  Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs: | Typical AT&T mindset - Dinosaurs Running headstrong into extinction. | |
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| Re: Typical AT&T mindset - Dinosaurs said by Doctor Olds : Running headstrong into extinction.
I hope so.
Once they eliminated customer service after the sale as part of the equation, they lost me as a customer for ANY AT&T-branded product or service. | |
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| said by Doctor Olds : Running headstrong into extinction.
I was thinking the same thing... ATT is systematically digging their own grave by taking on failed venture after failed venture while cutting its real revenue sources.
Before you know it, they'll be teaching kids in business "schools" how not to run a busines using the following examples:
1. Enron 2. Tyco 3. Global Crossing 4. ATT -- If there's one thing that I've learned, its that people don't want the real truth, only THEIR truth... | |
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| Re: Typical AT&T mindset - Dinosaurs said by bmn : I was thinking the same thing... ATT is systematically digging their own grave by taking on failed venture after failed venture while cutting its real revenue sources.
AT&T's problem isn't so much failed forays into new business (although I do agree AT&T has been rather schizophrenic lately with getting into and out of cable -- which could have saved them in the residential space, spinning off AT&T Wireless, etc.) nearly as much as corporate bloat. That bloat has resulted in AT&T being very uncompetitive on price thus losing residential and small business customers to the innumerable Qwest/Global Crossing/WilTel resellers, VoIP, wireless, and the Bell teens' LD plans (at least one of which partly resells AT&T) left and right; about all AT&T has left are somewhat captive customers -- large corporate customers that have needs that only the Big Three carriers (AT&T, MCI, and Sprint) can possibly handle, and its share of the FTS2000 Federal telecom contracts.
I think that AT&T may have been better served by licensing the brand name for consumer services to someone else (like AT&T did with telephone equipment -- "AT&T" phones are actually Vtech phones nowadays) instead of just getting out of the market entirely except for CallVantage (which is IMO a joke.)
-SC -- "it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend
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| Re: Typical AT&T mindset - Dinosaurs You mention the big three Forbes super rankings for 2003 Verizon #8 and the first Telecom company SBC was #13 Bellsouth #37 AT&T #47 Sprint #83 quest #202. So much for the so called big three. MCI Worldcom or who ever they will be when they commit their next big fraud ?? | |
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  copperdoctor Premium join:2003-12-08 Palatine, IL | Smoke and mirrors Anyone think this might just be a smoke signal to get regulators attention? | |
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2 edits | Re: Smoke and mirrors Doubt it since the company made it's biggest mistake by making Armstrong their former CEO.
Since then, they have made nothing but bad business decisions which they are now trying to correct.
With out a good management team to realize their mistakes and start making the right decisions they will end up like many other telecoms .... a part of history.
Besides, they have spent so much time and energy on other areas of business such as cable, wireless and residential LD .... they have allowed their competitors to undermine their core business.
Plus with VoIP gaining in popularity, traditional LD services will be on the path to extinction over the next few years. | |
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| said by copperdoctor : Anyone think this might just be a smoke signal to get regulators attention?
I think it is obvious that the regulators (i.e. the FCC) aren't listening. -- If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture | |
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join:2001-03-22 Madison, NJ | AT&T name recognition I know so many people who still rely upon the brand AT&T. For them to exit this market, more or less, is a huge waste of a brandname. They should sell the name to another company which can manage a real consumer business on a lower cost basis. | |
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| Re: If you are wondering said by Transmaster : I h have mentioned Qwest dumped all of the old Bell System exec's well guess where they all went....you quessed it, AT&T:)
Except for Dick Notebart of course. -- If I don't see you in the future, I'll see you in the pasture | |
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join:2001-10-04 Wayne, PA 1 edit | Just Like the US Government Everything ATT touches has turned to poop.
As the aging old giant lumbers off into the sunset we wave goodbye. | |
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| said by BosstonesOwn : They still own a huge chunk of backbone here in the us. If I was them I would offer dsl via the purchased assets and off voip.
I believe as part of selling ATT broadband they aren't allowed to supply dsl. | |
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| said by deadmeat : I believe as part of selling ATT broadband they aren't allowed to supply dsl.
I believe that proviso only applies in markets where they or Comcast had cable operations -- I don't think AT&T has ever been barred from areas like NYC, New Orleans, etc. where AT&T BB and Comcast have no presence.
That said, the recent changes in the UNE-P rules wouldn't make doing DSL feasible. What's surprising is AT&T deciding to quit selling not only residential local (which *is* taking a hit because of the UNE-P mess), but residential LD as well, which UNE-P rules don't even touch -- I guess AT&T finally realized they will never be able to compete on price with the many Qwest/Global Crossing/WilTel resellers because of their corporate bloat, and just threw in the towel. I personally believe AT&T's fatal mistake with respect to residential services was getting out of the cable business -- yeah, AT&T Broadband had severe problems in some markets, like Atlanta, but owning your own network is almost always a Good Thing.
-SC -- "it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend
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| A Duplictous ploy- a little too transparent though It looks to me like they are trying to elicit regulatory sympathy. Don't forget this is not the same company it once was, new leadership. Leadership from Worldcom, Quest, IBM, and Concert. All failed companies......
Running it to the ground seems to be the other goal. Todays announcement will further depreciate the stock price, thus accomplishing David Dormans goal: selling the company.
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| What do they do now? What does AT&T do nowadays? They exit so many market segments, it seems to be what they're best at. Perhaps they could contract their services out to other dinosaurs such as HP and SCO. -- Jimmysquid.com - I take pictures. | |
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  viperpa33s Why Me? Premium join:2002-12-20 Bradenton, FL | They deserved what's coming Due to AT&T's blunders my brother just found out today he is out of a job. Thanks to Michael Armstrong, he took a great company down to a blundering mess. Though the current CEO got his pay raise while most of everyone else is losing there job. | |
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join:2000-11-20 Mobile, AL | Re: They deserved what's coming No more cable. No more wireless. No more long distance. What exactly does AT&T offer? | |
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3 edits | Old vs New Dear American Telephone and Telegraph. I'm so sorry that you've decided to abandon the residential market for your telephone service. For the past 150 years, you've set the benchmark for what phone service was all about. You were the World's benchmark for local and long distance service in reliability. In fact, AT&T is what brought down the "Pony Express", what made the U.S. Rail system run on time, what made the "United" in the Unites States. And now...you're bail'in because you didn't see the future, didn't see the internet revolution, but decided to live in the past-hoping your reputation will carry you on... well..looks like you f@#$-up. ...and I will always wonder why..for a company that USED to be in the forefront, could end up being SO far behind.. Damn..you were SO good... WTF happened? Signed: Former AT&T Customer. now a Verizon Wireless customer
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| Re: The Bell System reborn? They had looked into merging with BellSouth many years ago after the first Telecom Act of 1996 was passed but the FCC/FTC quickly gave them a heads up and so it didn't happen. Now, though, it's possible. Since BellSouth is the only RBOC left that didn't merge with another company it might be a good fit.
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