 navalpatel
join:2003-07-28
Lubbock, TX | Alternatives Thank god there are better alternatives then there were two years ago that contain no spyware/adware crap.
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Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs:
| Re: Alternatives Why isn't it an alternative? Of course it doesn't do everything Kazaa can do, but it isn't trying to. The fact is bit torrent replaces a lot of what Kazaa can do, and it does it better. Personally I have never liked or really used Kazaa, there have always been far better alternatives for the non newbs out there. Personally I use a combination of usenet(not p2p obviously), bit torrent, emule, and dc++. Each has their strengths and weaknesses, there is no perfect p2p app. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | adware/spyware . . .
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Kazaa Is Spyware. Gator / Claria Is Spyware. Say it loudly. Say it proudly. Screw the evil scumware companies and EVERY one of their advertisers.
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ObdH
Premium
join:2003-06-11
|  Re: Kazaa Is Spyware. Gator / Claria Is Spyware.
said by B  :Say it loudly. Say it proudly. Screw the evil scumware companies and EVERY one of their advertisers. -- B I'll subscribe to that!
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | Kazaa by itself isn't spyware, so technically they are
correct, even if it is only a half-truth. But it sure
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Re: Kazaa Is Spyware. Gator / Claria Is Spyware. ... which makes it spyware... 
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join:2002-09-24
Charlotte, NC
| I think their main grip is calling it Spyware instead of Ad-ware. This is important because of how our current laws are written.
In my opinion, if the software tries to hide what it is installing (even if it's in the User's agreement), it should be considered spyware. However, if there is a a clear prompt, ala "Do you want to install Gator?" and gives a brief, clear description of what it does, then I wouldn't consider it spyware. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Re: Kazaa Is Spyware. Gator / Claria Is Spyware. said by Cyron :However, if there is a a clear prompt, ala "Do you want to install Gator?" and gives a brief, clear description of what it does, then I wouldn't consider it spyware. Nope -- many ActiveX drive-bys do exactly that. It doesn't make it okay, nor does it make the purveyors less evil.
But it does raise a conflicting feeling for me. Perhaps users should be left to a strict Darwinian buyer-beware state, and held responsible for installing the crap they install. Nah... because it's we who have to deal with it.
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Corvus
Flaming Tards Since 2003
Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26
| said by Doctor Four :Kazaa by itself isn't spyware, so technically they are correct, even if it is only a half-truth. But it sure as hell is bundled with spyware. True, and Kazaa won't run whitout these bundled spywares wich make it an adware.
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA | Uh oh. Now you're in line to be sued by Claria for calling Gator spyware. Excuse me while I get in line behind you.
GATOR IS SPYWARE!!!
There we go. Who's next?  | |
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| attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
| said by B :Say it loudly. Say it proudly. Screw the evil scumware companies and EVERY one of their advertisers. -- B true but my cousin uses it all the time, btw he is the coolest! *sarcasm* | |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs:
| said by B :Say it loudly. Say it proudly. Screw the evil scumware companies and EVERY one of their advertisers. -- B AMEN to that! I'll add it to my signature. 
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pleekmo
Triptoe Through The Tulips
Premium
join:2001-09-14
Manchester, CT
clubs:
| Marketers and Developers: Beware! Once you bundle your application with spyware you'll likely carry the stain of it for the rest of eternity; even long after you unbundle the spyware.
Bundle spyware at your own risk!
The moral of this story is to carefully check what you plan to bundle your software with or even better, don't bundle at all.
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jeffyjeff777
join:2002-06-01
Collegedale, TN | No doubt If anyone doubts, just run ad-aware, then install Kazaa, then run ad-aware again. | |
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| jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
| Re: No doubt said by jeffyjeff777:
If anyone doubts, just run ad-aware, then install Kazaa, then run ad-aware again.
I don't know if they have changed this but I remember back in the early days of Kazaa (before I dropped it like a rock when the interface got filled with graphics and bloated out the memory to all hell; not to mention the spyware) it would not run if you ran Ad-Aware and deleted certain spyware that was bundled with it.
