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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | Re: hopefully they won't suck Don't think anything will get better with Kerry if he gets in. Both sides are in industry pockets, especially with the telcos. | |
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Alpine
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join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
| Re: hopefully they won't suck said by JakCrow  :
Don't think anything will get better with Kerry if he gets in. Both sides are in industry pockets, especially with the telcos.
This one always cracks me up. The Telcos have all the politicians in their pockets, huh? I guess that's why the politicians passed things like the Telecom Act of 1996, which was ooooh-so-friendly to the telcos..
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join:2003-05-20
Manhattan Beach, CA
| Re: hopefully they won't suck said by Alpine :
This one always cracks me up. The Telcos have all the politicians in their pockets, huh? I guess that's why the politicians passed things like the Telecom Act of 1996, which was ooooh-so-friendly to the telcos..
Common sense...
Adam
I dunno, the Telco 1996 sounded bad for telcos, and claimed that would provide for more competition. But it is now 2004, and Verizon is still my only choice for local telco service. I can find a couple DSL orivders that have to lease lines and rack space from Verizon a (more $$ for Verizon). So uing common sense, I'd say you were wrong and that the Telcos got a lot of restriction a loopholes into the 1996 telco act to save their sorry asses from competition, and they are working their butts off to squash voip, cable or anythign else that might threaten their fiefdom. I'd also say Powell has done a reasonable job at promoting technology, and trying to foster voip growth. | |
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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| Re: hopefully they won't suck Its not the FCC's problem that you can't get another provider. its the CLECs they have not requested to resell or build their own network.
Yes i don't care for the LECs but if you do not have another company wanting to provide service than your stuck with the services you get from VZ.
Check your Excel.com, Sage.com, and MCI.com those providers offer service in many VZ and SBC areas. Also check out IDT.net . they are now in the local business as well besides long distance. | |
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kabhal
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Oklahoma City, OK | Yeah at least the cable companies are on the side of the little guy.  | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Re: hopefully they won't suck Yes, the telcos lauded TA'96 in press releases--but then removed those press releases from their websites when they challenged parts of the law in court.
Reed Hundt was the last "real" chair at the FCC. An experienced antitrust lawyer, he wrote original rules for TA'96 that the RBOCs hated. (You might expect that from someone who had experience with monopolies.)
Anyway, the RBOCs bought the Lincoln Bedroom or its equivalent, and Clinton shoved Hundt out. Hundt wrote a book about it--the best source.
Calvoiper
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| Re: hopefully they won't suck Such is the way of all these "deregulation" plans. The industry players involved praise these plans in public, while dragging their feet and trying to sue their way out of them in the background, instead of actually meeting their obligations for deregulation and reaping the rewards they could have gotten in the first place.
Deregulation is always pushed by industry special interests, where competing in the free market has no place in their plans, and the individual consumer is an afterthought. | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Re: hopefully they won't suck Often true, but I'm certainly not ready to condemn deregulation altogether.
I think airline deregulation has been a huge success.
Yes, people whine about being treated like cattle and other distractions, but the basic fact is that you can fly coast to coast round trip for under $200--and the best bargains are available to the little guy on vacation, while the business traveller on a short schedule is the one usually paying the highest prices! This is a true reversal from the usual situation where big business gets the cheapest prices.
If we still had the Civil Aeronautics Board regulating air travel, you wouldn't find a JFK-LAX fare for under about $850 RT--though you'd still get probably get roasted almonds instead of the cheaper pretzels as a snack.
Competition has brought us directTV at the seat (JetBlue) and leather seating in coach (JB and SouthWest), both amenities rated highly by customers.
Yes, I prefer the somewhat more confusing atmosphere of a competitive market--but then, I'm not one of the sheep that wants others to make decisions for me--I'm willing to accept the responsibility of deciding such things for myself.
Calvoiper
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | Re: hopefully they won't suck I'd say airline deregulation has been a double edged sword given the massive bailouts, and I wouldn't necessarily lump the airline industry in with the telco or power industries. | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
| Re: hopefully they won't suck Any change in regulation is always a double-edged sword.
Let's just look at long distance.
Adjusted for inflation, we'd be paying around $1.00 a minute for LD if pre-1982 rates from ATT were still in effect.
And as for the bailouts, they're mistakes--at least as bad as the unnecessary "subsidy" funds in telecom. Those airlines should have gone broke, and they likely still will.
(Likewise, saving Chrysler just postponed the inevitable and gave Daimler-Benz something to gobble up. And let's not even mention Lockheed, OK?)
Calvoiper
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ | Any bets on who made him a job offer? Verizon? SBC? | |
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Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| Re: hopefully they won't suck said by sporkme :
Any bets on who made him a job offer? Verizon? SBC?
Probably the BPL Providers.;) He has been their biggest cheerleader. Sorry, I won't miss him.
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: hopefully they won't suck I'm betting on some supposedly neutral "think-tank" or consultancy, where he'll park for a year or so before going back to being an RBOC whore.
Calvoiper
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Kerry is better
@dslextreme.com
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TheGiant
| Bush was governor of Texas SBC is based out of Texas and Verizon has a significant presence there. I can't imagine that a Democratic president can do any worse than Bush and his appointee Powell have. | |
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Infidels Won
join:2004-07-24
Deep River, CT
1 edit | Re: Bush was governor of Texas And what exactly is the valid argument you're trying to make here? That simply because SBC is based out of Texas and that Verizon has a fairly big footprint there that, somehow, Bush is in their pocket? Good argument... except for those annoying little things called FACTS that you Democrats always love to leave out. | |
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join:2003-08-16
Staten Island, NY
clubs: | I wish I wish we could vote for chairman of the FCC... then maybe not everything would get censored. | |
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|  Can't give monopoly and ASK them to play nice!
Deregulating a monopoly means ALLOWING monopolistic behavior. It was already hard enough to get them to honor the law. What do you think will happen now that they are not required to honor any kind of deal?
I am not a democrat. But Kerry can't be any worse than Bush and Powell have been for broadband. | |
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Don't do it . ..
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join:2003-10-01
Batavia, IL
1 edit | Who is president is insignificant Good Legislation or bad lobbying start and end in the Congress.
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Infidels Won
join:2004-07-24
Deep River, CT
1 edit | Re: Who is president is insignificant "Mr. Powell, a Republican, was nominated by President William J. Clinton on July 31, 1997, and confirmed by the United States Senate on October 28, 1997."
Chairman is nothing but a glorified position on the FCC board. He may have been appointed the Chairman of the FCC by President Bush, but he was placed on the FCC board by President Clinton. So what was it you were saying about partisan politics?
And you really should take an economics class so you can figure out what the real point of deregulation is.
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Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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2 edits | be afraid, be very afraid President elect Senator Kerry anounces his choice for FCC
Chairman.....and you thought it couldn't get worse.
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Sent By Grocery Clerks
join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO | Re: be afraid, be very afraid Now that is funny! | |
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