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loserhead
3 Billion Chinese People Can Be Wrong
join:2004-01-01
Ellijay, GA | Re: comcast is weak i would take 4Mbps
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Phil
Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | Re: comcast is weak I get 3Mb/s down. I can't imagine having to use any more than that. Cable providers continue to raise d/l speeds, but what customers really want is raises in upload speeds.
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callihn4
join:2002-01-10
Space
| Re: comcast is weak said by Phil  :
I get 3Mb/s down. I can't imagine having to use any more than that. Cable providers continue to raise d/l speeds, but what customers really want is raises in upload speeds.
I agree somewhat raised or not I would like to see lower priced tiers and the ability to use some of the upload responsibly, though I am convinced the latter will never happen. | |
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join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA
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August 11th, @01:33AM
| Re: comcast is weak ...As long as you live within 6,000' of an RT/CO for DSL.
....which is the major majority of DSL customers that live in "Da Hood". Yep, Thousand Oaks..I.E. Ventura County in my book...
Enjoy the smog,, traffic, Gangbangers baby!!!!. I love watch'in KTLA in the morning with the traffic reports-or streaming KFI on the 'net w/their traffic reports. Yeah..I wanna move to "Thousand Oaks", so I can get your DSL speeds..
Gawd...
But..when you 'come up for air' in S.L.O. County, we have 3 simple rules:
1) Enjoy your stay.
2)Spend LOTS of $$$.
3)then.. GO HOME!!!!
...and drive safely...CHP patrols BIG TIME in S.L.O., Santa Barbara County...
What a Moron....and for those of you that are reading this, here's an approximate of population:
County of San Luis Obispo: 275,000 Souls.
Thoudand Oaks: Population (year 2000): 117,005, Est. population in July 2002: 122,700 (+4.9% change)
Males: 57,440 (49.1%), Females: 59,565 (50.9%) | |
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Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | Re: comcast is weak You think that Thousand Oaks is "da hood"?
Anyways, the distance barrier for DSL is the only thing still allowing cable companies to gouge their customers in the wallet.
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@cox.net | You must not download music then! If AOL charged you $49.95 for dialup, you would probably think you're ripping THEM off! | |
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Rojo Sol
Premium
join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
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| Re: comcast is weak said by keeetan:
You must not download music then! If AOL charged you $49.95 for dialup, you would probably think you're ripping THEM off!
Umm, no. So this must mean that you're downloading ~500 GB per month? That's a hell of a lot of music. Cable company says, "Gee, lets double our download speeds so our customers can download a terabyte a month, but of course we'll have to enforce our secret download cap".
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join:2002-11-13
Toms River, NJ | i can take an upload up grade....screw the upgraded download | |
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join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
| Re: comcast is weak quote:
Not to be upstaged by Time Warner Cable's 6Mbps tier, Comcast quickly issued a press release announcing a 4Mbps tier
Unfortunately they called it a new tier... not an upgrade, which probably means that it will cost more.
So instead of more for nothing... comcast is more for something. | |
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IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL
| "4,5 and even 10Mbps are becoming increasingly common in North America."
4000 and 5000 Ok I can see that now. If and when many of the ISP who are announcing speed upgrades. Do so for all of there customer base. Not just a select few. But very few see the 10000 down or the 1000 up that OOL provides and @Home used to deliver.
My ISP used to a leader when others were at 1500 they kept us at 3000. But there supposed answer to the latest cable and DSL upgrades is to maybe give us Comcast speeds of 4000/256. This is rumored. I'll believe it when I see it. Comcast does have a 50% stake in my ISP - Insight. There current packages are 3000/128 for $34.95 if you have there cable and your own modem. Same requirements gets you 3000/384 for $69.95 a month. There is no current information on what they would give the 3000/384 tier users ( I'm one of them ) when they upgrade to the 4000/256 as there main package offering. No one seems to ever be able to get leaked press from them here anymore.
I'd say the 9th largest cable company in the US. Definitely doesn't meet with the statement I quoted above.
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join:2004-07-19
Sarasota, FL | how will sbc and the rest of the ilec's even come close to these speeds? 7mbs .......wow? | |
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Premium
join:2003-01-16
Sharon, WI
clubs: | Charter And Charter is asleep during all this...
