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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
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1 edit | Increase in Alternatives It's good to see that alternative models are popping up. Something will stick someday.
The music industry won't be the ones that will find the solution that succeeds. So, having 3rd party developers and others coming up with all these alternatives that we're seeing more and more of lately is great. | |
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join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
| Re: Increase in Alternatives I wish there was a system to pay the artists directly bypassing the labels. I'd be all for paying the artists & not pirate music as long as the money went SOLELY to the artist. Until that happens, I will be "stealing" music from the newsgroups. The labels & RIAA raped me for years in the late 80's & 90's with their price fixing (which they were convicted for) and I'm justifying my theft as getting even for paying 18 bucks a CD 10 years ago. I have over 300 CD's I've bought so I've got a ways to catch up. Eye for an eye. | |
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Slidetbone
Mazin Go
Premium
join:2002-11-10
Land O Lakes, FL
| Re: Increase in Alternatives said by Cod  :I wish there was a system to pay the artists directly bypassing the labels. I second that. The RIAA deserves not a single penny! Hope there are more alternatives like this one. | |
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join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: Increase in Alternatives said by Slidetbone : said by Cod :I wish there was a system to pay the artists directly bypassing the labels. I second that. The RIAA deserves not a single penny! Hope there are more alternatives like this one. air is free, breathe all you like  | |
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a1808991020
join:2004-11-15
| how do you figure the label shouldn't get any money, there the ones taking all the risk its there money making the albums and promoting them. they are entitled to a return on there investment. and considering they are the ones taking all the risk they are entitled to the majority of the profits | |
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Slidetbone
Mazin Go
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join:2002-11-10
Land O Lakes, FL
| Re: Increase in Alternatives said by a1808991020 :how do you figure the label shouldn't get any money, there the ones taking all the risk its there money making the albums and promoting them. they are entitled to a return on there investment. and considering they are the ones taking all the risk they are entitled to the majority of the profits So...do you think it is fair that an artist selling gold and platinum sales gets about 2 to 4% of the profit while the label gets 40 to 70%?
Whilst the labels are putting the face and investment to promote the artist, they do not pay them well for it. It is to assume that the album will get the promotion and exposure to get the artists gigs. And that there is another issue as the artist will be going through a promoter that will charge him another percentage of the total ticket sales. And even that depends on the relationship he has with the "middlemen".
Do the numbers....the multinationals are sucking the artists dry.
Indies are fairing better. That is why RIAA places the blame on their slump in sales to P2P when in fact their product realls sucks and the indies are capitalizing on that hole. | |
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Anon15
@rr.com | The risks the RIAA take is in pushing off the "Ashlee Simpsons" of the world, as legitimate artists, and expecting us to pay $15-$20 for a CD of this crap.
When you are selling "TRUE" talent, there is NO risk! | |
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Goober
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
·WOW Internet and C..
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1 edit | Re: Increase in Alternatives said by flarn :they stand a chance of being bought out by a record label if they do stay alive Personally, I like suggestions that relate to elimination of the RIAA and recording companies and payment of artists directly. But, that's a large step and we can only start with baby steps.
I would hope that if some enterpreneuer(s) can come up with a system that works for both the recording industry and consumers, that it wouldn't matter who owns the technology.
I have a feeling it won't be that easy and that the recording industry will be dragged along kicking and screaming. One can hope though. | |
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techie
Premium
join:2003-06-18
Canada
clubs: | ... It's a gateway p2p app. | |
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brandon
Some truth included in this post.
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join:2003-03-31
Hurley, MS | Re: ... I imagine I'm the only one who got this. Nice one! | |
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stateq2
J Dilla
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join:2003-03-27
Jackson, MS | forget this more labels should join magnatune | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Re: forget this Yeah I really like their model quite a bit.... | |
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KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR | said by article:
Users can download tracks and play them three times, but upon a fourth listen they're prompted to pay for the track. No, thanks! | |
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join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: forget this said by KeepOnRockin : said by article:
Users can download tracks and play them three times, but upon a fourth listen they're prompted to pay for the track. No, thanks! i'd probably be pretty fedup the 3rd time, LMAO!!! | |
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DrewCapu
Giant Diehard
join:2001-12-19
California
clubs: | Instead of users earning money ... by passing tracks to friends,
Can I earn a Free iPod instead?  | |
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join:2003-01-26
Beacon, NY | Re: Instead of users earning money only if you refer 348478 people and complete 99 offers. | |
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scareg
join:2003-10-27
Walla Walla, WA | but....... What's to stop me downloading the file and using a wav file recording program to record the song and burning it to cd? | |
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aztecnology
O Rly?
