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join:2003-05-25
Woodbridge, ON | Enough with the download! Give us UPLOAD! Seriously, once you are in the 5meg+ category, downpipe no longer really matters. Concentrate on uploads now.
I have 9.5down/1.6 up.
I tried sending my friends a gameplay vid we made, holy mother of god, takes ages. | |
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Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY | Re: Enough with the download! Give us UPLOAD! And who is providing 9.5/1.6 for you? HOw much is that? That is probably higher than most of us are getting, at least on the upload.
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
2 edits | Re: Enough with the download! Give us UPLOAD! Looks like he is load balancing DSL and cable, look at his profile and see his sig. | |
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@optonline.net
|  Re: 200 MBPS HI-SPEED BROADBAND over POWERLINES
read: »biz.yahoo.com/iw/041026/074896.h···rinter=1
Press Release Source: Ambient Corporation
Ambient Completes First Project in New York City
Tuesday October 26, 10:25 am ET
First to Commercially Deploy Second Generation Chipset Technology in North America
MADRID, SPAIN and NEWTON, MA--(MARKET WIRE)--Oct 26, 2004 -- Ambient Corporation (OTC BB:ABTG.OB - News), a leader in Power Line Communications (PLC) and a featured exhibitor at the IQPC International Powerline Communications Conference in Madrid announced today the successful completion of its joint project with Consolidated Edison (NYSE:ED - News) in the installation of a communications system in Con Edison's new First Avenue Steam Tunnel in Manhattan.
Kevin Burke, President of Con Edison, said, "We are pleased with the results of the project and its cost effectiveness. This state-of-the-art monitoring and communications system will serve us well."
Ambient, the first US company to incorporate the latest chipset from DS2 into its system, utilized DS2's second generation PLC technology, capable of running at speeds up to 200 Mbps, to build a multi-purpose communications network in an industrial environment. The network is utilized in Con Edison's new tunnel to monitor environmental conditions, the state of the steam main, and to provide telephony service in the tunnel utilizing the voice over IP (VoIP) technology provided by the DS2 chipset. This single network is a cost-effective solution that provides a variety of services that would traditionally have required multiple technologies and wiring systems.
Con Edison's steam system is unique to Manhattan. It serves about 1,800 customers from 105 miles of steam mains, stretching from Lower Manhattan to 96th Street.
Ram Rao, Chief Network Architect at Ambient, stated, "After years of successful demonstrations, Ambient is moving to a new level with near term plans to begin aggressively marketing its proven technology and equipment. The success of this project is another key step in Ambient's path to being the industry leader in PLC system design and installation."
"We at DS2 are pleased to have partners such as Ambient who have demonstrated their belief and commitment to aggressively pursue the market applications of the latest technology. They continue to demonstrate their market leadership in the Americas by proving the effectiveness of our latest technology in a real world environment. We are pleased to have a pioneering partner installing innovative technology in the company named after the man who pioneered electricity," added Jorge Blasco, CEO of DS2.
About Ambient Corporation
Ambient Corporation (OTC BB:ABTG.OB - News) is a development stage company engaged in the design, development and marketing of equipment and technologies that utilize existing electrical power medium voltage and low voltage distribution lines as a medium for the delivery of broadband and other communication services. The use of an electric power distribution system as a high-speed communication medium is commonly referred to as "power line communications" or "broadband over power lines." Visit us at www.ambientcorp.com.
About Con Edison
Con Edison is a subsidiary of Consolidated Edison, Inc. [NYSE: ED], one of the nation's largest investor-owned energy companies, with $10 billion in annual revenues and $22 billion in assets. The utility provides electric, gas and steam service to more than 3 million customers in New York City and Westchester County, New York. For additional financial, operations and customer service information, visit Con Edison's Web site at www.coned.com.
