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No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs: | Hey hey.... Now that cannot be so bad now can it??
Let me know and we can qualify...
and see where you fit at.. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: Hey hey.... Actually for the $26.95 and $29.95 it's a $1.84. The article is wrong. The FUSF is same across all regions what the fee depends on is your pricing package. The $5.83 is for the higher packages and which ones I am not even sure. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | The FUSF has nothing to do with the price break.
FUSF started Feb. 1st of 04 on any new orders and any packages. I think SBC just wants the lowest price for DSL. | |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
| Re: Hey hey.... quote:
The FUSF has nothing to do with the price break.
Nonsense. Price is lowered. Then it's raised. Then the FUSF, which is just a price hike in sheep's clothing is introduced, and then the price is lowered again......
Did I miss something in that timeline? | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: Hey hey.... Yeah because I believe it was $26.95 then FUSF then $29.95 and now back to $26.95. | |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | Re: Hey hey.... They should just charge $28.50, ditch the FUSF, and stop confusing the children.  | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: Hey hey.... That's to easy though;) | |
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bistro777
Donuts-Is There Anything They Can't Do?
Premium
join:2002-02-07
Englewood, CO
| Yeah, really...just a horse of a different color. They could charge $19.95/mo. and then add-on charges like "DSLAM Depreciation Designator" and "Provisioning Percolation Procedure" and "Customer Conundrum Charge" and "Router Reduction Recoupment" . . . to make the customer's actual cost whatever they wanted regardless of the advertised base price...
I have nothing to say, and I am saying it. - - JOhn Cage | |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting
| Re: Hey hey.... According to the Bell groupies, consultants, and employees I read on here, users shouldn't care about totally fabricated fees.....
You shush yourself and pay that "copper collaberation and asset recovery" fee that isn't actually a fee...and you like it!
Talking about it means the terrorists win. | |
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bistro777
Donuts-Is There Anything They Can't Do?
Premium
join:2002-02-07
Englewood, CO | Re: Hey hey.... Dang...guess I gotta stop reading the fine print on my bills...
I'd introduce mself, but I already know who I am. | |
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join:2002-03-06
Houston, TX | i love it...
the usary charges can add up ad finitum...
well said! | |
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA | What was the upstream on this package? Thanks. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: What was the upstream on this package? Currently if you are CO based it's 256 up. RT based customers are at 128k w/sync of 160. RT customers are supposed to be getting bumped to 256 soon. | |
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
| Re: What was the upstream on this package? said by gdm  :
Currently if you are CO based it's 256 up. RT based customers are at 128k w/sync of 160. RT customers are supposed to be getting bumped to 256 soon.
Thanks gdm -- on the ball as always.
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: What was the upstream on this package? No idea....could be next month or a couple after that. | |
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swilliams
join:1999-09-07
Mount Prospect, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Re: What was the upstream on this package? said by gdm :
No idea....could be next month or a couple after that.
Roger. Thanks | |
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join:2003-01-14
Riverside, CA | It all depends on how far the person is from the CO. I am currently 7600ft from the CO, with this package and receive a constant 211Kbps according to the speed tests found through this site. | |
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johnny_t
Premium
join:2004-03-21
Palo Alto, CA
4 edits | thats a good deal 25-30 Bucks for 1500 | |
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IronChefMoto
Premium
join:2001-02-08
Alpharetta, GA
| Y'all quit yer bitchin'! I don't want to hear anyone in hear complaining about spending less than $35/month for DSL for the entire length of a 12-month contract! 
I'm an Earthlink DSL user here is with trying to re-negotiate those very same low SBC prices every 3-6 months in Atlanta, GA. You have to threaten to cancel service and go to BellSouth before they'll consider a price match. BellSouth doesn't offer any better in this area.
If you can get SBC DSL at this price, bite the USF bullet and enjoy, because it could be worse. 
IronChefMorimoto
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bassthumpa
Premium
join:2000-12-26
Austin, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Re: Y'all quit yer bitchin'! No kidding man. Some people around here would find something to complain about even if they got it for FREE.