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA | Re: Charter Charter is not asleep, they are making enough money not upgrading. Paul Allen is enjoying the benefits of milking the cow a little longer. Just like bellsouth, I know it will be years before Bellsouth even thinks about a 5-6 meg level. | |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
Premium
join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
clubs: | Re: Charter Bellsouth just rolled out 3 megs. Bellsouth is a very good company. | |
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA | Re: Charter Yea they did just roll out three megs, which we were the second to last to have three megs. Comcast had three megs almost a half a year before bellsouth released the press release regarding the speed upgrade. | |
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join:2004-02-04
South Beloit, IL
clubs: | Re: Charter They're always behind, sadly. It would be very different if they were so behind, everyone left to another isp, but they're keeping up JUST enough not to cause an exodus of customers. | |
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JIGA
Its A Bird, Its A Plane, Its..
Premium
join:2002-02-02
Azle, TX
clubs: | Re: Charter 3meg/256k is fine for me, better than f'ing 56k
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
Premium
join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
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| Re: Charter Very true man. When you look at it like that, my meager 1.5/256 is a godsend over 56k. Right now my biggest problem is a bottleneck on the pc side, still running a laptop from '99. The speeds come in handy when downloading files, but when web surfing, my laptop takes longer to load the page than it does to download it. Though I could really use more upload for playing games online with the PS2.
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15,000 Watts of Bass Power
join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT | I have the advertised 3Mb/256k package, but I consistently get 1460/167 on all the DSLR tests now after an outage early this summer. It came back at half speed and has been there ever since. | |
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Unoffical Dominos Spokesman
join:2002-01-10
Vancouver, WA
clubs: | Re: Charter just wondering if ou called in about it... | |
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91439306
15,000 Watts of Bass Power
join:2002-10-16
New Milford, CT
| Re: Charter Yes, I did. They even were going to change my feed (since I'm located on a border between counties) to the feed from my county/town, but when they sent a tech out here to do the job, he didn't have any information to work from. Bad communication at the command center. And I don't see how changing which feed I get service from will affect a speed problem that existed only since they replaced an amplifier last month that was destroyed by a power spike.
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miahsa
@rr.com | thats all fine and good IF I COULD GET CABLE OR DSL! WTH is with time warner and these other companies...Why dont you spend more money on getting the deployments OUT and less on running your mouth about what you are "about" to give existing customers. | |
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BonezX
Basement Dweller
Premium
join:2004-04-13
Canada | heh heh heh heh i like where i live | |
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Anti_Cyrix
Premium
join:2003-03-06
Sacramento, CA | Re: heh heh heh me too.
10mbps fiber up and down.
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join:2001-01-14
Santa Monica, CA
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August 10th, @11:18AM
| adelphia adelphia just boosted me to 4000 dl and 512k up... however after being on the phone with them for a while i could only get about 3500 or so, but my upload was raised and i upload at about 70ks now, which is just fine by me.. the only excuse she could give me for my dl speeds was that i live in a rather "nice" area.. trying to say that most the people around me have cable as well and thats why my download is slow... but whatever i got a good deal anyway... and the upload makes me happy..
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most recent speed test
2958/539 kbps from speak easy..
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fundamentalz
The Basics
Premium
join:2004-04-30
Moorpark, CA | Re: adelphia Did you upgrade to the premier, or did adelphia get you this for free? | |
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jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
·Verizon Online DSL
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August 10th, @04:45PM
| Re: adelphia In response to fundamentalz :
Adelphia flat-priced "Premier" at $60 - regardless of market, regardless of previous plan, regardless of bundle. For people who, as I, are unbundled (no TV) and in one of the expensive markets it was a $2 jump from $58 (no brainer. Too expensive, but no brainer on the whether to upgrade or not). For others who are in cheap markets & bundled with other services the $/mo hop can be as much as 25+ - so the decision for them will vary tremendously from user to user.
Like others here, my upspeed went straight to a stable 510+ but downspeed is running 2900-3200 (rather than the previous 2800-3000) but all I cared about was the up. I haven't even bothered to tweak.
Other minor perks about "Premier" include 100mb webstorage (up from 10 ... or was that 50?), 10 mailboxes (up from 7), and other things I cannot recall. Hrmm, I should check to see if they raised the monthly allotment for NNTP throughputs. Doubt it, but ... | |
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Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD | Upload Speeds or Lower prices 256K SUCKS, we need more upload or better prices. 1meg up minimum!! | |
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technick
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA | I think... I honestly think I will stop bitching about these speeds once I have 30/30. That would keep me content for a very very very long time. | |
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Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx | Re: I think... Can we quote you on that in, say, 2008 when you're whining for 100/60? ;^) | |
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ViviTheMage
The Dude - 1337sk33t
Premium
join:2002-10-28
Minneapolis, MN
clubs: | rr sweet 6mbps....go rr go! haha.
a little faster upload would be nicer though :/
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Premium
join:2003-08-16
Staten Island, NY
clubs: | Re: rr not really sweet... cost is too much, that speed should be standard and not some "premium" tier | |
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Premium
join:2003-08-04
Lutz, FL
| said by ViviTheMage :
sweet 6mbps....go rr go! haha.
a little faster upload would be nicer though :/
Splain it to me Rickey.. Why do you need more upload?
