 hitman247
join:2004-05-17
Toronto
| VOIP is only for early adopters right now This is probably the main reason I dont get voip. That and the exhorbitant price for what is basically a free service for the provider.
can u imagine the problems with ppl easily forging CIDs? at least with landlines the way they are it requires alot of costly hardware to implement. | |
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1 edit | Re: VOIP is only for early adopters right now quote:
Unlike text spam blockers that scan for particular words, Qovia has algorithms to recognize certain patterns in calls that tend to be associated with recorded sales pitches, the company said.
Yeah sure. There's be no easy ways around THAT. It's not as if the marketers couldn't.... change the patterns of their pitches or anything.
And anything that analyzed more than a second of voice traffic would get in the way. I don't see this working, but I'm willing to learn otherwise...
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P.S. I don't agree with Hitman at all; not getting VoIP because of a non-existent problem?
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY
| Exhorbitant price?!?
Companies save hundreds, if not thousands of dollars a month with VoIP solutions. VoIP is a lot cheaper than paying a measured per minute business rate for local usage and long distance. It may be essentially 'free' to the provider, although I'd argue that, but they pass the savings through for sure.
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| said by hitman247  :
That and the exhorbitant price for what is basically a free service for the provider.
I'm curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion...
We've been looking to implement limited VoIP in several locations where I work and we've found that its front end and recurring costs aren't free. You have to pay for phones that do VoIP, VoIP switches, you need POTS crossconnects and bandwidth. None of those are free.
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| Exhorbitant price? I pay less than 1/2 what I paid Verizon and these providers still have to buy and maintain their equipment and pay lawyers to fight off greedy gov't regulators. If VoIP is exhorbitant what the hell do you consider telco rates? Robbery? | |
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J D McDorce
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join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI | Do Not Call List? Is there some kind of loophole in the National Do Not Call list that exempts VoIP? If not, I would expect VoIP spammers to be subject to the same enforcement and penalties as those placing telemarketing calls to POTS lines. | |
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | Re: Do Not Call List? Yeah, just enforce the Do Not Call list over VOIP. But I think that would only happen if the government got as much regulation of voip as POTS. | |
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| rengaw03
join:2002-09-13
Spokane, WA | A VoIP do-not-call list runs into the same problems as a do-not-spam list, especially if your VoIP phone number is an IP address. | |
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rid0617
join:2003-07-20
Greer, SC | Phone number It would seem to me that as long as you list your VOIP number on the list it too becomes uncallable under the law | |
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wwdubbia
join:2002-06-03
Clinton, NY | Re: Phone number Right, I would assume a phone number is a phone number is a phone number.... doesn't matter what network its on, PSTN or VoIP, long as your number's on the list it shouldn't matter.
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hurleyp
join:2000-06-20
Ottawa, ON | V-Spam? I guess we can start calling VoIP Spam "VAM". Another PITA that will have VoIP phones ringing all the time.  | |
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LordMalak
join:2003-07-02
Brazil
| Well, duuhh... Isn't it like we see today with an industry creating spyware and another one that profits from tools that stop it??
As long as you don't have a company that plays on both sides (I'm sure there are several), I guess that's how things will be.
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| Re: Well, duuhh... Someone has created stuff that will stop something that hasn't even started yet.
Sorry, I'd say their playing both sides...
What comes first, the chicken or the egg? It doesn't matter to farmers because they got both.
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netwire
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join:2001-04-27
Mooresboro, NC | Silly telemarketer.. you called yourself. I've already got this planned.. when a telemarketer calls me, I'm just going to blind-xfer their call back to thier own number. Simple to do, and will keep me from listening to their sales pitch. | |
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join:2003-05-26
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| Re: Silly telemarketer.. you called yourself. It's been around a long time and free, just not as in depth as the now..VoIP.
I'm game, to learn & perhaps be in the front line when spammers try to get dirty. With everything we have learned from spammers  I think that perhaps the dirt might slide down that hill.....Gathering no moss as the spammer, spins endlessly down the slope.
But, really 'Maybe' is mote! Which part of the last two letters, could deter them....IP
Thinking of all that software, just waiting to happen to support the workforce & VoIP.
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jimmoc
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join:2001-12-30
Niagara Falls, NY
|  How?
Unless what they are trying to say is the spammer could use VoIP to broadcast his message to many numbers at once but this would have to include POTS numbers too. If that's the case I guess I could see it otherwise I'm confused somewhere. | |
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| disNdat
join:2002-01-14
Fremont, CA
| Re: How? I suppose it depends on what sort of VoIP service or provider you have as to the substance that your phone number might have.
I have a real 10 digit number that is available through directory listings, that I can 4 digit dial the rest of my co-workers from, and that has e911 service. There is no way to tell that my number is on a VoIP phone or network or for it to be in any way exploited as such.
But I suppose that all VoIP service providers are not the same so your experiance may differ. | |
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VoIP Spam
Seeing FAX SPAM already