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join:2004-09-02 malaysia | Re: Broadband is being used by very many this is so confusing. a few days we were just reading about how bit torrent is choking broadband and now we are supposedly not using enough bandwidth. is there a conspiracy to confuse the average joe here? | |
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 steven s Premium join:2002-09-14 Dearborn, MI | hmmm Surprised it's so low. | |
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join:2003-08-20 South Lyon, MI clubs: | Re: hmmm im not, some people who want to have high speed internet cant get it. | |
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| Re: hmmm said by Deathsadvoca :im not, some people who want to have high speed internet cant get it. Or they don't want it because dial-up is cheaper (e.g., I pay $58.95 for cable modem service). | |
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join:2004-11-02 Joyce, WA | Re: hmmm In the west there is QWEST and where there is QWEST there is little broadband. I would love to get broadband and would pay 58.50 to get it but it won't happen will the telco's strangle the little guy. | |
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| said by antdude : said by Deathsadvoca :im not, some people who want to have high speed internet cant get it. Or they don't want it because dial-up is cheaper (e.g., I pay $58.95 for cable modem service). SBC DSL is 19.99$. That's cheaper than AOL MSN and Earthlink, the top 3 Dialup providers. | |
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| Re: hmmm said by steven s : said by antdude : said by Deathsadvoca :im not, some people who want to have high speed internet cant get it. Or they don't want it because dial-up is cheaper (e.g., I pay $58.95 for cable modem service). SBC DSL is 19.99$. That's cheaper than AOL MSN and Earthlink, the top 3 Dialup providers. Yeah, but I am in Verizon's territory AND I am too far from CO (19.5K+ ft!!). -- Ant @ The Ant Farm: »antfarm.ma.cx ... Please do not IM/e-mail me for technical support. Use the forum (I check almost daily)! Disclaimer: The views expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer. | |
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join:2003-03-10 Montebello, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| Some similarity to television Not much content out there that is fresh and new enough to use all this bandwidth. Sort of like TV the same is happening with the web being filled with too many AD's. The reason more and more people move away from the idiot box to the new emerging idiot box (PC). | |
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  Nerdtalker Working Hard, Or Hardly Working? Premium,MVM join:2003-02-18 Tucson, AZ clubs: | Good to hear! Its good that Broadband is catching on now, especially being the majority now.
The only bad thing is that with this promiscuity, comes the added percentage of people who don't use a firewall, AV, or run windows update. | |
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 |  Rammer Premium join:2001-03-06 clubs:  | Re: Good to hear! i do not think that 53 percent of the us is on broadband thats total crap | |
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| Re: Good to hear! said by Rammer :i do not think that 53 percent of the us is on broadband thats total crap wasn't it just like 3x% a year ago? -- We Have a great holiday today. How things are with you over there it is less easy to say. | |
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| Re: Good to hear! lol yes
you cant get a true user count by asking a 1000 people what they have dial up --or high speed
you can see on forums all over the net that even in and around the city limits of large citys ther are still many that have no options
heck in louisiana there are many many places with out a pots telephone lines
they use cell phones and what ever -- too keep in touch with the outside world | |
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join:2002-09-23 Marion, IL
| Re: Good to hear! i guess the poll depends on who you ask....as many companies CLAIM to have highspeed internet which is dial up that caches pages.....thus it is still dial up LOL
availabilty is a problem also.....many cannot get it....others do not need HIGH bandwidth broadband but a lower tier would do.....how ever providers like mine which is mediacom has a lowwer tier which is better than dialup but not super fast....i think it is 128/64 which is still better than dial up....however they will not sell it except they will offer it to customers who decide they do not need 3000/256 .....so untill greedy companies like this offer lower tiers...it will not help any either -- www.geek4rent.us | |
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| said by ObdH : said by Rammer :i do not think that 53 percent of the us is on broadband thats total crap wasn't it just like 3x% a year ago? I'm fairly sure I read a front page article not too long ago saying the number was closer to 10%, at least in the US. -- Team [ASA] | |
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| Re: Good to hear! said by SequimPC :10% sounds reasonable. I would believe as much as 15-20%. Not really ... The article means 53% of internet users are on a highspeed connection, it is not talking about percent of US or percent of population..
