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Making use of game unit's Wi-Fi
(old news - 07:18PM Friday Dec 10 2004)
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Wired News takes a look at how the Wi-Fi functionality in the new Nintendo DS handheld gaming console is being used. Aside from games that support the connectivity, DS users are also having a great time hacking into the units, to tunnel DS games over the internet. Boing Boing also points to other creative uses for the wireless connectivity, such as the Daigasso! Band Brothers game.

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Great!

I'm looking forward to these things when I get my DS.
jporter07

join:2004-03-22
Mobile, AL

Re: Great!

I still want the PSP!
juggernaut83

join:2004-10-25
Princeton, NC

sounds cool.

but i too want to pp.

disorder
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Can't wait!

I have gotten the DS the first day it came out and I just can't wait for this. From dual screens to touching now it's going to online capabilities. Let's just hope Nintendo "officialy" releases their own online service on the DS and not let it fail like it did on the Gamecube. Looking forward to this soon.

By the way... the DS rocks!
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jporter07

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Mobile, AL

Re: Can't wait!

What would you say the best features are to someone who doesn't see it's appeal? I like GTA, Halo, Half-Life, Max Payne, etc. It just looks too cumbersome for an adult to play.

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Re: Can't wait!

I love every single game you have mentioned and own. It's just it's a first to see something like this to come out. I really don't see how it's too bulky, I think it's perfect for it's size especially when it's fliped down and what it's capable of doing. I mean try making a portable with dual screens, touch pad, built microphone, backwards compatibility, extra controls, for only $150 and see how small you can make it. It's just like having the N64 in your hands, but even better and inovative as it is.

I also like the way Nintendo is heading for adult gaming now, hence the name "Nintendo DS" and not Game Boy.
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3-D

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Re: Can't wait!

"It's just like having the N64 in your hands..."

Many of us don't see this as a good thing.

paulhaskew
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w00t

gotta love the DS, so versatile...
twig49

join:2004-10-28
Plainview, TX

hehehe...

It will soon be emulated. Oh yes, it will be done.

AuraReturn
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Re: hehehe...

said by twig49 See Profile:

It will soon be emulated. Oh yes, it will be done.
Sure, DS game roms will show up on the internet in no time. But you know what? You don't get the touch screen, multiplayer, voice command, and the whole handheld experience.

Speedy8
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join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
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Re: hehehe...

It does for the people that buy flash carts for their machines. Personally I don't care for handhelds much.

Vchat20
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join:2003-09-16
Warren, OH

day late and a dollar short

this is news? people have been hacking away at the DS since the first week it was out back in November.

and they are not "hacking" so to speak. majority of the work right now is finding a way to use the proprietary wireless through standard wifi, but so far its coming to a point where you will need dead on specific hardware for it to work.

the_buz

join:2004-02-15
Yorba Linda, CA

After a poor launch...

they're just looking for something to do with it. I mean, 5 games come launch day? They should've held off on the release until they had mediocre following.

And what's even more sad? When the PSP launches in March (I think it's March), it will have more games then the DS up until that point in time. A true shame if you ask me.

And yes, I also have a DS. Plan on buying a PSP when it launches too.

Vchat20
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Warren, OH

Re: After a poor launch...

i dont see it as a porr launch. why in the hell do you think that just abut every damned place in the states that carries the DS is sold out? many people are being forced to wait till january before they can get one. i dont think it was anywhere near a poor launch.

also, imo, the DS and the PSP are not on a level playing field. the DS was made to be a pure gaming system. nothing else. the PSP was made to be an all purpose entertainment portable.

stet
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Did you know that the GameBoy originally launched with only 4 games, and it took over 6 months for more to come out? And guess what, the GameBoy platform went on to be the most popular platform for video games, ever.
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Re: After a poor launch...

said by stet See Profile:

Did you know that the GameBoy originally launched with only 4 games, and it took over 6 months for more to come out? And guess what, the GameBoy platform went on to be the most popular platform for video games, ever.
Yes, but when the original GameBoy launched it was the only portable game system around. So even if they totally screwed up the original gameboy launch (which nintendo has done with every system after the NES IMHO) they still succeeded.

The new game boy has three major things going against it:
1. No software: kinda hard to convince someone to buy a new system so few games, sony certainly has the licensee advantage here.
2. Demographics: Most gameboy owners probably prefer their playstion over their gamecube, so if given the choice most will probably go with sony.
3. Competition: Not only does this unit have to compete with sony, but nokia (well kind of), and even the old SP units still being sold.

Given those three factors, nintendo can ill afford to botch a launch lest they lose their last niche portable sector of the market to sony.
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Re: After a poor launch...

This happened to the GBA too. I hardly found the launch titles appealing at the time, yet I bought one after a year when the good titles started coming out. Now it outsells the PS2. DS has the potential for some great games down the road. It was just a quick release.

