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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
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join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
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| Like OOL when it was new... I expect them to rachet up the charges nicely after a time. OOL used to be $30/month. I bailed when it went to $45 ($50 for me as a non-video sub). With triple play the price is low enough to get you on it, plus CV now has the added bonus of tying customers to a phone number they may not want to change. VOIP is coming on strong, but I like my POTS just fine for now.
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Dennis
Premium,Mod
join:2001-01-26
Algonquin, IL
1 edit | vs. SBC I'm not sure about the local economy where this is offered. But I get my DSL, Telephone, and Dish TV (with DVR) for just about $95.
Doesn't seem like a great deal...plus my 911 works and I can still make calls in power outages. | |
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ironwalker
World Renowned
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-31
Keansburg, NJ
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| Re: vs. SBC said by Dennis  :I'm not sure about the local economy where this is offered. But I get my DSL, Telephone, and Dish TV (with DVR) for just about $95. Doesn't seem like a great deal...plus my 911 works and I can still make calls in power outages. I have the origional triple play deal.I also have used OV for quite sometime now and it has gotten better.
911 works here as I had to call the police a few times for stuff.Number porting should be around soon if not already in some areas.411 works too.
Is the deal great/good?
For new customers yes....in time it will be expensive.
Im hopeing verizon does fiber correctly in my OOL area and offer phone/inet/and hdtv.
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Utica, MI | Sure, but your DSL provider isn't giving you 10Mbps/1Mbps service now are they? | |
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Bobcat
Cablevision sucks donkey balls
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join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | said by imrf :Sure, but your DSL provider isn't giving you 10Mbps/1Mbps service now are they? But OOL doesn't provide web space or working newsgroups. Best thing I ever did was ditch OOL for Verizon 1.5M/384k DSL. I'm saving money and have more features.
OOL is like a car that can go 200 mph, but doesn't have a trunk and the air-conditioning only works on cold days.
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Bobcat
Cablevision sucks donkey balls
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join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ |  Not quite
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...bundles standard digital video... for $29.95 each...
You can't get the digital video service for $29.95 per month, because you have to pay an extra $5.24 per month for each decoder box. | |
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join:2003-01-26
Beacon, NY | Re: Not quite isnt the first one included on the tripple play offer or something like that? | |
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| Re: Not quite I used to use Verizon DSL with their phone service for $90 a month, with OOL I wind up paying the same price for better internet (and phone) plus cable TV. So for me..the decision was simple, especially with my DSL crapping out and the techs blaming it on me (Check the NYC Verizon threads to see how much trouble people have been having). After a year, FIOC should be available, so the cost should stay low or get even lower, so I'm pretty happy with the setup. | |
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
Premium
join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
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| Re: Not quite said by Holy Phoenix:
I used to use Verizon DSL with their phone service for $90 a month, with OOL I wind up paying the same price for better internet (and phone) plus cable TV. ...
For me it was not really "better internet", just faster internet. As the price went up, usenet access deteriorated to a point where I subscribed to a third party provider, effectively upping my monthly fee by $12. Usenet isn't a big deal for most I guess but it killed OOL for me.
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Chillybott
Understands Marx And Lenin
Premium
join:2002-02-15
MHV, NY, USA
| yes, the first box is free
they actually got me back in a "double play" offer, since I had left CV 3 years ago during the YES disputes (although I stayed with OOL) - they gave me the deal on iO gold and OOL without having to sign up for OV
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join:2001-05-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
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join:2000-03-08
Mount Arlington, NJ
| I have the triple play package with two digital cable boxes. I am charged $8.68 a month for two boxes ($4.07 each plus $0.27 a month for each remote). Maybe I am just getting screwed but as far as I can tell you are charged for each and every box you have. | |
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ExecPro
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Long Beach, NY
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| said by Optimized : said by xirian :isnt the first one included on the tripple play offer or something like that? Hmmm, that would certainly be misleading if they didn't include the first box. Hopefully someone getting the triple play chimes in. They do charge you for the first box - it is NOT included. And they even charge you for the remote. | |
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hailinfantry
Bizarro Quinn
Premium
join:2004-01-18
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: Not quite said by ExecPro : said by Optimized : said by xirian :isnt the first one included on the tripple play offer or something like that? Hmmm, that would certainly be misleading if they didn't include the first box. Hopefully someone getting the triple play chimes in. They do charge you for the first box - it is NOT included. And they even charge you for the remote. They aren't charging me for either separately.
