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join:2002-01-20
Monroe, WA
| Companies like to Whine What happened to competition? Why can't the companies just bring out their own services that compete with it rather than whine about it? Granted, not needing to make a profit gives Muni's a distinct advantage, hopefully something can be done that isn't another company just whining alot, it gets old fast. | |
|  | Nightwchtr
join:2001-09-10
Falls Church, VA | Re: Companies like to Whine Its kinda of sad they have to resort to lies and mislead people vs comeing out with a good product at a good price. | |
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AFGuy04
@af.mil
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drjim 
| Because it's easier to whine than to compete, and costs less. It's a lot easier to run smear campaigns than to actually upgrade networks and offer quality service(s). | |
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digiblur
Got Sipura?
Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana
| Scared Cox is scared because they don't offer Cox HSI in Lafayette, they only have Cox-Internet... poking along at a big 1000/128 , that's if you are lucky. I've seen more like 800-950/60-90 at friends in Lafayette.
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Smokey
I'm so much cooler offline
Premium
join:2003-05-20
Va Beach
clubs: | Re: Scared here we go again  | |
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Jarka
@coxinet.net |  Re: Scared
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Jarka
@coxinet.net | and i know people here that are getting 9 to 9.5 downstream. | |
| | blah1
join:2002-03-04
Lake Charles, LA | Yep Same as here in Lake Charles. | |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
Premium
join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
clubs:
| Re: Scared If we are talking about Lafayette, Louisiana, Cox offers high speed internet. You have to pay a fortune for it, but they do, because I am here in Lake Charles (1 hour from Laf, LA) and I get 3 megs down, 256 k up. I pay a fortune for it, unfortunately. They have a new plan where you get 3 megs down, and 1 meg up, for 500 and something bucks, but that is highway robbery. | |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
Premium
join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
clubs:
| Also remember that Cox has traffic coming from smaller cities in the area, piped through Lafayette. Everyone is experiencing lag on their internet traffic, when they could, for Lake Charles, for instance, route an additional circuit through Texas, but I believe the Cox cell for this area has peering agreements with AT&T, and apparently nobody at Cox has heard, that it is better to have peering agreements with multiple providers, instead of just one company. | |
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deadzonedgg
@cox-internet.co
| Color me surprised.... NOT This neither surprises me nor makes me feel positive about any future efforts of COX to give us better services at a more competitive rate.
We are pretty much behind the curve when compared to the rest of the country, except of course, for your most rural of locations. It makes me pissed off, frustrated, and mostly just unsure of what I can do, if anything at all, to make a differance from an informed standpoint, about these types of things.
Ridiculous. | |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
 ·DSL EXTREME
| Uh...right....sure... Cox executives have tried to scare area residents away from the idea, suggesting the municipal utility would "monitor people's private phone, Internet or television viewing".
Oh, so in other words, the municipality would be just like the cable company. | |
| | moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Uh...right....sure... said by JakCrow :
Cox executives have tried to scare area residents away from the idea, suggesting the municipal utility would "monitor people's private phone, Internet or television viewing".
Oh, so in other words, the municipality would be just like the cable company.
Finally, someone else who sees the hypocrisy of Cox. Not only does Cox already monitor what people watch, they sell it for extra profit.
Pot meet kettle. | |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
·DSL EXTREME
| Re: Uh...right....sure... One of the biggest deals when cable internet started was the fact that the cablecos and @home were trying to pipe customer traffic thru proxies they could monitor. The went as far as to hard code it into their Windows "starter packages", and people couldn't turn the proxy setting off without editing their registries. When they realized people weren't using the proxies, they set up proxy services on their name servers, so they could at least capture some of the DNS queries to determine peoples usage again. | |
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DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
clubs: | Re: cox speeds seeing good speeds in new orleans usually 2500 down and about 258 up | |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
Premium
join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
clubs:
| I believe Cox is broken up into different groups across the state, with two groups representing Cox. You have those users who are on the *cox-internet.com portion of their network, and then those users on cox.com. I brought this up in discussing high speed internet rates with them, and I was told that the rates you would get around New Orleans for the speeds I am getting, would vary from the rates I pay here. Basically, from what I could understand, it varies based on where you are. Why it does, I do not know. Maybe it has something to do with their return on investment in different areas. For the answer, you would have to ask a Cox exec to be sure. Just be lucky you do not live in Westlake, cause I hear the communicom speeds SUCK. If you live in Westlake or Moss Bluff, you cannot get Cox. So Lake Charles users should really not complain so much. | |
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louisiana
@65.247.x.x
| Re: cox speeds Lafayette and Western Louisiana systems are still under the protection and ways of the old Tyler based TCA cable. COX bought them and are now dealing with the transition(mess)... I am sure you will see the new upgrades to the same speeds as in New Orleans soon. Baton Rouge is a different group under the old TCI rules while New Orleans is the tried and true COX. Believe me that Tyler has all to do with their current issues, and those from the past. | |
| BayouTech
join:2004-03-25
Lafayette, LA
| Go for it LUS I think the competition will do the area good. Bell has had to deal with it(over thier own lines at that) and have stayed reasonable to compete. Cox has had no real competition and naturally are the ones crying the loudest. I live too far out of Lafayette to be directly affected, but maybee with some competition, it will raise the bar in the area for bandwidth. Maybee it might even sweeten the deal to bring buisness to Lafayette. | |
| | akjohnson
join:2001-03-04
College Station, TX
| Re: Go for it LUS Maybe if this happens enough it will convince Cox to finally upgrade all of their 1024/128 areas. I've heard the lamest excuses from them for years as to why they can't upgrade. Usually, it's something along the lines of "we bought the cable system in your area from another provider so we're stuck with it." Well guess what, it's been four years since then and they still can't do anything about it!?!? A company as large as Cox should at least be able to deliver a consistent product line across all of their markets, ESPECIALLY when they are charging people in the cox-express areas the exact same price as other people pay yet get 3x the speed. Hopefully this will teach them a thing or two about customer relations and how a little friendly competition can be their worst nightmare if they've been short-changing people. | |
| | | DAldredge
join:2003-11-11
Gladewater, TX | Re: PIRATES in DENIAL !!! I have to get basic cable for 16.30 per month to have cox-internet.com. They refuse to sell it with out basic cable attached. | |
| hwstar0
join:2003-11-29
La Mesa, CA | If this goes through, Cox can pull out If they don't like it, they can pull out and monopolize elsewhere. | |
| ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA | Would it be easier to just threaten people? I mean, COx's current reactions to muni-initiatives on the consumer front ain't that far from just threatening those very consumers with violence. Had Cox the balls I'd had respect for them had they simply shot dead (using bullets) local officials. | |
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RichWargo
@rr.com
| That's what you get for dealing with a large corp. That's what happens when you deal with a large corporation. Where my parents live, in upstate NY, has been served for over 100 years by a private telco (www.midtel.com). The owners are part of the community, live there, I went to school with their children, etc. MidTel has always prided themselves on quality product, quality service, fair pricing. Midtel also provides cable TV and broadband AND DSL. My parents, because they live in the village, can have either cable broadband or DSL, pricing is much less than what I pay for RoadRunner with equivalent speeds. So it's not just municipal public service versus private business; it's more large impersonal corporation versus a community service, whether private or public. | |
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