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An upgrade from 8Mbps symmetrical

One user sends us this link to ITPronto, which reports that UPC Nederland has started testing 30 Mbps cable internet speeds, and hopes to test 50 Mbps speeds in Amsterdam next year. 300 UPC subscribers in the Verzetswijk district of Almere are already testing a 8Mbps symmetrical cable broadband service. Another user writes in to inform us that Swedes living in Lund can upgrade their fiber service from 10mbit to gigabit ethernet, though sadly we can't read the website.

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furlonium
join:2002-05-08
Allentown, PA

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SYMMETRICAL

...at least they're getting it right. What good is 8, 10, 30Mbps without a decent upload to back it up?

Take a hint, Cable Companies.
smcallah
join:2004-08-05
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Re: SYMMETRICAL

said by furlonium:

...at least they're getting it right. What good is 8, 10, 30Mbps without a decent upload to back it up?

Take a hint, Cable Companies.
Take WHAT hint? It's the technology that is currently in use in most cable systems that is NOT symmetrical, it's not the whims of Cable ISP's to hold down your upload speed. With current technology in use in most of the U.S., they can give about 1mbit/sec to 1.5mbit/sec upload, unreliably. They're giving the speeds that will WORK, so that they can support them, rather than having people call and complain that they're not getting 1mbit uploads when they should.

Cable companies would like to have symmetrical uploads, if they can send more traffic out, they might be able to qualify for peering sessions with large backbone ISP's, which can sometimes be worked out to be near "free" depending on the amount traffic.

staticx57
join:2002-01-24
Toms River, NJ

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Re: SYMMETRICAL

well, they can do it, there must be something wrong with OUR system.

2005fasterpleez
@optonline.net

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Yeah, I hope OOL moves beyond throttled 5-10mbit/1mbit service to around 50 soon, (say 2005!)
Because we're Probably less than 60 calendar days away from Verizon's fiber rollout.. currently either way, it's a win-win situation... if cablemodem subscribers jump ship to VZ, the cable hubs won't have as many users, leaving (theoretically) more b/w for those who stay, which will force them to improve service to attract them back which means 30-50mbits by Dec, 2005 if things go well....maybe throw in voip for $45-50 per month hehehe...

Hope So!

Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
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Cable still the king!

Fiber beat it but it's still too expensive for general release.
batmanst
join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA

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Re: Cable still the king!

YEA RIGHT

Great...419s at 50 Mbps...

Most of the Nigerian 419ers have moved to the Netherlands. Guess they need all the bandwidth to send out all their crud.
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» | 2004-12-01 10:42:19 | ·

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Cuchulainn
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Great...419s at 50 Mbps...

Most of the Nigerian 419ers have moved to the Netherlands. Guess they need all the bandwidth to send out all their crud.:D

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NetDroid2
join:2004-08-16
Excelsior, MN

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Awsome I can't wait!!!

Wow, I wonder how long it will take for all that speed to become normal here?? I can barely get 3Mbps on my cable and DSL around here only goes to 1.5 Mbps.

If we do get it here in the States, you can almost guess its going to be an "UP TO" 50 Mbps thing. I don't even want to know how the cable companies will interpret that definition.
chigowolfs
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join:2003-04-18
Chicago, IL

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Here is the info

Labs2 offers 1 Gigabit per second to private persons for 600 SEK additional per month via the subsidiary Bredband2 Ltd. Grove becomes the first town with säljstart 041201.
The offer means that Labs2 via the broad band operator Bredband2 as first operator in the world offers 1 Gigabit broad tied to the private market.

Edit. 600 sek is about 89.07 in us dollars

” of course is we fond over can to present this 10 km post, Sweden where first with both 10/100 Mbps and now breaks we through Gigabitgränsen before our Asian colleagues. However, one will have clear for itself that the distance has decreased considerablily and during the spring comes Yahoo maternity ward to launch a corresponding service in Japanese. The concerns for different decision-makers in Sweden that continues to interact and to invest on a long-term infrastructure. The is a combination of fiber and ethernet that gives us the possibility to give our customers this powerful offer.

The price will become a påslag on 600 SEK per month for the stating row ring to 1 Gbps. That net that is first out is HSB Skåne. The means that the price for an end member becomes 850 SEK in Skåne for 1 Gbps, to this comes a start charge on 1495 and a tie time on 6 months ” says Jonas Birgersson, CEO on Labs2.

” Personligen thinks I that this development is logical in view of that fast technical development that runs down the pinches on the equipment. In an operational konkurrens- situation so does this that the end members sheep a good and cheap broad tied. For us on Labs2 is the natural to offer high band good curse in line with that we stating erase our infrastructure in order to can to carry televisionaerial and other capacity requiring services.”, says Jonas Birgersson.

For more information, dials Jonas Birgersson on 070 515 27 62.

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t10
join:2003-05-25
Woodbridge, ON

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Re: Here is the info

said by chigowolfs:

Labs2 offers 1 Gigabit per second to private persons for 600 SEK additional per month via the subsidiary Bredband2 Ltd.
Edit. 600 sek is about 89.07 in us dollars
Hmm, anyone know what the base price is?

Now I pay $122.94 for a 9mbit/1.6mbit. Gigabit pipe would sure as hell be nice.