1. We'll wait and see what PSP has to offer on release.
2. That is a baseless assumption. I am the owner of both and like them both equally, and I doubt that statement would be true for the majority. They both have unique strengths. Gamecube owners don't tend to be displeased that they made the purchase.
3. Agree except Nokia should not even be mentioned

rbright
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I'd have to say that the GBA SP and even the original GBA will give the most competition to the DS - at least until the PSP arrives. I don't think Nokia even deserves mention when it comes to competition.

Another factor working against the DS is the fact that it costs $150. I'd just as soon tame my gaming habits to stay within my home and save some money. This factor is also going to work against the PSP as it's priced even higher.

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The new game boy has three major things going against it:
1. No software: kinda hard to convince someone to buy a new system so few games, sony certainly has the licensee advantage here.
2. Demographics: Most gameboy owners probably prefer their playstion over their gamecube, so if given the choice most will probably go with sony.
3. Competition: Not only does this unit have to compete with sony, but nokia (well kind of), and even the old SP units still being sold.
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you forgot #4. all of sonys gaming machines keep breaking down so you will have to buy 2 psp's just like the others !!!!
mike10

join:2004-03-02
Chilliwack, BC

said by TZi See Profile:

said by stet See Profile:

Did you know that the GameBoy originally launched with only 4 games, and it took over 6 months for more to come out? And guess what, the GameBoy platform went on to be the most popular platform for video games, ever.
Yes, but when the original GameBoy launched it was the only portable game system around. So even if they totally screwed up the original gameboy launch (which nintendo has done with every system after the NES IMHO) they still succeeded.

The new game boy has three major things going against it:
1. No software: kinda hard to convince someone to buy a new system so few games, sony certainly has the licensee advantage here.
2. Demographics: Most gameboy owners probably prefer their playstion over their gamecube, so if given the choice most will probably go with sony.
3. Competition: Not only does this unit have to compete with sony, but nokia (well kind of), and even the old SP units still being sold.

Given those three factors, nintendo can ill afford to botch a launch lest they lose their last niche portable sector of the market to sony.
you shouldtn call it the new gameboy since nintendo has stated many times they are still developing another upgraded gameboy that will completely seperate from the DS

lucky644
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said by the_buz See Profile:

they're just looking for something to do with it. I mean, 5 games come launch day? They should've held off on the release until they had mediocre following.

And what's even more sad? When the PSP launches in March (I think it's March), it will have more games then the DS up until that point in time. A true shame if you ask me.
Quality over quantity.

the_buz

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Re: After a poor launch...

I'd rather have a slew of poor games then just the one game worth buying (SM64 DS). That may just be me though...

And I was referring to the games available at launch that made it the poor launch that it was. I knew it was going to sell out, hence my waiting in line at 7 am. Maybe back in the original Gameboy days, 4 games was acceptable. Nowadays it isn't.
Kearnstd
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the DS will play all existing GB, GB Color, and GBA games. so its launch library is in theory over 1000 games.
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stet
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Re: After a poor launch...

said by Kearnstd See Profile:

the DS will play all existing GB, GB Color, and GBA games. so its launch library is in theory over 1000 games.
It doesn't play GB/GBC games, only GBA games.
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Seems they sold 1.2M in 2 weeks and are having a hard time keeping up with demand. get your facts straight.

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the_buz

join:2004-02-15
Yorba Linda, CA

Re: I wouldn't call it a poor launch...

Once again, I never said the system would sell poorly. Maybe you should get your facts straight.
Chosen1

join:2001-08-05
Orange Park, FL

Xbox Lite

I'd prefer a portable Xbox, although I'm sure it would be the size of a backpack.

-Chosen1

bigdaddy17

join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL

Re: Xbox Lite

Are you serious? The actual xbox fits inside my backpack with nothing in it. Of course the xbox does have a few pounds to it.
Chosen1

join:2001-08-05
Orange Park, FL
I was joking, making fun of the fact that, although I like the Xbox more than the other alternatives, it is quite large in comparison. Now if you compare it to a pc, it's fairly small.

Nevermind....the mood has left me.

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nl4jy

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Brooklyn, NY

Re: Xbox Lite

said by Chosen1 See Profile:

Now if you compare it to a pc, it's fairly small.