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hailinfantry
Bizarro Quinn
Premium
join:2004-01-18
Brooklyn, NY
| said by Bobcat : quote:
...bundles standard digital video... for $29.95 each...
You can't get the digital video service for $29.95 per month, because you have to pay an extra $5.24 per month for each decoder box. Figured you'd chime-in negatively about this. As a matter of fact, just got it installed and the 29.95 includes the DCT. First month, with taxes, was around 98.00 for phone, digital cable, and OOL (which kicks your Verizon's ass in both customer support and speed.)
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Bobcat
Cablevision sucks donkey balls
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join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Not quite Thanks for clarifying that. Serves me right for believing what's published on Cablevision's web site.
As far as Verizon's ass is concerned, the best customer support is one that you never need. And I haven't had to call Verizon customer support. My DSL connection works 24/7 for months at a time, which is something that my OOL connection never did. Plus, the best thing about Verizon DSL is that I'm giving Cablevision $500 less per year than I used to!
And, of course, my Verizon phone service is $17 per month, which is much cheaper than that crappy VoIP service provided by Cablevision, and my phone works all the time, even during power failures.
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hailinfantry
Bizarro Quinn
Premium
join:2004-01-18
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: Not quite said by Bobcat :Thanks for clarifying that. Serves me right for believing what's published on Cablevision's web site. As far as Verizon's ass is concerned, the best customer support is one that you never need. And I haven't had to call Verizon customer support. My DSL connection works 24/7 for months at a time, which is something that my OOL connection never did. Plus, the best thing about Verizon DSL is that I'm giving Cablevision $500 less per year than I used to! And, of course, my Verizon phone service is $17 per month, which is much cheaper than that crappy VoIP service provided by Cablevision, and my phone works all the time, even during power failures. Yea, cheaper than OV because it has zero features...
I get unlimited long distance and all of the features of verizon's complete package. Ha, you don't even get caller ID for your $17.00/mo. Ah, and if it isn't metered, we both know that it's more than that when you factor in their user fees and taxes.
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Bobcat
Cablevision sucks donkey balls
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Not quite My cell phone has all the features I want, including free long distance, plus a bunch of features that I don't even know how to use. And I can take my cell phone with me; try to do that with OV.
Bottom line is that I see no reason for VoIP when my cell phone is even better. And the $17 (including all taxes and fees) POTS line means I'll have reliable E911 service even during a power failure.
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hailinfantry
Bizarro Quinn
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join:2004-01-18
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | Re: Not quite said by Bobcat :My cell phone has all the features I want, including free long distance, plus a bunch of features that I don't even know how to use. And I can take my cell phone with me; try to do that with OV. Bottom line is that I see no reason for VoIP when my cell phone is even better. And the $17 ( including all taxes and fees) POTS line means I'll have reliable E911 service even during a power failure. So will I. I have a battery backup. Enjoy your celly when the towers are maxed during an emergency...when you'd likely actually require the use of enhanced/emergency 911 service.
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Bobcat
Cablevision sucks donkey balls
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | Re: Not quite said by hailinfantry :So will I. I have a battery backup. Enjoy your celly when the towers are maxed during an emergency...when you'd likely actually require the use of enhanced/emergency 911 service. #1 - It's likely that your OV service will die during a power failure, because Cablevision does not properly maintain their battery-backup equipment.
#2 - I'd use my POTS line for 911 during an emergency, so any cell site problems would not be an issue.
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hailinfantry
Bizarro Quinn
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join:2004-01-18
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | Re: Not quite said by Bobcat : said by hailinfantry :So will I. I have a battery backup. Enjoy your celly when the towers are maxed during an emergency...when you'd likely actually require the use of enhanced/emergency 911 service. #1 - It's likely that your OV service will die during a power failure, because Cablevision does not properly maintain their battery-backup equipment. #2 - I'd use my POTS line for 911 during an emergency, so any cell site problems would not be an issue. So you pay 12+ dollars for e911.
