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| Re: a bit funny Let the bastards develop their own network then. We owe them absolutely nothing. Besides making the cheap ass electronic parts that can be found in basically every computer, router, etc., Asia has contributed basically nothing to networking technology. Why do all these countries feel as if the U.S.A. owes them something? They're already stealing most of our jobs. | |
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| Re: a bit funny Not only Asia, in Europe, there are less IP´s than inhabitants. If EEUU want to have a standalone network, ok. I think it would be very good news if we heard the rest of the world started with IPv6, and EEUU continue with IPv4... we could use your network, but you wont be able to enter in ours.
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@Red-217-126-224.pool | EEUU´s laws are only applicable in the EEUU territory. So your nerwork is yours in your territory, beyond USA´s frontiers, the network is from the country that owns it. | |
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| Re: a bit funny said by EuroPride: EEUU´s laws are only applicable in the EEUU territory.
Wrong.
EU has failed to approve of US companies merging on antitrust grounds.
See GE and Honeywell. -- Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism. | |
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  warlock56 Premium join:2002-07-31 Arlington, TX | It's about time People can sit around and jabber about how good/bad it is, but we won't know anything until someone gets moving on this. -- 1. Peace through superior firepower 2. Ron Paul for 2008 President | |
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| What a pain in the butt... As if it's not already tough enough to remember different sets of 4 octets. Now you need to know if you're dealing with 4 or 6!
I'll just have to buckle down and pretend it's like being able to use an 8th symbol on the stargate to go far far away.    | |
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| Re: What a pain in the butt... they're taking their times with this: but they're just being sure that there are no snags in this process.
I would've prefer a timetable approach that the Pentagon has done - say make the transition be completed sometimes in 2014.
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  antiphishing Phishing Scam Terminator Premium join:2004-06-09 Wilkes Barre, PA
| ICANN Starts IPv6 Ball Rolling _____________________________________________________ increase capacity some "25,000 trillion trillion times ________________________________________________________
Which allows more computers on the internet and even more spam to circulate the globe. -- »www.antihotmail.com spammers_are_scumbags@antihotmail.com | |
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 |   linicx Caveat Emptor Premium join:2002-12-03 United State | Re: ICANN Starts IPv6 Ball Rolling What makes anyone think IPv6 will stop or otherwise curtail spam? Get rid of VBS, HTML messages and limit the size. The rest will take care of itself. | |
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1 edit | Yea more zombies to control.  I am not going to be happy when my fridge get a virus and defrost a freezer full of food. It is about time they start this. I need an Ip address for my Pen so it can wirrelessly tell my pocket-PC phone it has 25% ink left. -- Keep America safe Bush 2004 »www.georgewbush.com/KerryMediaCenter/ | |
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| Re: ICANN Starts IPv6 Ball Rolling __________________________________________________________
This is of course assuming IPv4 is phased out and we all are on IPv6
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I don't think IPv4 will ever be phased out because it's to well integrated across the globe. We dug a huge hole with IPv4 and now must fix the security holes with it first before we move on to IPv6. -- »www.antihotmail.com spammers_are_scumbags@antihotmail.com | |
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| Re: ICANN Starts IPv6 Ball Rolling said by antiphishing : I don't think IPv4 will ever be phased out
Forever is a very long time. IPv4 will not last forever. | |
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| Seems like a simple firmware upgrade would get NAT working again on most SOHOs. The security features of being behind a NAT device will not be tossed aside just to get IPv6 working. -- Keep America safe Bush 2004 »www.georgewbush.com/KerryMediaCenter/ | |
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there is still no place like 127.0.0.. .errrrr
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| Re: Why is China concerned Well having the largest population of any country on earth and now having a very strong economy (my coffee maker was made in china also my george Foreman grill along with a lot of other things) how long do you expect China to remain Socialist?
There are ceo's here that would give up there 1st born to be able to get a foot in the door (to do business in China) -- H O W T R U E : If you want something done, ask a busy person to do it | |
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| Re: Why is China concerned said by Nam Vet : how long do you expect China to remain Socialist?
China has never been socialist. Ever. | |
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join:2001-05-04 Santa Clara, CA | How to get IPv6 popular P2P application like napster/Kazaa/etc should give a boost to IPv6 popularity. Too bad none of those apps work with IPv6 and those RIAA still looking at IPv4. | |
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  Maxo Your tax dollars at work. Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL clubs: | trillion trillion? How about a real number, most of us are no longer in elementary school. Just a crappy rant. | |
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  sivran Long Live The Suite Premium join:2003-09-15 Arlington, TX clubs:
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| Maybe this is silly, but... Why should NAT go away? Why should IPv4 completely go away?
For home users, SOHO, and even corporations, even classful IPv4 routing should provide more than enough addresses for even the largest of organizations.
IPv6 should really only apply to external, directly connected links. Why can't IPv4--and IPv4 NAT--simply hide behind hybrid routers? Granted, all hosts behind the router will still have to understand IPv6, but at least they won't have to use it (and whether they use it or not wouldn't matter to the global address pool).
Now, if IPv6 turns out to be substantially easier to administrate, then I guess that's a good reason for IPv4 to go away, even in private lans. But I don't think that's the case, and there are so many applications that simply will not understand (and will not be patched to understand) IPv6.
IPv4 might disappear from the internet at large, but I don't think it'll be disappearing from lans any time soon. NAT certainly won't, or shouldn't, even if IPv6 does provide tens of thousands of addresses per square meter of earth. -- TCPA - the ultimate spyware. Kerio 2.1.5 - My favorite firewall  | |
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| How much exactly is 2^128? 3.4028236692093846e+38 or 3.4028236692093846 * 10^38
What is the world population? »www.census.gov/ipc/www/clock.html (Java applet - this page uses a pop-up window to display the numbers) »www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html (non-Java version) right now it is around 6.3816e+9 or 6.3816 * 10^9
If you don't understand scientific notation - click here
I think that is enough to have your own globally-accessible subnet. -- The Intel Prescott. One step closer to 50,000 watts of clear channel power! | |
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| Running out of IPs... Really... We just think we are. How many LARGE IP blocks out there are reserved and going unused? I could name off a dozen companies with class A networks that I wager aren't even being used. Take Halliburton for example, why would a company that blasts holes in the ground for oil need sixteen million IPs anyway? Cable modem users make up a large portion of the internet, yet only have one class A netblock. Are they saying that Ford or Halliburton have as many computers as all of the cable modem users in the US? I doubt it.
You take in to account all of the reserved IPv4 space, and it's easy to see why a single IP costs the little guy an average of $10 extra.
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 |   sivran Long Live The Suite Premium join:2003-09-15 Arlington, TX clubs: | Re: Running out of IPs... Really... If the IP problem could be solved simply by releasing large unused blocks of IP addresses, classless routing would've fixed it long ago.
Obviously, the problem is bigger than that. | |
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| said by Brisk : Take Halliburton for example, why would a company that blasts holes in the ground for oil need sixteen million IPs anyway?
How do you think they figure out where to blast holes in the ground?
Oil companies have been at the forefront of the computing revolution for more than a generation. -- Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism. | |
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| no surprise This is has been coming for a LONG time. We were learning IPv6 in CCNA class 4 years ago. It's what makes a heirarchal, scalable addressing scheme like IP so nice - just make it bigger!
Bring it on....don't forget that fiber to box on the back of the house too. -- Out the 100Base-T, past the firewall, through the router, down the cable bus, over the leased line,off the bridge...nothing but Net. | |
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