*to the tard which says you dont need a gigabit pipe, F off. I dont need anything becides bread and water too, but we all like a cheesecake once in a while.
batmanst
join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA

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Re: Awsome I can't wait!!!

said by own3d:
Wow, I wonder how long it will take for all that speed to become normal here?? I can barely get 3Mbps on my cable and DSL around here only goes to 1.5 Mbps.

If we do get it here in the States, you can almost guess its going to be an "UP TO" 50 Mbps thing. I don't even want to know how the cable companies will interpret that definition.
stop complaining! or go back to dialup and crawl back into the 90's lmao. you are too spoiled

CPM
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join:2001-08-24
Denver, CO

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50 megs

never come to the USA.
pcrage69
join:2004-01-15
East Berlin, PA

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Re: 50 megs

That's because American broadband companies are too freakin greedy! Verizon is leading the effort, but it will be 20 years before everyone gets FTTH, and by then, I am sure something better will be out....
the niTz
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join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ

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Re: 50 megs

i say we start boycotting lol, and sending letters demanding those speeds to the companies by the masses that will catch there eye

glmclell
join:2000-10-17
Manistee, MI

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said by CPM:

never come to the USA.
um ... T3 or OC1?

or did you mean to say is, it'll never come to USA for $19.95 a month?

CPM
Broadband, DSL, cable
join:2001-08-24
Denver, CO

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Re: 50 megs

Never will be active for your home.
jwvo
join:2001-07-27
Seattle, WA

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Re: 50 megs

I have a DS3 to my home... I guess one should not say never.

john

(see if you can figure out what user i am in the speed test archive, within zipcode 99362).

CPM
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join:2001-08-24
Denver, CO

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Re: 50 megs

Well that is about 10 grand per month isn't?
jwvo
join:2001-07-27
Seattle, WA

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Re: 50 megs

I actually get it for free... I happen to work at the ISP which is providing it to my building (they also use their own infrastructure to provision the DS3s, so the cost is quite low).

Our "slow" on-net buildings have 10 mbit/sec links and the fast on-net buildings are all licenced microwave DS3s or 100 mbit/sec fiber. We found that most customers don't use much more bandwidth if the pipe is large so we have several hundred customers at 8 mbit (symmetrical) or greater. Most are small businesses, but we have some residential users too (in buildings where we already have equipment).

John

CPM
Broadband, DSL, cable
join:2001-08-24
Denver, CO

CPM

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Re: 50 megs

Well, It is good to be the king.

GeneStarwind
join:2001-12-13
Fairfax, VA

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Clockwork

They get speed increases, we get our annual monthly rate increases.
sunny8294
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Re: Clockwork

Right on dude!

koolman2
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batmanst
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Re: Upon reflection, I do not wish to post.

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batmanst

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lol

koolman2
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sunny8294
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Any invisible cap ;) ?

With those providers, I wonder if I have to have the fear of getting capped if I really use the bandwidth instead of just saying around yay I have very good upload speed from my cable service. I think, its not fair for OOL or any other ISPs to cap their customers for uploading (talking from own experience) as they are paying for unlimited internet service as advertised, otherwise it will be some sort of "LIMITED unlimited internet service" (I know, doesn't really makes much of sense). It would make much more sense if they had different tiers or services.

lyls
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Re: Any invisible cap ;) ?

well i know that swedish 10mbit fiber isnt capped.... bredbandsbolagets 100mbit fiber has a cap of like 300gb a month but i have not heard of a cap on the 1gbit line from labs2

b_zen
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Ah, Caps

Unlimited Caps remind me of the All-You-Can-Eat buffets. It takes on average 7 full plates to get your money's worth of food at most restaurants.

Every one complains about the caps, but even if you were to give say, 3 plates (translate that to gigs), it would be enough for the avg. Joe/Jane. But, then it's marketing issue, people would still want to go to an All You Can Eat even if they were to eat 2 plates, and refuse to go to a 3 Plate Max buffet for the same price.

Did I make sense? nope, oh well, not gonna write it again

XBL2009
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL

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American Broadband

is started to suck and we invented the internet. Damn telco's and cableco's need to get a fire lite under their asses.
br0adbanddoc
join:2001-12-31
Wilkes Barre, PA

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Re: American Broadband

It always seems that we fall behind a little and then leap ahead. Let's see what happens once DOCSIS v3.0 is released.
nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

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Why?

Why would the cablecos offer these kinds of speeds?

I don't think fiber to a couple of thousand or even a couple hundred thousand households can be considered competitive "pressure".

The U.S. will be lucky if 10Meg is widely available in 10 years.

13th and slowly sinking.

Anti_Cyrix
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join:2003-03-06
Sacramento, CA

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Re: Why?

said by nasadude:

The U.S. will be lucky if 10Meg is widely available in 10 years.
Yes, 10Meg SYMMETRICAL would be nice. At least in densely populated areas. With Verison's FIOS and SureWest's 10mbit FTTH these days 10 years seems reasonable.

b_zen
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said by nasadude:

13th and slowly sinking.
I remember what was said at last year's FTTH conference in New Orleans...
"The US is now (2003) occupying the 4th place in the world for broadband, it will slide to 6th to 9th by 2004."

Looks like it's a hell of a land-slide