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join:2003-06-11 | re:article right!, now, sbc, let's talk my 25/10mb home line now  | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·Cox HSI
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| Re: re:article I think it may actually happen this time, and the reason is simple: Cable has a lucrative TV income supporting it, and is jumping into things like VOIP and providing telephone service. In other words, Cable TV companies are encroaching into the ILEC's business, but they can't encroach into Cable's TV service because they don't have the infrastructure....
Meanwhile, Wireless is also migrating people away from POTS lines and other traditionally Telco supplied services.
In other words, if the Telco's don't get off their butts and get moving, they may find themselves being squeezed out of existance in the future (Assuming they can't convince politicians to force everyone to have mandatory POTS service or something).
There is profit to be made in TV, HDTV, Video-On-Demand services. It's profitable now... so I think the incentive is really there for SBC to finally deliver the "FAT PIPE" that can carry all manner of services to the home.
If SBC has realized this, I think they can do this far faster then people would think. It's always been about the Will... not the way. They haven't really had the will... if they do now... it will happen.
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reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL | If you do this, test it in Evanston, IL please! | |
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Boogeyman
Drive it like you stole it
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join:2002-12-17
Huntsville, AL
·Comcast
| whoopie I think
"Still, you should believe in fiber to the home from your local incumbent only when the LED's from the modem shine brightly on your pale skin. Promises like these have been hitting the wires for decades as the bells work to impress the FCC, and loosen the regulatory noose."
says it perfectly...
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BigCreek
God Is Good.
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join:2002-06-25
Heber Springs, AR | I'd just be glad if I could get ... I'd just be glad if I could get 384/128 DSL.
Or any form of broadband for that matter. I'll start dreaming of fiber in, say, 2050. | |
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| hedyd4u
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join:2003-12-16
Schenectady, NY | Re: I'd just be glad if I could get ... Verizon is testing fttp in Kellar, Texas. | |
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
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join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL | yawn I'll get excited when they can get past 26k dialup in my area. | |
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| ced06
join:2004-03-12
Towanda, PA
| Re: yawn said by cbrigante2  :
I'll get excited when they can get past 26k dialup in my area.
Me too!  | |
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sledboy
join:2004-06-03
Stratford, CT | yeah right I will believe it when I see it  | |
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| bac522
join:2003-08-04
Manchester, NH | Re: yeah right The government should fine a company every time they release a press release that doesn't materialize. Damn, national deficit would be wiped out based on ILEC press releases. | |
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EnzonE
join:2000-03-23
Indiana, PA
·Comcast
| Same here; after the BS Verizon pulled about getting Pennsylvania wired for fiber after getting many tax incentives from the state over the years;tax payers got the major shaft in the end; thank you VZ!
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i5050MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI | YIPEEEEE! <sarcasm> Another Project Pronto!!!! </sarcasm> | |
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JohnM525
join:2000-09-07
Ingleside, IL
|  SBC... yeah right... I say vote with your dollar !
As soon as that new bandwidth is connected, I am switching to a VOIP box connected to all of my phones, and dropping both the DSL and home phone services from SBC. Cost is only $0.02-0.03 a minute anywhere in the US for outbound (free inbound), and no monthly phone bill, taxes, and fees. Plus I get all of the services I pay a for now: caller ID, call waiting, 3-way calling, (Voice-mail $1 mo.),and on 2(CO)lines. I can even get a toll-free number for everyone to call me on, which saves them from long distance calls to me ! Even with paying for an interface box at $100, I am saving myself at least $70 a month !!!
I can help you if your interested in doing this too !
Sincerely,
John Martoccio
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| hedyd4u
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join:2003-12-16
Schenectady, NY | Re: SBC... yeah right... I say vote with your dollar ! All good things will come to an end once the government intervenes. So enjoy it while it lasts.
It is time for a smaller Government. | |
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Octopussy2
Premium
join:2003-03-30
Batavia, IL
| Re: SBC... yeah right... I say vote with your dollar ! I'd like to see SBC quit talking out both sides of their mouth....oh wait, that'll never happen. First the LA Times article and now this gem.
In the Tri-Cities they just keep helping us with stuff like this. They told everyone last year FTTH was was "too hard" and sophisticated for anyone to run a utility with it out here. We didn't need it here...copper was good enough for us...and even now they haven't rolled out those services to all of us in the Tri-Cities!! We should just wait to be served by you SBC? I think not....and not at the exorbitant rates they charge either.
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join:2003-12-23
Beverly Hills, CA
| said by hedyd4u :
All good things will come to an end once the government intervenes. So enjoy it while it lasts.
It is time for a smaller Government.
you r so right, government waste funds on useless things like war in afghanistan and iraq
even thought that some don't agree, they do it anyway | |
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hiatus | What does that rhetoric have to do with that guy dropping SBC?...