Also, there is a brand new hardened battery backup/power supply at the node just in front of our building. They demonstrated the capability of OV with power failure for the tenants as a selling point if they had a UPS. It works beautifully.
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amenite
The Soylent - It's People
Premium
join:2002-11-21
Ridgewood, NJ
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·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Not quite said by hailinfantry : ... Also, there is a brand new hardened battery backup/power supply at the node just in front of our building. ... I'd be curious as what maintenance that thing needs and if CV gets around to doing it when needed. I wouldn't count on it to run for more than a few hours. Good for the occasional outage (if you have your modem in a UPS) but probably not for an extended outage.
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Plaguetard
join:2004-12-31
Oceanside, CA | not providing in SoCal I'd switch except they don't offer it here. Sux | |
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Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: not providing in SoCal OOL/Cablevision is only offered in CT, NY, NJ | |
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Bobcat
Cablevision sucks donkey balls
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join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ | Re: not providing in SoCal PA, too. | |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA | I had a similar deal with Comcast Except it's more like Triple Pay than Triple Play. | |
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join:2004-02-06
Branchville, NJ | Re: I had a similar deal with Comcast How is it triple pay its actually a really great deal. I would love Cablevision to offer it up here in NJ | |
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join:2002-08-21
Hopewell Junction, NY
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join:2004-02-06
Branchville, NJ | Re: I had a similar deal with Comcast oh ok | |
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lovewomen
join:2003-08-07
Springfield, VA
·Cox HSI
| Power out for Voip I learned a lesson with Voip when a storm hit us and the power was out for almost a week no telephone for all that time. People who had landline telephones from the local telephone company still had telephone service. Cell phone service was out also. Hooked up a generator and that did not help either. Now have landland telephone, ditched Voip. | |
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join:2002-02-06
Edgewood, MD
| Re: Power out for Voip I'll Go for the Digital television and the cable internet but I'm still holding off on VOIP for now. My cell phone works for me and when I'm home I place it in the Cellsocket which juices all my home phones. It's hooked to a battery backup so when the power goes off the phones are still alive.
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captnhook
join:2001-02-20
NY | just the facts.. Cell phones and VoIP died during the blackout.. a landline is essential if you have to have reliable phone communications | |
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otdrebel
join:2005-01-01
Lakeland, FL
| Re: Triple play here in Polk county, FL..we had 3 hurricanes roll over this year. 2 of the 'eyes' came over our house. On several occasions, thousands were without power,phone,cable..
Brighthouse (previously TWC) unlike Verizon isnt under fed. mandate to provide 911 service, even if you are a VoIP customer. (Triple Play is scheduled for rollout soon, averaging 100+ new phone modems/wk. at present)
So, although it SEEMS that a federal mandate per FCC regs. would have your phone/i.e. DSL up and running right away (supposed to be 24 hr. window) we had people here without phone for weeks..some months !!! On the other hand, the cable companies of the world have had to beg, promise and deliver just to gain customers...it is not..(as telephone) considered a 'vital' service...
BHN had almost no outages during those storms, with 98 %return to service with 24 hrs. Remember MaBell works by the hour...There have been whole cable companies that went bankrupt just because too many subs were disatisfied with the service. If pricing is the issue...there is no way anybody is going to prove it is cheaper to garner three comparable services/products from seperate sources than it would be to get the same or similar services from one source. My DSL line from Verizon, back in the dark years, never broke a Mbit d/l:( it was $30 for the dsl ($40 when I tried the bronzer..more like shellac-er) PLUS $35 for the reg. phone line..PLUS any long distance charges I might accidently accrue..PLUS impact fees, taxes, service charges filing fees, paper usage fees, phone van sitting under the tree fees, useless customer support fees..etc. So, the usual total was 75-80 bucks...
And in central Florida, on a good day, with a sturdy 30 foot tower, you can receive maybe 6 channels via tv ant.
And basic/no digital cable is about 20 bucks for about 20 channels...but it looks like crap on my 16:9 sony hdtv..