Coming from a Sysop from the days of 2400 baud dial-up, and having to deal with users sucking up files.. why do you NEED to have people get files from your machine?
Lets do a conjecture here so you will understand my point.
1) What files are you offering? Why let people leech..for free? ARe you planning to get something in return?
2) Web pages, are you planning to run a webserver in you rhome.. is that why you need more upload bandwidth? Ask any admin... They will tell you, the smart money is to host the webserver OTHER than your ISP. Think about how many times Cable/DSL goes down. Is it reliable enough to count on it being up? NO. And if you say "eh won't need 100%" up time, then why do NEED the increased upload speed then?
3) Ping Speeds DO NOT contend on Speed. We had good connect speeds a few years ago on a 128K ISDN playing StarCraft.. There are usually only 8 people in a game *MAX*. The ping speed is distance dependent not bandwidth. So the ping comes from the time it takes to make a round trip, not the amount of highway it has to run on.
Consider, A Ferrari on a highway. IT doesn't matter if its a 2 lane or 8 lane highway.. If ALL the lanes are full, you aren't going anywhere faster than a PT Cruiser.. Ping goes out, its only 8k.. maybe 16 or even 32 K packets.. a few mili-seconds apart.. That's it. Even if they are real time (like for Everquest), the increased bandwidth from *YOUR* machine to the server, isn't going to give you faster ping times to someone else waiting to get ACKS.. The server traffic sits on a segment.. and it waits for data to come in, do something with it, and return the info. THAT'S IT. The Server needs high DOWNLOAD (a la, CABLE/DSL) for incoming data.. So, each persons connection is UNIQUE to the server. So person A connecting to Everquest is sending data at 16k packets..(note, don't need a 1 meg uplink from that machine to Everquest), person B connecting the same...
Now I will acknowledge in your neighborhood maybe you have friends that want to SHARE Mp3's. That's fine.. however, putting those files on an external server.. is better.. they shouldn't be leeching from your connection. Why share your bandwidth? Do you want to be the local server for your entire block? Let them get their own files.. why give them yours.. at the very least, keep the bandwidth to yourself.
Now, I am very aware there are people out there that like to upload files.. That's good. But again, unless you work from home, or are a developer, as one user pointed out, 95% of people don't NEED the increased upload bandwidth. I am developer.. I am a SysAdmin/Network Engineer. ITs been years.. since I remember *EVER* NEEDING a large upload bandwidth. My time is my time, I play at home, at work we have a t3 with 3.0/3.0 u/l.. but even then.. WE don't ever use the uplink to send files.. no need. You are asking for something, because you have information that shows the number is low. You will NOT use it. So.. Realize, the importance of download bandwidth, and quit worrying about upload. Its not going to enhance your gaming experience if that's what you want it for.. What we NEED is the internet community to demand LOAD Balancing for servers.. more servers equals better connections.
1 traffic cop diverting 200 cars at 1 intersection doesn't do anyone much good. You have to wait for that one corner. 10 cops diverting 20 cars.. that's much faster.. when properly managed. A server can manage data on different segments simultaneously. Even better 2 servers or 5 servers or more, managing the SAME connection is the way to do it.. not increasing bandwidth to the same server. That's what we NEED! | |
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Guru. Kneel
join:2000-12-19
Boston, MA
clubs: | RCN is rolling out 7000/800 only decent up speed Let's not forget RCN - they are going from 5000/800 to 7000/800 Sept 1. One of the only ISP's (other then OOL) to have decent upload speeds... | |
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Premium
join:2001-01-22
Amarillo, TX | Re: RCN is rolling out 7000/800 only decent up speed Cox has 768 up now for their premier tier (only 54.95). There's another one in the ball game | |
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@ameritech.net
| Lets demand what we want and take nothing else! I say we should boycott these new teirs and tell ISPs what we want!
Not portals
Downstream is nice but upstream is great!
Bundling MUST DIE
Sensible price MUST LIVE (on a stand alone month to month bases)
More coverage and better maintenance of their own network!
We see that they are willing to compete with each other, the economy isn't what it was 2 three yeas ago when and they are trying to give us more through competition.