They may have changed it but that is what happened long ago. | |
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SSX4life
Premium
join:2004-02-13
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| AIM comes bundled with spyware why not bash AOL! Kazaa comes w/spyware but so does AIM! Why not just bash the living daylights over the "wild tangent" and "set AIM as my home page" and "google toolbar" bullsh!t that comes with that bloated peice of software as well?
Agreed spyware is horrid, but lets focus on more than just 1 application ok? Just my 2cents.
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join:2002-06-01
Collegedale, TN | Re: AIM comes bundled with spyware why not bash AO I could be wrong, but doesn't AIM give you the option to not install the toolbar? Last time i chacked, if you want to use Kazaa, you MUST install everything that comes with it. | |
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SSX4life
Premium
join:2004-02-13
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: AIM comes bundled with spyware why not bash AO agreed that you can uncheck most of the options, and that kazaa forces you to install them. However if you think about it, wouldn't the average "joe" with the "more is better" ideals simply install everything at the default? And last I checked the default installed EVERYTHING... 
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a1808991020
join:2004-11-15
| don't care what it's called, they want it gone I find it amusing, how these company's get it an uproar about being called spyware and insist they are adware. as if being called adware is a good thing. I think most people consider spyware and adware the same thing. both are unwanted, so if they wish to be called adware instead of spyware let them
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parchamb
join:2002-03-01
Biddeford, ME
| Re: don't care what it's called, they want it gon said by a1808991020 :I think most people consider spyware and adware the same thing. both are unwanted, so if they wish to be called adware instead of spyware let them I agree with you, I also think the general public should just start lumping it all together and call it "Crapware"... just to save time. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: don't care what it's called, they want it gon said by parchamb : said by a1808991020 :I think most people consider spyware and adware the same thing. both are unwanted, so if they wish to be called adware instead of spyware let them I agree with you, I also think the general public should just start lumping it all together and call it "Crapware"... just to save time. Scumware has a nicer ring to it and its 100% true else they wouldn't slip it in or use an exploit to get it on your system. *cough coolwebsearch cough*
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zemus
join:2001-01-13
Brooklyn, NY | bash spyware yes... dont bash google toolbar. it's the next best thing to slice bread. | |
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SSX4life
Premium
join:2004-02-13
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: bash spyware yes... I would perfer to use firefox with a built in toolbar that has a range of different search engines to choose from. Ebay, Lycos, google, amazon, etc. Google toolbar isn't necessary bad, but it's um.... what is the word I'm looking for....
BLOAT
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN | divx & gator I thought divx would be rated high, with its gator software. I will only donate for real software like dvd decrypter and S&D spybot. screw the other corp sellouts i.e. Nero, clonecd. how long b4 firefox has ad banner. | |
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SSX4life
Premium
join:2004-02-13 | Re: divx & gator divx is great and you don't need to use the ad version either! Just download the 6 month trial version of the pro software w/better compression and no junk being installed on your pc. | |
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KazaaIsForLamers
@nj.us | Re: divx & gator Why would anyone use divx anyway?
There is something better called Xvid | |
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SSX4life
Premium
join:2004-02-13
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: divx & gator because depending on the source you are encoding some video is better with divx vs. xvid. Take it from an open source encoder like myself. I do heavy encoding (especially with anime, check the linky in my sig) and some sources depending on the color and hue look better with divx due to it adding hue to the final product. The best result can be obtained with divx over xvid @ times (I'm not biased @ all I'm just saying go with what works best for your source right?)
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@nj.us | Re: divx & gator Good info I did not know that since I'm not really a encoder
I'm just for open source and I really don't like what "divx" pulled off | |
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lyls
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SSX4life
Premium
join:2004-02-13 | Re: divx & gator because the .90 nm chipset overclocked is nearly equal to an FX 53. Which unless you are running a hella hot intel EE processor it will smoke anything intel out of the water. I also game so the benifit is double fold.