I think you guys misread... 53% sounds reasonable as an estimate and only an estimate.. 10% sounds way way to low. -- :: My current desktop :: this is so out of date but im to lazy to change it, yet im takin the time to write all this. lol | |
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| Re: Good to hear! said by Vamp : said by SequimPC :10% sounds reasonable. I would believe as much as 15-20%. Not really ... The article means 53% of internet users are on a highspeed connection, it is not talking about percent of US or percent of population.. I think you guys misread... 53% sounds reasonable as an estimate and only an estimate.. 10% sounds way way to low. This study is focused on the US, correct?
If the other article said 10% of Americans had broadband, and this one says 50% of internet users are on broadband, that would mean only 20% of Americans are wired, and that cant be right...I'll look later to see if I can find that 10% statistic. -- Team [ASA] | |
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| It kind of blows the argument that the municipal (read: socialist) BB proponents use when they claim broadband is so hard to find.
Truth is, most people can get BB if they want it.
The figure would likely be much, much higher if there were a way to count all the people who use their employer's T1's and zippy networks for personal use.
mocycler -- I'm a Libertarian who is glad George Bush won. »www.lp.org | |
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join:2004-09-05 Port Angeles, WA | What an oblivious azzhole. Yup I can get BB it is over $1400 per month.
How bout you go take a big bottle of sleeping pills followed by half a bottle of cheap booze and take a long permanent nap. | |
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join:2003-12-04 Banks, OR
| said by mocycler :Truth is, most people can get BB if they want it. Hey, there are still tens of millions of people, at least, that can't get broadband. And the way things are going, if they live in the U.S.A., they won't get it for a long, long time. | |
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join:2004-10-15 Belton, TX
| Re: Good to hear! Getting broadband isnt necessarily as difficult or as unavailable as people would like to believe Now, before you guys turn on the incinerators give me a change to back this statement with data. You have to look at how broadband is defined... Anything over 128kb a sec is "technically" considered to be broadband. The problem is that ISDN line (128kb) and fractional or full T1's or other dedicated broadband solutions, which tend to be more widely available, are NOT cost effective for residential use and therefore often not considered. Considering that a typical ISDN might run around $39.00 for 64kb channel from the phone company and $39.00 for the other channel to get to the full 128kb, then you have to pay for an ISP that supports it usually $39.00 per channel again so the final cost could run the end user up to $150.00 per month or more depending on your area and this cost does not include equipment which is very expensive as well. A fractional T1 is often widely available as well but again the cost is so expensive often 200-300 per month or a full T1 which after local loop charges often runs $450-$600. SO when you say that most people can get broadband, they just fail to look, then you are mostly correct. As much as I hate to admit it (I cant get Cable or DSL services either). But the fact is that the broadband is mostly available to many people but simply not worth the cost for the service, again often it is outrageously priced and not a viable solution. And though DSL and Cable services are synonymous with broadband services and often the only services considered people should realize there are other alternatives available. | |
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| Re: Good to hear! While I understand your argument Miah, I am actually someone who doesn't have broadband available to them. Wait I guess I can't say that, but satellite isn't viable for how much internet usage my family uses. We would get Fap'ed to hell and back. Verizon in NY no longer offers ISDN to residential homes and they won't run a T1 to my home either. We have no wireless and no cable service for TV, only Satellite TV. My only hope will be FIOS, but I doubt I will see that as well. I call every month like clock work to ask if DSL is available and I know the answer every month. Nope! I ask about FIOS and I am told that Verizon wants everyone to have FIOS, but I need to be patient. The funny thing is everyone I talk to up here says Verizon has said the same thing about DSL as well.
Ignore teh Neptune City, NJ as my location. I have since moved and now live in rural NYS. | |
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| broadband I use direcway satellite service.
If you have a clear line of site to the south, you can use this service.
I am unaware of any sat limitations by geographical area.
Cost is $99.00 per month for about 1 year (equipment and install included, then after 1 year drops to $58.00 per month.
Or you pay about $545.00 up front and then $58.00 per month.
They have the new 6000 modem now works good, software updates done autmatic now.
RJ45 connection, you can also share with other pc's in same location. | |
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