Now is the time to start demanding what we want and then showing our support by buying what we asked for when we get it | |
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Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast
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August 10th, @12:57PM
| Doing good on Adelphia in Nor Cal :) I'm getting 5000-5500 down and 550-600 up on Adelphia's Premier Tier (4000/512) here in Northern California for 59 a month, and I get those speeds on a 24x7, 365 basis, not bad at all
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Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx | Re: Doing good on Adelphia in Nor Cal :) Either you're on another Adelphia than I or you really only get that 347 days per year. | |
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RR Conductor
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA | Re: Doing good on Adelphia in Nor Cal :) Same company, better system | |
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Doubledee32
join:2002-06-20
Charlotte, NC
| WHY? Maybe somebody can expalin to me why you really care about upload speeds. Download sure-I'm getting 2.6M here in NC. And I'm reading some of these posts and for the life of me unless your running your own website-Do you really care how much upload speed you have? | |
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fundamentalz
The Basics
Premium
join:2004-04-30
Moorpark, CA
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August 10th, @01:23PM
| Re: WHY? Well, if you try to upload anything remotely big to someone, be it an attachment in an email or a song over to a friend, try dl through bit torrent, or host a server (game or otherwise), you will notice why people want more upload | |
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darkadept
Premium
join:2002-02-17
Greenwood, IN
| I have insight cable, and though the service is 3/128, I only get roughly 2600k download and 116k upload. I previously had a 384 upload, and I miss it terribly. Trying to send out some high quality pictures via email can be painfully slow on the 128 line. I wish we would get moved up to 384 or higher like the rest of the companies are doing as a standard. | |
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Hangmn
Don't Fight It...It's Inevitable
Premium
join:2000-04-08
Philadelphia, PA | Re: WHY? Welcome to Comcast, Insight has just been aquired by the big CC.
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join:2002-06-20
Charlotte, NC | Re: WHY? Hmmm-Well I'm getting-2686 kbps down and 359 kbps up so I guess I should count my blessing! | |
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JE
Can I Taste It? Mmmm
Premium
join:2000-12-15
Brooklyn, NY
|  SCUMCAST!
4Mbps does NOT equal 6Mbps. At least 5 or 5.5 would be better respected. 4Mbps makes them look very VERY WEAK, PLus 4Mbps is OLD news, as other companies have been there, DONE THAT already!
Give your customers what they want SCUMCAST!
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Premium
join:2004-03-05
Knoxville, TN
| Re: SCUMCAST! said by JE :
HOW THE HELL CAN SCUMCAST NOT BE UPSTAGED?
4Mbps does NOT equal 6Mbps. At least 5 or 5.5 would be better respected. 4Mbps makes them look very VERY WEAK, PLus 4Mbps is OLD news, as other companies have been there, DONE THAT already!
Give your customers what they want SCUMCAST!
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And I suppose using terms such as this will get you what you want?
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SpitefulCrow
Insert Witty Tag Here
Premium
join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA | What about OOL? We already have 10Mbit...
So if cable is speeding up, does this mean we'll get 12 or 15 Mbit??  | |
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jarablue
Always be true to yourself
join:2001-06-11
Worcester, MA | Charter zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz huh wha WHA?! OH....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... | |
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join:2004-02-24
Windsor, ON
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join:2002-08-02
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August 10th, @09:20PM
| isnt charter always the last one... to do upgrades. 3Mb down is nice, but the 256 up is sort of outdated, I wish I could get another cable provider here, but I doubt thats going to happen anytime soon. I really dont think charter gives a crap about its customers. They need to get with the program, they just got 3Mb and everyone else is moving to 4-5Mb. by the time they get to 4-5/386-512, everyone else will be at 8/768... they need to do a serious rehaul to catch up.
"gotta luv canada
gotta luv canada and rogers
get 5000/800 for 40 cdn dollars a month
same price people are paying for 3mbit service (you have to buy the modem, thats the only catch and the modem was cheap 80 bux now its 100)"
This is america, people are way more greedy here.
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@pool002.CH001-alhamb | North America is =slow= compared to Japan ...where a friend of mine pays $50 US for =50= Mb/s down. I have no idea what his up is.
Evidently fiber-to-the-home is common in Japan...
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Come get some
Premium
join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA
clubs: | Re: North America is =slow= compared to Japan I'll soon be on TWC's 6000/512 plan, but i wish we'd have 10,000/5000 speeds, with a new/decent computer, speeds like that would really rock. | |
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| my problem i have cable service with cox but i keep getting some slow d/l speeds. i keep getting 32 kb/s. im tired of this and i wish i was back like i used to be a couple of weeks ago at 700 kb/s. i just get random speeds. my u/l are also at 32 kb/s. i want to make them faster. how would i make them faster? e-mail me at ruben_val88@yahoo.com if u have any solutions | |
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