You do know Laptops are also PCs right? There are Laptops that is smaller than xbox that plays all the latest games.
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Re: Xbox Lite

i think psp will suck, it already failed in japan. handheld nintendos will always sell. kids love pokemon type shit.

lollypopcaptain

@cable.rogers

Re: Xbox Lite

it failed already? wow i am SO glad i bought a ds on ebay (its sold out all over canada sad) but i also heard that most of the games are japanese parlor games like mahjong and shogi or shog or whatever i hope i at least spelled them right.anyways psp feels more like a console and the only thing thats interesting is the mp3 player addition.though i already own one so theres no need.plus theyre umd discs.DISCS MAN! how am i supposed to keep that around with me?plus il end up breaking them anyway.....anyway,cartridges all the way .plus that touch screen is perfect for retards like me and i hope all games will use that

Afrikaaner

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Yeah, but the power required for laptops is quite freakin' huge. If they made an X-Box "lite" (or whatever you want to call it) it would end up costing a crapload more than the DS or even PSP. The xbox is just too advanced right now to be made into a little thing the size of personal cereal boxes. Aside from that, where would all the buttons go!?

Xfan

@attbi.com
The xbox was completely made as a console. ITs hole sucess lies around its grafics. You cant emulate that on a handheld

Xfan

@attbi.com
The xbox was completely made as a console. ITs hole sucess lies around its grafics. You cant emulate that on a handheld

Mariomox

@teledisnet.be

Just talk about the DS.

Really, I Think that the PSP's not a good affair.

It's a machine that offer to you to see films; yeah that's good.
Do you really want to pay a film of UMD type for seeing a film ONLY ?

For the mp3, it's good but the price is too expensive. The size of the original card is only 32 mo ( 9 mp3).

For the games, i listened there are black pixels in each game. The time of play is 3h50 +- with 80% of the volume, all the original options.

Let's go to buy the Ds! It's full of capabilities, strong, nice and has beautiful games. Double screen with touch-screen,
a pen and a lot of possibilities for playing!

And it's a Nintendo trademark! The leader in portable consoles. Sony made one thing, Sony made once. =)

SpriteIsRight

@sympatico.ca

Nintendo is releasing an adapter for its DS handheld console so it can play music and video. »news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4101079.stm
If they release is in north America then no question i will buy ds.

BigDSDaddy

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Re: Ds can do more then PsP

Just buy a Play-Yan from play-asia.com. No reason it won't work in North America.
exmachina08

join:2005-02-05
College Station, TX

said by SpriteIsRight:

Nintendo is releasing an adapter for its DS handheld console so it can play music and video. »news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4101079.stm
If they release is in north America then no question i will buy ds.
That link you sent said that "Nintendo said it had no plans to sell the media adapter outside Japan."
So Depressed....
rockcandie

join:2004-12-31
Nazareth, PA
Well with the play-yan as previously stated i think the competition will be a blow out of course ds will win because of its history an experience. Nintendo knows how to make handhelds and market them ... sony knows how to make walkmans

Paco Deth

@insightBB.com

I just got a DS for Xmas, and its truly sweet, the graphics arent as good as Metroid Prime thru Component ont he 53" HDTV, but I wasnt expecting them to be :P. They truly are rich and vibrant and fast moving, built in wifi will give tons of options, all it needs are some basic PDA function software, MP3 player, video player, and expansion cards (can something like SecureDigital, already fit in a slot?). Then comes Emulation to play old NES and SNES games on them. Touch Screen and Dual Screen are a big plus and big chances for expansion and new developments in the future.

honestly, I like the looks of the PSP, I "may" end up getting one, provided they arent too expensive, for the graphics and nice game selection, but no doubt teh DS will be my favorite 10fold.

As for video, cant u use that GBA movie maker/player and plop it in this thing?

And isnt there a GBC/Original Gameboy adapter for the GBA, so you could play old Gameboy and Gameboy Color on your GameBoy Advance? Effectively, letting you adapt it again to play on your DS? lol.

Oh heck, how about MAME on the DS!?

lucky644
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Looks like the thread got deleted...any ideas why?

ds rules

@cox.net

how about durability. i would bet that if you dropped the PSP it would most certainly break. the screen is huge and unprotected, the bezel around it is a 1/4 inch and it plays discs, which equals demise when dropped. the ds is built to be durable as well as portable, and when closed the screens are protected from scratching and breaking, carts are much less likely to break when dropped, not to mention it feels soild as a rock. why didnt sony think of that, i mean it is portable, which means it going to be dropped eventualy.

Rofls

@qwest.net

How the hell can you say that the Nintendo GBA and GBA SP will be competition for the Nintendo DS?! Are you fucking stupid? Nintendo owns all three of them and they don't care if a buyer's money goes toward a GBA or GBA SP or even a damned Gameboy as long as their money goes to Nintendo and no one else such as Sony. If anything the GBA and SP will just broaden and encourage Nintendo sales due to the perhaps low price and so on.

ASNKA

@comcast.net
there has been alot of talk from M$ about one
the net has dubed it "XBOY"

it should be out sometime around '06-'07

its a huge martket i dont blame them one bit...
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