You guys are getting broadband for under $30. STFU or go pay more somewhere else and whine about that instead.
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KSUJace
Golden Flash
join:2001-12-01
Chicago, IL | Re: Y'all quit yer bitchin'! Anyone in Chicago have this that can tell me how much the actual taxes are?? | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Re: Y'all quit yer bitchin'! Out here in the West Cook burbs I have no other taxes on the DSL portion, which is $47.47 total. The line it's piggybacked onto gets nicked pretty hard by the feds (3%), state (7%) and village (4%) but that's only levied against POTS charges. | |
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bassthumpa
Premium
join:2000-12-26
Austin, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
| Re: Y'all quit yer bitchin'! said by morbo :
wow. i've never met someone that will defend hidden fees... until now. you're a good consumer!
First of all, WTF is "hidden" about it? Its right there on the bill. Second... WTF is so bad about DSL under $30?
Yes, we are good consumers. And you are a good whiner.
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Where is it "hidden"? It's right there on the website and all the promo materials.
And I'm not defending anything. I'm just tired of the same old tired arguments used over and over in an attempt to generate "heat" on this site. | |
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AmeritecTech
Change we can believe in, 1922
Premium
join:2002-09-06
Houston, TX
| Prolly Defending Themselves Against RoadrunnerAlso Roadrunner has been running ads saying that they sell you speeds that are "twice as fast as SBC's Standard Package". Of course, the one priced similarly with Roadrunner was the DELUXE package, which is the same speed, and sometimes faster. The STANDARD package is like 15 bucks cheaper than cable. I'm sure this peeved the Roadrunner execs, so that's probably part of the reason for the name change. Roadrunner won't sound as cool saying "twice as fast as SBC's Express Package".
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rwong48
join:2002-11-10
San Jose, CA
clubs: | only if.. only if.. it was available in my area.  | |
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alwaysanon
@mdsnwi.ameritech | Re: only if.. Hmmmm.... 29.95 is what I've been paying for 15 months now (plus the additional bogus fee) and I'm still at 768. Where is this 1.5 meg? | |
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bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL
| give me a break.. said by RadioDoc:
Oh god no, don't say that! The BBR Pricing Police will be up you ass in a microsecond.
Just for the record, here in sillynoise I've got 6016/608 for $47.47 ($44.99 + $2.48 Executive Lunch Slush Fund) via SBC. Ya know what? That's just fine with me.
The editorial staff here has run out of things to bitch about service-wise so they are obsessed with FUSF. They have yet to spot that elusive $5.43 animal in the wild, though, but that don't stop the rabble rousing drums from beatin'.
I swear you people in the midwest are the most fucking cry babies over because you have to paying a whopping $30 for your 1.5 line. If someone was offering to you something FREE you would look for a complaint to put on it. Hey, I got and idea.. why dont we trade bells? You can have HellSouth and we can have SBC? Sounds good 2 me.:D As long as we've got BellSouth.. we'll be left behind. GO TO HELL HELLSOUTH! | |
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL |  Most Improved Regional bell
Now that SBC is offering 6000/608 line for $45 it's pretty hard for Covad to compete.
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OnTheNet
Premium
join:2004-04-13
Broadview Heights, OH
|  FUSF FYI
The contribution factor for the second quarter 2004 is 0.087 or 8.7%
»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···21A1.pdf
We also emphasize that carriers may not mark up federal universal service line-item amounts above the contribution factor.15 Thus, carriers may not, during the second quarter of 2004, recover through a federal universal service line item an amount that exceeds the interstate
telecommunications charges on a customer’s bill times 8.7%.
It's not a made up fee, it is a real cost carriers pay. And no, it's not acceptable accounting to just include it in the price. | |
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ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA | That's like half of what Bellsouth charges! I guess Bellsouth feels the need to be either greedy (some good staying-on monies going around in their executive branch?), or they are just being taken for a ride from their vendors. | |
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@chcgil.ameritech | Re: That's like half of what Bellsouth charges! I love SBC. $100 (all taxes, fees included) for DSL, land line, 2 cellular lines a month. How low can you go? | |
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