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pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
Premium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
clubs:
| Re: divx & gator said by SSX4life : .90 nm That's tiny!
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by lyls:
if you do so much video encoding then why on earth did you buy an amd?
probably because it runs games much better than the intel$ and has a better price to performance ratio than the intel$.
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ObdH
Premium
join:2003-06-11
| said by ossito16 :I thought divx would be rated high, with its gator software. I will only donate for real software like dvd decrypter and S&D spybot. screw the other corp sellouts i.e. Nero, clonecd. how long b4 firefox has ad banner. The old DiVX player eh?
heh, I remember that... they offered some conjured up explanation on why it was infested with malware...
it was either take the scumware...get the pay-copy.. or bootleg it...
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longstreet
join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX | hah.
2 gigs of RDRAM here. Intel all the way. ASUS is having my babies!!
Ownage. | |
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BUGZILLA 57
Don't Get Uranus Ablaze
Premium
join:2004-06-10
out there
clubs: | Kaaza is kaaka ...if they would change that FACT, folks would look at them differently. "You are what you is" Frank Zappa.
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JammerMan79
Premium,VIP
join:2004-05-13
Prince George, BC | Re: Kazaa SUCKS! the new version of kazaa stops working if you uninstall the spyware/adware.... I use a version like 3 years old it still works will all the cra* uninstalled with the exception of 2 .dll files...... | |
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | If you want Kazza Use kazzalite and not the spyware version. | |
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ironjarl
Premium
join:2002-02-27
Fort Collins, CO | kazzalite I have been using kazzalite for acouple of years & have found no no spyware or scumware.I have found it to be a fairly good program. | |
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join:2002-06-01
Collegedale, TN | Re: kazzalite Is it free? | |
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JammerMan79
Premium,VIP
join:2004-05-13
Prince George, BC | Re: kazzalite I use Kazaa because I'm Canadian and don't worry about the RIAA | |
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join:2004-09-29
Winston Salem, NC | Yes it is free but the RIAA is doing their best to get it Napstered. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | last time I tried Kazaalite it seemed like every file was trying to download Kazaa, the "it sucks version" on the infernal machine. | |
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Safron
join:2001-07-25
Gray, GA
clubs: | Shakespear That which we call sh!t by any other name would smell as foul.
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hedyd4u
Premium
join:2003-12-16
Schenectady, NY | adware spyware do the same thing Does adware not track where you go to generate ads to target you with? And if they track you is that not spying? Does anyone ask the question would you like your online viewing to be recorded? | |
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CenTex2
join:2003-04-16
Marlin, TX | LOL... Since when do people get offended for calling a turd a turd?
If it smells like spyware, looks like spyware, tastes like spyware, acts like spyware, installs like spyware, infests PC's like spyware..... (you get the idea) | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
| Re: LOL... I prefer to think of Spy/ad ware as computer crabs. | |
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longstreet
join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX
| Yep WOW . . .KaZaa doesn't even know what they are.
HA!
on the same page they claim they're not spyware you see :
'ad-supported'
Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
Look, use soulseek for your P2P needs.
Use Trillian for your IM needs (it uses all of them)
run ad-aware and spybot and your set. | |
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Garius
join:2002-04-18
| Spyware? Adware? Do I care? Arguing over the difference between spyware and adware when determining which one is "better" is like arguing about whether a katana is better than a machete while your standing over the dying man that you just gutted with them. He's unlikely to care, in his dying breath, which weapon was more likely to have harmed him the most. | |
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IronChefMoto
Premium
join:2001-02-08
Alpharetta, GA
|  Even worse -- they paired it with Skype
I WAS going to install Skype and use it as a means of gaming with 2-3 out of town friends without having to have a Ventrilo or Teamspeak server running in the background. Screw that idea now. Friends don't let friends install spyware.
IronChefMorimoto
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