About DS2
Founded in 1998, DS2 is a fabless silicon design house and the leading supplier of silicon and software for Power Line Communications (PLC). Sales of DS2´s first generation chipsets with performance rates of up to 45Mbps reach $20 million worldwide. This technology converts the existing electricity grid and domestic power lines into a high-speed communications network supporting voice, video and data services at very low cost. DS2 Power Line Communications technology delivers the market's highest data rates with built-in flexibility to support co-existence between the BPL access and in-home markets. DS2's second-generation Power Line Communications technology delivers data rates in excess of 200 Mbps to support multiple simultaneous video-streams, voice and data applications. DS2 is active in many international forums on Power Line Communications including ETSI, CENELEC, UPLC, and self-regulating bodies such as HomePlug. More than ten world-class branded manufacturers incorporate DS2 technology into finished products. For more information about DS2, please visit »www.ds2.es | |
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gracie
Geek Goddess
Premium
join:2003-07-15
confusion
| said by t10  :I have 9.5down/1.6 up. it's sad when my internet porn is statements like this, which make me pant  .
as for the issue of upload, i was interested this past week to be discussing speeds with a cable installer. i told him i had 3/768 with verizon dsl, and he was installing for my friend cable which was 3/384. he said that the cable companies just don't think anyone really cares about upload; when they increase to 5 down in a few months, they are leaving the upload at 384. so in that respect, dsl beats cable, which in the speed wars has rarely been the case.
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YoHoHo
@optonline.net | Re: Enough with the download! Give us UPLOAD! that and his smeg+
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@comcast.net | Comcast will be upgrading
3 will goto 4 and 4 will goto 5 down. upload will increase as well. The highest upload will be 5/784 for now. Just hope your in a rebuild area! | |
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| haplo2112
join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA
| Agree totally...Currently on Charter 3/256 (so they claim for most areas) this is totally ridiculous....they need to fix this disparity between up and down when Charter jumps to 5 as is rumored to happen shortly they need to bring the upload to at least 1...but 1.5 -2.5 would be more reasonable. The pathetic upload has to go..... | |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| Download speeds are good enough. Upload speeds are not improving at the rate of download speeds. I have very little use for additional download speeds but I could use significant upgrades in upload speeds.
Cable companies realize that most users are averaging 100kbps or less daily so offering higher upload speeds do not cost them (and they disconnect those bandwidth hogs that try to take advantage of these speeds anyway). | |
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| Roop
join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
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| Re: Download speeds are good enough. exactly. i've had 5mbits for a while now. i find most sites can barley do 3mbits. of course, bit torrent and other p2p will max out your 5mbits but not http or ftp.
i'd be happy with some more up. it should be at the very least, one fifth of the downstream. | |
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join:2003-09-23
Abilene, TX | Re: Download speeds are good enough. well my website is unmetered and can use the full speed. | |
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| haplo2112
join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA
| pardon me...but some of us just have more needs than the average user...I don't use P2P apps at all (I say this because I know thats what you think when you say bandwidth hog)...however my activities on the net saturate my Cable modems upload nearly all the time. I don't hog it for any purpose other than accomplish those things that I have a Internet connection for, all of which are legal legitimate activities. | |
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DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX
| Re: Download speeds are good enough. said by haplo2112 :pardon me...but some of us just have more needs than the average user...I don't use P2P apps at all (I say this because I know thats what you think when you say bandwidth hog)...however my activities on the net saturate my Cable modems upload nearly all the time. I don't hog it for any purpose other than accomplish those things that I have a Internet connection for, all of which are legal legitimate activities. By bandwidth hog, I did not mean those that saturate the downstream every now and then. If you look at average DAILY bandwidth use you will be surprised how little it is so additional downstream bandwidth will not enhance the Internet experience much.
Often, when you try to use 1/4th or more of the available bandwidth on the average suddenly your find yourself being classified as bandwdith hog. By analogy, these broadband companies would like to offer a cake but they are not happy if you eat your cake all. So, size of the cake does not matter if you can only eat so much of the cake. (size being 3Mbps, 5Mbps etc) The size of the cake (bandwidth) is effectively an advertising item.