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join:2003-02-12
Murrieta, CA
| Re: but....... said by scareg :What's to stop me downloading the file and using a wav file recording program to record the song and burning it to cd? Digital elves encoded within...
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Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
Stage 5.0
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| Re: but....... I fail to see how other (already existing) media players (assuming files downloaded from Weed can only be played on proprietary players) will even care about DRM. Weed player -> digital output (or even better, a sound capture program) -> record -> save -> hey presto, naked mp3.
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sorne guy
@66.84.x.x
| Re: but....... quote:
Weed player -> digital output (or even better, a sound capture program) -> record -> save -> hey presto, naked mp3.
why even waste all that effort?
download the mp3, period.
no need for DRM, real, WMA, windows, anything | |
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tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | Useless P2P This software is crap IMO. DRM in this program? That's worse than KaZaA full of spywares. | |
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lupinia
Premium
join:2004-08-24
Harrisonburg, VA
| Re: Useless P2P The point is that other music distibution models are being created, eventually we'll get one that will go mainstream. There will always be piracy, but a lot of would-be pirates would pay for their music if they thought it was priced and distributed fairly.
Personally, if CDs drop to an average cost of $8 each (for a 15-song CD or so), I'd buy more of them. | |
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join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA
| Re: Useless P2P said by lupinia :The point is that other music distibution models are being created, eventually we'll get one that will go mainstream. There will always be piracy, but a lot of would-be pirates would pay for their music if they thought it was priced and distributed fairly. Personally, if CDs drop to an average cost of $8 each (for a 15-song CD or so), I'd buy more of them. yea if you have a lot of money to spend which most of us dont at this time... | |
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jnasc770
join:2001-01-04
Riverside, RI | WEED..hehe Can you smoke it after you install it.....:D | |
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PhoenixAZ
Joshua
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join:2004-01-04
Phoenix, AZ
·Cox HSI
| I also agree I also agree, the money shouldnt go to the labels at all, they usually pay the artists 2% or something, and keep the rest of the money!
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sorne guy
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| Re: I also agree people go to the labels voluntarily
nobody told U2 that if they didn't go to Virgin records, an executive would kill their families or something
record labels can make you famous--that is the dream, and it is a fact--publishing your own music and selling it at swap meets probably won't make you famous, but you keep what you earn for yourself
that said, i have no pity for the people who sell their souls to the record man | |
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LilianP
@chello.nl
| Well that is one of the GOOD THINGS of Weed:
THE MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO THE ARTISTS!
Weed only gets 15% for running the system and maintaining it.
Any artist can be his own distributor (ICP) and so earns 85% with each download/buy directly from his source (and always receives 50% whether it's shared 4 or 1.000 times!)
If he/she chooses someone to be his ICP to do all the webwork and host it, then the artist receives 50%.
35% is always split amongst the ones who pass the songs on and artists are fine with that.
DRM worse than spyware? There is NOTHING to be afraid of DRM. Oh an application on your pc? Well do you work in DOS? No, than why do you have other programs/applications on your pc? Yep to make life easier!
Crack it? Sure go ahead but than you rule yourself out tha game of earning some doe yourself huh?
Musical greetings,
Lilian
webmistress of Sananda Maitreya, and he IS very happy with Weed (all forms  | |
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sorne guy
@milwwi.ameritech | Re: I also agree you were an annoying moron at zeropaid, and you aren't any less moronic or annoying here
schill your poison on your own web site | |
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LilianP
@chello.nl
| Re: I also agree You feel annoyed by me? Why? Coz I like/support the Weed system and have no problems with DRM and express my views about it?
Calling me a moron even.....
Well you might call me ignorant that I misinterpret discussionboards as places where we can respectfully debate, share ideas/visions/humor etc. and hear eachothers experiences.
You won't see/hear me "flaming" anybody for sure.
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