wake me up

When this is finally rolled out they've been doing this since 1997... well atleast PacificBell aka SBC
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donaldk
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Thunder Bay, ON


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January 6th, @08:21PM

Re: Wake me up

I feel sorry for Americans in that their telecom companies think in the gutter about broadband. Telus is currently ADSL as everyone know but they are planing to go straight to the FTTC/FTTH route with an agressive schedule. Currently someone posted about their beta test and it is being tested with caps set at 15Mbps/5Mbps, and that is for internet use. Video if they do it would be on top of it.

Edit: The TV is a nice option... but the bandwidth for it is what I am ranting about.

quanta
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Toronto, ON

Re: Wake me up

Bell Canada has been trialing IPTV for a little while now. Apparently IPTV uses Windows Media for compression.

DaSneaky1D
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The Lou

IPTV looks to be geat, but...

xDSL is a band-aide. There is only so much can you do with twisted copper and distance.
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eh what

@newsouth.com

Re: IPTV looks to be geat, but...

Copper has been proven to handle a max of 52MB/ps rate.
Distance is the factor that causes problems.

Doctor Olds
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1970 442 W30
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That's too little, too late!

That has to be yet another bonehead "smokey back room" decision not based on any proper "market research", but "good ole boy network" pull it out of yer hat what can we do to not deploy fiber escapism I've seen to date. Bellsouth Cable, anyone? You have to move to Alabama.

Something should be done to get Bellsouth into reality, much less "caught up with today" if they want to be viable in the future, as it comes. Someone tell them this is not the "70's Show", Please!
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Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

"Select Areas"

Maybe by "select areas" they mean areas where deploying fiber isn't economically feasible. In that copper is already strung, and barely being used, so why bother upgrading it to fiber, when they only have 3 customers using it anyway. ( Like in many areas in the "deep" south )

bigdaddy17

join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL

Re: "Select Areas"

said by Ahrenl:
Maybe by "select areas" they mean areas where deploying fiber isn't economically feasible. In that copper is already strung, and barely being used, so why bother upgrading it to fiber, when they only have 3 customers using it anyway. ( Like in many areas in the "deep" south )
Deep south eh? Im about as far south as you can go buddy and every house spaced out by a couple of feet has DSL.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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Then just string the fiber along like the copper and pull down the copper for scrap. fiber has to be rolled out. It will cost less for them to wire the rural areas since they don't have to splice at every other pole like in the city.

Most of the cost is labor that is the sad part.
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bigdaddy17

join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL

Re: "Select Areas"

Fiber is already layed out down here in South FL in the "deep south". The post I made above I meant the homes on my street or infact my whole area with fiber.
Queasy

join:2004-01-20
Lawrenceville, GA

And yet they still can't offer Xtreme via IFITL

to existing users.

Doctor Olds
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Re: And yet they still can't offer Xtreme via IFIT

That's because the port that feeds your IFITL pedestal is set at 10Mbps and it would kill off all but two (2) customers for each pedestal where they cram twenty (20) DSL/DSL-lite customers now. Bellsouth doesn't plan for growth.
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NetTech2

join:2004-04-14
Mount Olive, AL


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January 6th, @05:14PM

Re: And yet they still can't offer Xtreme via IFIT

Before any of you 'nah-sayers' get to far down the road, letting your arse overload your mouth, re-read the release:
(hint: re-read the second para about FTTC and copper pair bonding.)

"BellSouth today announced a technical trial of Microsoft® TV Internet Protocol Television (IPTV) Edition software platform, tapping the advancing capabilities of the company’s next generation broadband network. BellSouth’s fiber-rich broadband network will increasingly serve as the primary platform used to deliver cutting-edge voice, video and data services to customers.

By leveraging new DSL technologies, including ADSL2+ and copper pair bonding, and BellSouth's five million miles of fiber cabling, BellSouth intends to trial a feature-rich video offer during the first half of 2005. BellSouth will also continue to expand its fiber-to-the-curb (FTTC) network, which currently passes one million homes, to an additional 180,000 customers in 2005. BellSouth is currently completing testing of IPTV hardware and software within its labs and will later expand its trial to set-top boxes within customers homes selected for the trial. BellSouth will then evaluate further deployment based upon results of the trial.