I also see that you could use more upstream bandwidth as well. Now, that is something to enhance your internet experience. I definitely would like to see more upstream bandwidth increase rather than a yet another downstream boost. If upstream is not going to keep up with downstream, I would rather stay at my current levels and pay less. Broadband companies are not offerring what the customers really need. | |
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south1178
Buckeye Stangs
Premium
join:2001-12-17
Cleveland, OH
clubs: | More upload I have the 6mbit/608 from SBC and love it. I would agree more upload is what I want. I'm even willing to pay for my upload bandwidth.
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join:2005-01-03
Cleveland, OH | Re: Forget More Download, give me Less Price i wish the upload speeds will increase .......i only have 256K now  | |
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B777300
join:2002-01-02
| Upload!! Yes, Now DSL is kind of stuck, The bells are a bit stupid to realize DSL got an advantage, being the upload. Now, Average DSL has 384 kbps upstream, We could easily have 800kbps-1mbit upload.
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·AT&T Midwest
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| To everyone wanting more upload speeds.... I really want more upload speeds as well. Right now, I have 1500/384, and I would LOVE to get an upload in the 768 or megabit range. However, I realize this isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Right now, the main problem with giving more upload speeds are P2P applications. Right now, you can download several gigabyte files with no issues. However, if you are running Shareaza, Bittorrent, Kazaa, etc, then your upload is going full bore 24/7 (unless you set up bandwidth limiting or netlimiter). The main problem with offering so much upload is that people will leave these applications running 24/7 and saturate the connection.
Case in point...
I used to be a network administrator at a college here in MI. Every student had access to the T3 internet connection and could do what they wanted for the most part. However, after P2P was released, it didn't take many students to bring that T3 network to its knees. It was estimated that it only took 25 students to do that.
Don't get me wrong, maybe the ISP will have that bandwidth to burn down the road and we all will get more upload speeds. I have just learned to be patient. To be honest, I like how fast my connection is right now. If everyone gets double upload speeds on my node, does the ISP have the resources to handle it? Will everyone running these applications on my node hinder my connection?
Lets answer those questions first.
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join:2004-03-19
Here
| Re: To everyone wanting more upload speeds.... I think you're right on that. Considering that a lot of the upper tier broadband links are symmetrical they probably have the bandwidth but know if they opened it up it'd get sloshed.
They'll probably hold the gate fr a long while then once they get a way to make sure the network will be okay they'll let it go through. | |
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join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA
| Re: To everyone wanting more upload speeds.... Invalid argument! Bandwidth is cheap, and the price of it is a fictitious made up number. The price of bandwidth is set up the upstream providers they have more than they know what to do with and could sell the same to you for cheap money and still make a huge profit because the cost is completely made up. I've talked with Network engineers at AT&T, Sprint, Verizon...they all know and admit that the costs and restrictions are all a front office thing and has nothing what so ever to do with their capability to push the data around. | |
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| Deathsadvoca
join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs:
| this hasent seemed to be a problem for asian isp's (where piracy is as previlant or even more so there). if they can offer 1mbps upload + than why cant american isp's? i would like to see increased download and upload here. i would love a 8mbps+//1.5mbps+ connection. | |
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sahirs
join:2002-02-14
Singapore
| Re: To everyone wanting more upload speeds.... Ummmm - broadband in Singapore is quite expensive and limited!
A typical ADSL goes for S$76 (US$45) - for 512Kbps download/256Kbps upload.
The fastest cable you can get here is 3Mbps download/256Kbps upload.
I haven't heard of any 8Mbps downloads or 1.5Mbps uploads!