Oh wait, nothing. | |
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ooluser
@optonline.net
| Copper DSL/Dialup = OLD - Fiber = NEW Stop whining about how you can't get DSL or your speeds suck. DSL is an expensive service to roll out, and many things effect the speed you'll get. With FTTP/FTTH there will be NO issues with distance, and it'll be able to provide top speed to everyone, no matter where they live if they have access to the fiber network. Current copper technology was built for telegraphs, than we used it for phones, now we use it for data. It's pritty amazing how much we milked out of the old technology.... But now is the time to upgrade to fiber, where a little LED can send you top speeds, not electricity which is effected by distance.
So stop complaining about your current issues, it's too expensive to fix it. Why invest into old technology when new technology which is almost unlimited in speed could be built and last another century.
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imrf
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
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June 22nd, @01:48PM
| Not everyone will be getting FTTH. From the article, quote:
SBC said its planned network would consist of fiber connections directly to newly built homes or businesses as well as "fiber to the neighborhood," where copper wires are used for the last several hundred feet but still deliver enough network speeds for video service.
So it looks as if they are only going to put FTTH in the brand new areas just going up now, and just placing more RDSLAMs in already populated areas and maybe bumping the speeds up for them a little bit more, but probably not much. | |
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dogma
Premium
join:2002-08-15
Marina Del Rey, CA
| Another SBC/PacBell Crock of... Anyone remember this?:
PacBell's Information Highway
"In November 1993, Pacific Bell announced a capital investment plan totaling $16 billion over the next seven years to upgrade core network infrastructure and to begin building California's 'Communications Superhighway.' This will be an integrated telecommunications, information and entertainment network providing advanced voice, data and video services. Using a combination of fiber optics and coaxial cable, Pacific Bell expects to provide [FTTH] broadband services to more than 1.5 million homes by the end of 1996, 5 million homes by the end of the decade."
Turned out to be an Information Highway to Nowhere. PacBell/SBC didn't spend a damn dime then, and only a sucker would believe they plan to provide anything new now. | |
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thongsai
join:2002-07-04
Santa Rosa, CA | Re: Another SBC/PacBell Crock of... dsl is distance limited.. fiber is not.. so if they do deploy it.. a big if, almost every1 can get it.
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| bmn
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join:2001-03-15
hiatus
 ·Packet8
·Cox HSI
| Yeah, I remember that... Its one of the reasons you can't trust the Bells to do anything without the boot of regulation kicking them along...
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ATTek
Got Sand?
join:2000-12-13
Pinon Hills, CA
| Hmmm...might want to check your facts on that one. I have worked in neighborhoods that had been wired with PB broadband and some that actually worked for a short time. According to the brass,(I admit I don't know for sure) regulation issues and spats with some of the municipalities killed that project before it ever really got going.
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Jeepster93
Trail Ready
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join:2000-10-20
Springfield, MO | Um Yea Laughable at best. | |
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| Jdawg2003
join:2003-11-18
Mesquite, TX | Re: Um Yea Well guys, I think that SBC is actually going to try and deliver on the fiber optic promise. Today I actually saw the SBC guys rolling out the fiber optic cable in my neighborhood. IT is stretched across the street as we speak | |
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coxunhappy
join:2002-02-26
Glastonbury, CT
| SBC just do it! I think the real deal here is the ability to get digital television over it. That would put them in a whole new market, certainly a reason to spend for it. If they can get the same deal cable has with total control of the pipe - I'd see it happening. If regulators call it phone and order access to everyone - different story...
Just like all that copper laid 50 years ago pays off on every call today, fiber laid now will be generating them income 50 years from now. | |
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Master_O_Trunks
@pacbell.n
| SBC ain't so bad SBC has a pretty good semmi new package, I upgraded my SBC ADSL from 1.5mbit DL / 256kbps UL to 3.mbit DL / 386kbps UL. And I'm able to get 300kb/sec DL / 43kb/sec UL steady, any time of the day. And i live in South Central LA, and you guys call this place the ghetto, where we have much better connections than most of you guys :P | |
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swede
@013-69-73746f13.cust
| Fibre rules! Fibre rules! I live in Sweden and I have 10 Mbit/s both ways for only about $45 a month. And yes, actual speed is that good. My ISP also provides 100 Mbit/s for just under $80 a month, but so far I'm quite happy with 10 as the faster option is only flat rate up to 300GB/month.
Fibre rules big time & everyone should have it!  | |
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runnergurl
@pacbell.n | YAHOO SBC liars from hell just as easy as that...
liars that will do anything and say anything to keep your business.
The most unprofessional and deceitful group I have ever dealt with. Customer service is putrid and trust me - I don't ask for much | |
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Indiana Joe
@insightBB.com
| Re: YAHOO SBC liars from hell Oh hell yeah.
After initially getting excited reading about how Verizon is ACTUALLY installing broad-broadband services to their customer at very reasonable rates - I was immediately brought crashing back to earth when I realized I would have to rely on SBC to supply this same infrastructure because Verizon has no presence in this Southern Indiana market. With SBC on the case, perhaps my great-great grandchildren will see fiber-optic. Meanwhile the rest of the world will be transmitting media through their minds.
If you live in an area where the market is dominated by a Baby Bell because of a lack of competition, (Southern Indiana) be prepared to wait for new technologies sometime shortly after the last river-bank dwellers of the Congo get it. | |
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