Lastly, I am bracing myself, as a long time cable guy, for the new revolution...I believewe will see the most unreal competition almost ever over the next few years...In fact, I am getting ready to jump ship and go to work for Verizon
splicing fiber...why you ask...?
Because with a 50mbit d/l and video services available..probably for around 100 bucks (the cable companies will be extending their fiber, too..you can bank on that) since competition will keep the price low...I have to go where the goods are...
So at present, it is primetime for fiber, and whoever brings it sooner. | |
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paulrich
join:2000-01-21
Bronxville, NY
| you will be sorry And after one year you will get a hefty increase so be prepared. How else are they going to pay for all those commercials to stop the west side stadium. Cablevision is a monopoly that sucks. I have been a customer for 20 years and don't preach to me about satellite. | |
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hailinfantry
Bizarro Quinn
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join:2004-01-18
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: you will be sorry said by paulrich : And after one year you will get a hefty increase so be prepared. How else are they going to pay for all those commercials to stop the west side stadium. Cablevision is a monopoly that sucks. I have been a customer for 20 years and don't preach to me about satellite. Of course it goes up, that's why it's a promo. Anyone that enters the temporary deal thinking that it won't increase is just silly. However, It won't increase as much as one might think.
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waiting4fios
@verizon.ne
| apples and oranges Everyone who compares VOIP service to POTS service is comparing apples and oranges. VOIP is mostly pure profit there is very little maintenance or investment to run the network. Also VOIP doesn't need to sustain the cost of service for people who can't afford it like POTS service does. Anyone who compares Optimum Voice to Verizon Freedom is an idiot who knows very little about the economics or technology behind communications. Try comparing Optimum Voice to Verizon's Voicewing that's a more comparable service, which is why the pricing is similar. Some relatives of mine just bought a house in a Tampa suberb and are getting Verizon Fios 15M/2M + Voicewing for $75 per month, and that is not even a promotional price. How much is Optimum Voice + Optimum Online after promo? $85 for 10/1. Hmm? $10 less for faster service, no caps, working newsgroups, & MSN Premium. Can't wait for Verizon to roll out their video service w/ FIOS and see what happens then. The bottom line is that the competition is good for YOU the consumer. Personally, I trust Verizon more because they don't raise rates AS MUCH as Cablevision does every year. Also I get the best cellphone coverage with Verizon that CV doesn't even offer and please don't even mention that they might resell service from another provider because its just like Verizon reselling DirecTV, which I haven't even mentioned is still a better deal than Cablevision's IO service.
That was just my two cents of who will have the better deal when you compare apples with apples instead of apples with oranges. | |
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join:2001-05-31
00001 | Re: apples and oranges The prices are misleading because they are only introductory rates. After a little while they will be raping you like they do the rest of their customers. | |
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join:2005-01-01
Bronx, NY
| Re: apples and oranges said by Crypto_Bug :The prices are misleading because they are only introductory rates. After a little while they will be raping you like they do the rest of their customers. Bingo!
Plus, this offers are only available to new customers.
I have Cablevision's io gold package with 4 cable boxes, HBo on demand and Cinemax on demand, OOL.
My bill comes to $170 or so every month. If i add Optimum Voice it will be over the $200 dollar mark every month. 
Now that Verizon is offering that 3/768 line for $29.95 a month, i will certainly drop OOL. That will be a $15 savings a month for me. | |
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join:2001-12-13
Bronxville, NY
| Stop arguing I know many many many many people on verizon dsl and many many many people on ool.. the general consensus between us is people that surf the web and use kazaa can use dsl and people that are complete speed freaks and spend 24 hours out of the day running torrent box's use ool. Its all math.. ten bucks per Mbit for DSL(29.95/3), 5 bucks per Mbit for OOL(49.95/10). DONT ARGUE WITH ME.. I am not saying either if "better" there are just people that don't NEED the bandwith and people that do.. Oh and VoIP is great except when you need 911 and theres no power.. which is .002% of the time.. but in that .002% you will really need it. Also Satilite just needs On-Demand programing... then it will best digital cable. | |
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