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Ark
join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI | Hey, what college? Man I hated GVSU after they decided to firewall all incoming traffic. I had to move off campus my last year and get DSL just to do anything. | |
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mlody
join:2000-07-26
Des Plaines, IL
| make multiple tiers!!! I would love to see multiple tiers of cable service
For example give us:
784kbps/128up for $19.99
1.5mbps/256kbps for $29.99
3.0mbps/384kbps for $39.99
5.0-10mbps/784kbps-1.5mbps for $49-$59
We should also have an option to pay less for bare connection (no e-mails etc) – I care less if I am being offer 5-10 free e-mail addresses since they are not really free! Just bare connection is what some people want! | |
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Game Addicts
join:2002-05-27
Carmel, NY
| Re: make multiple tiers!!! Right now I have 1500/800 because I live in SENY and that is all RCN serviced to us. Now the company that bought RCN in my area is increasing my download to 5MB but they are decreasing my upload to 256 and I don't know if I can take that. I use my upload more than the download.
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join:2002-01-02 | Re: make multiple tiers!!! wow thats gay. | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-22
Okemos, MI | Re: make multiple tiers!!! Gay? | |
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join:2002-01-02 | Re: make multiple tiers!!! more like horrible.. downgrade from 800 kbps to 256 kbps, especially when you're used to 800 kbps.
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Insert Witty Tag Here
Premium
join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA
| Re: GAY? said by B77730 is a loser:Why are you saying gay and saying its "more like horrible". It sounds like your a horrible person!!!!! A*sH*l*!!! Because he corrected himself for saying gay in the OP and said horrible instead later. I agree, using gay as an insult is bad. At least he realized that it was wrong when someone pointed it out, which is more than a lot of people can do.
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@attbi.com | Re: GAY? Haha!You have Optimum online  .No wonder you aint complaining about bandwidth.They need to set up shop HERE,in my area. | |
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SpitefulCrow
Insert Witty Tag Here
Premium
join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA | Carmel isn't a Cablevision franchise??
Well, don't worry. Putnam County is probably on Verizon's list for Fios along with the rest of the NY metro area. | |
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join:2004-08-09
Detroit, MI
| I have 1.5mbps/384kbps from SBC now for 29.99.
What is driving the up down thing is network headroom and network bottle necks. As for email accounts and storage capacity for have to think about servers and storing and backing up all of that stuff. SBC has the best DSL footprint. We all want more speed of 29.99 but that is coming with Fiber upgrades. Fiber is not free and copper is not either.
For now you can buy T lines or some other kind of business grade service( just the connection, you will have to provide your own server and such) that will give you more speed than you get from the Cable guys. In the telco world you have a straw -DSL and Cable, a garden hose- T lines and so on. | |
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join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
·Cox HSI
| said by mlody :For example give us: 784kbps/128up for $19.99 I agree with that for my home. I know family members that would like an option like that. Don't get me wrong 4k down is great, but it is like having a hot rod to go the grocery store for milk. | |
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join:2002-01-02 | wtf did i do? | |
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qdemn7
Smurf in My Loop
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX | Upload Speeds and XXAA I'm wondering if the MPAA / RIAA might be putting some subtle pressure on providers to limit uploads to slow down P2P? Whaddaya think? | |
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join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA | dialup I feel like shooting myself...gogo 28.8kbps internet! | |
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mamoon
@fdn.com
| Are we forgetting? All of this speed increase is precursor to Telcos getting into content providing. It's even been posted here the rates needed for that. However, it would be nice for business access to something other than T-1 ($400/mnth + fee +fee +fee) for uploading private content (Security company use, mainly). | |
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| flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA | T-1's are more here I can Get a T-1's for $1470+ a month if I own the Q.
QWEST needs an enima.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| 2x2Mbps We have a Road Runner Biz Class connection at work that is 2Mbps x 2Mbps and man, it is sweet.
I have RR at home, 5Mbps/384Kbps and it's almost painful when I need to grab a file off my home machine.
When I am home and need to grab a file off our Biz Class connection though, man it's sweet.
I had RR Premium for a while, but even that paltry 512Kbps upload wasn't worth it.