"IPTV will potentially forever alter the way we consume video content much like personal video recorders have done, said Bill Smith, chief technology officer of BellSouth. IPTV places customers in the drivers seat and gives them complete control of their entertainment experience regardless of the media format or on which device within their home they wish to use. We're bringing together the benefits of broadband, the rapid adoption of home networking technology and the magic of software to give customers content where, when and how they want it. "
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Now, all things being equal, it takes time and money to deploy this type of infrastructure. But, some of BellSouth customers are just too impatient to understand this. Take a look at SBC..their plan to deploy fiber everywhere isn't going to happen overnight, nor within the next year! It will be a 'long-term' deployment process, just like anything else that involves major network re-configuration!

Doctor Olds
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Re: And yet they still can't offer Xtreme via IFIT

said by NetTech2 See Profile:

Before any of you 'nah-sayers' get to far down the road, letting your arse overload your mouth, re-read the release:
Only time will tell whose arse is talking. I've got dibs on Bellsouth's non-future. You got Bellsouth TV to live with. LOL
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bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA
Because the platform can not support it. You'd have to literally replace the guts of the system almost as if there was no service there. Plus you'd have no service through it for several days if lucky.
flushls

join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA

Here is how it will work

"With authority...."

Hellsouth,Southworstern Bluster Co.,QWORST etc.
Will stall, rant, whine, plead etc. then one day 4 or 5 years from now they will wake up and Indies, Rural Telcos, Fibre Coops will all be years even further ahead of them and they will wither and die on the vine.

They is a Gaelic proverb my grandfather used to quote when asked to translate into english he would say "F*ck around and soon you won't be around" as much as I am in a hurry to BB here I just soon let the RBOC taste there own fecal matter. And I don't think I will be wrong on this prediction

Doctor Olds
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Re: Here is how it will work

My "exact" sentiments! Thank you for the clarity.
Tarmax

join:2001-05-03
Fort Lauderdale, FL

where are these people?

BellSouth will also continue to expand its fiber-to-the-curb (FTTC) network, which currently passes one million homes, to an additional 180,000 customers in 2005.
lol.. passes is right.

They've been "rolling out" fiber down in Miami-Dade for the past 2 or 3 years at least now; and not 15 miles north here in Fort Lauderdale, well... you get the picture lol

..anyone know what Comcast is like down here?
Cyber2lz

join:2001-11-15
Odessa, FL

MS and BS

Now there is a perfect match !!!!
The incompetent leading the blind.
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slimpickinz

join:2003-11-29
Conyers, GA

Re: MS and BS

Good Point!!
Until (the ostrich) works toward compliancy, they will continue to lag & not lead.
And their proprietary attitude will cause them more trouble in the future. Already you cannot use their speed test »speed.fastaccess.com with Firefox, and forget loging on to DSL with anything but IE...

Anonuser

join:2003-01-03
Milwaukee, WI

Um.....

Question

"The technology, ADSL2+, will enable download speeds between 4 megabits per second and 6 mbps, and upload speeds from 512 kbps to 768 kbps, BellSouth said.

That would be up from the current maximum download speed of 3 mbps with uploads of 384 kbps available through BellSouth."

Ok, 4-6mbit, soooo, then this DSL I've had for 2 years, that would be ADSL2 then? I'm already at 6mbit for over a year!

/sarcasim
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Zoder

join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL

Re: Um.....

I believe what they mean is that 4-6 would be the data speed Bellsouth is going to sell with the rest of the available bandwidth on the line being used for the IPTV service.

Doctor Olds
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said by Anonuser See Profile:

Question

"The technology, ADSL2+, will enable download speeds between 4 megabits per second and 6 mbps, and upload speeds from 512 kbps to 768 kbps, BellSouth said.

That would be up from the current maximum download speed of 3 mbps with uploads of 384 kbps available through BellSouth."
Bellsouth can deliver that speed right now as ADSL is rated for "up to 8Mbps Downstream" and I've gotten the below stats from my line when they (they being Bellsouth) forgot to cap it.



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Rob
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL

Download..

I don't want faster download (give me 3000) but GIVE ME 1MB UPLOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
peltecs

join:2004-10-18
Los Angeles, CA

Re: Download..

Right on! We can already get 6Mbs download speeds using ADSL. If they are going to improve thier network, then give up higher upload speeds...1-1.2Mbs would be sweet. Then we can file share better.

xblcom

join:2003-03-30
Miami, FL
At this point, being an IFITL user, I'd take any increase in speed; be it download or upload.
ericinmia
Premium
join:2002-12-25
Hialeah, FL

Re: Download..

I agree...

They won't allow us any higher than the standard 1.5/256 or whatnot. They say the IFITL can't handle the higher speed tier.
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