I'd personally like to see a 1Mbps upload, but I'm not holding my breath. | |
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join:2004-08-24
Edmonton, AB
1 edit | said by Matt :We have a Road Runner Biz Class connection at work that is 2Mbps x 2Mbps and man, it is sweet. I have RR at home, 5Mbps/384Kbps and it's almost painful when I need to grab a file off my home machine. When I am home and need to grab a file off our Biz Class connection though, man it's sweet. I had RR Premium for a while, but even that paltry 512Kbps upload wasn't worth it. I'd personally like to see a 1Mbps upload, but I'm not holding my breath. Move to Canada into Shaw Cable Territory and you'll be geting 5m down adn 1mb up. Let's not forget that shaw is gonna be upping it to 7mb some time in the next year!! I just hope they up the upload to 2mb and up the bandwidth limit to 100 GB from 50. Sorry I like to brag to Americans, ehehehehehe XD | |
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The Laughing Man
join:2001-11-19
Hamilton, ON
| Re: 2x2Mbps Broadband in Canada has been very competitive for a while (I have 4800/800 cable at school and 5500/600 cable at home, both only 45 CDN$ a month) but over the past year it seems like the average broadband in america is starting to pick up the pace with upgrades to service speeds. I'm sure they'll be level with canada soon enough.
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join:2004-08-24
Edmonton, AB
1 edit | Re: 2x2Mbps said by Fluxlo :Broadband in Canada has been very competitive for a while (I have 4800/800 cable at school and 5500/600 cable at home, both only 45 CDN$ a month) but over the past year it seems like the average broadband in america is starting to pick up the pace with upgrades to service speeds. I'm sure they'll be level with canada soon enough. Actually we are flying off to 7mb cable and 8mb dsl shortly.... now let's see how long it takes for the U.S.A. catch up to that. I certainly hope you catch up fast because the internet will be a bit more faster and the bottle neck will reduce a little.
I'm throwing the idea around in my head trying grasp the math...but logically in reason it would seem the faster a connection is the less of a burden it is on the infrastructure of the internet because the less time it spends obtaining data. (However this can be negated by bandwidth HOGS..)
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kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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| more cable ISPS should offer more than 512K up For me the sweet spot for upload is around 768KBPS. Verizon DSL lines do that quite nicely, so if you want upload and you're in Verizon areas, you've got it made. However the only US cable companies I see over speeds above 384KBPS are Adelphia, optimum online, Cox, and RR in some areas. The only cable companies with speed packages above 512KBPS that I'm aware of are optimum online and Cox, and business RR. Why aren't more cable providers offering upstream of 768K? And to my knowledge, Cox is the only cable company on the West coast offering a 768KBPS teer to their residential customers! We need to get more cable providers like crapcast, I mean comcast to offer upstream at or above 768KBPS. And finally why can't SBC offer upstream of 768K? Why did they stick to such an odd rate of 608K? To me 768K is a sweet upload speed that everyone should offer. | |
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sycocowz
join:2002-06-13
Ottsville, PA | Re: more cable ISPS should offer more than 512K up RCN is 800k upload for most of their cable services (5mbit,7mbit, upcoming 10mbit!)
Not the cheap 768/256 package | |
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join:2004-06-09
Cortland, IL
| ISP'a doing a little more?!?!?! I have 3.0/768 with verizon for 39.99 and I'm pretty happy with upload. The only app that drains upload it BT. On my download, about 80% of sites I download from will max out my connection. The other 20% max out at 2megs. I think the goal is to bring users up to what websites can handle for now. And as for the Canadian Bragger, 50g download per month and you hopw it goes to 100g? HAHHHH! Can't share much porn that way! | |
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@attbi.com
| upstream speeds I video conference into work in the afternoons. Lets me pick up the kids.
I have Comcast UltraLink (yes still) which WAS 4 down and 768 up. (about 630 reallife) for a year UNTIL a year ago when Comcast upped the downstream rate for everybody else they actually CUT my upstream in half but also cut my bill in half.
GIVE ME THE ADDED BANDWIDTH ANY DAY
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5-10Mbps, the Sweet Spot
GAY?
Re: 2x2Mbps