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Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Uhhh.... Get real! | |
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join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN | Re: Uhhh.... Stupid companies need to get sued... | |
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oldTDNickell
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join:2000-12-19
Federal Way, WA | Thats funny huh.:D:D:D
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FLECOM
Bay Networks Freak
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join:2003-03-03
Miami, FL | Re: Uhhh.... haha
thats just like bellsouth... sue a company for selling a "false" service that they themselves sell
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SuperJudge
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join:2002-11-14
Albany, GA
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| Re: Uhhh.... Weird, I don't know if anybody has witnessed this themselves, but my wife, before we got maddied, had the accelerator installed, and in the middle of the night, you could hear the computer "talking" I never caught what it said, but it was beyond creepy.
She heard it, and her little brother heard it as well. It started the night she installed it, and we never heard it again after I uninstalled it.
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join:2004-01-20
Lawrenceville, GA
| Bellsouth it not really doing false advertising here. Joi is making claims that you get DSL speed on dial-up which is patently false.
Bellsouth is making a claim that you surf (as in surf the web) 5x faster than standard dial-up with use of their Accelerator technology. This is not necessarily false because 'Accelerator' is really just a caching system similar to the one that NetZero uses to speed up web browsing. | |
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
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join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| Re: Uhhh.... said by Queasy  :
Bellsouth is making a claim that you surf (as in surf the web) 5x faster ...
Wouldn't that be considered surfing your cache? 
IMO, both companies are stretching the truth just a tad.
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SuperJudge
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join:2002-11-14
Albany, GA
clubs: | Re: Uhhh.... you surf proxy cached images 5x faster than you would normally surf web images.
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| This is Great Misleading advertising needs to be stopped, plain and simple. I used to use Joi Internet back in my Field Technician days and needed a reliable cheap dialup to test stuff with, but those days have been numbered.
You can not claim dsl speeds over dialup, there is no possible way that this will ever happen. I remember seeing the billboard on 285 for Joi Internet, and them pushing "DSL Speeds at Dialup Price". Now tell me how misleading that is? If I wasn't smart enough I would jump on that deal in a heart beat.
I stand behind bellsouth on this issue.
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DsXsD
I'M A Member
join:2002-08-28
San Gabriel, CA
| said by technick :
Misleading advertising needs to be stopped, plain and simple. ..............................................................................
I stand behind bellsouth on this issue.
DELL is a prime example =P
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JohnQPublic
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join:2002-03-22
Xanadu
|  How ironic
FWIW, I'm referring to BellSouth's padding the bill with "recovery" charges, yet not including them in the advertised price.
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jdir
join:2001-05-04
Santa Clara, CA | All Bell South has to do BellSouth does not need to file a lawsuit. They should just do a time comparison of MP3 file download between DSL and dial-up. Or show download time between DSL and dialup. | |
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA | Re: All Bell South has to do I want to believe that bellsouth is out to get joi internet to stop misleading consumers | |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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| Re: All Bell South has to do MOre than likely because of the false advertising and the fact they are directly using Bellsouth's name in the ad.
I really cannot say that I blame them for this law suit. I have always been against the false advertising by companies like Joi and AOL that say dialup can be faster than DSL. Just look at AOL's new ads. | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Re: All Bell South has to do At least AOL is wise enough to only compare it to other dial-up providers not using acceleration and not a broadband provider.... | |
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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yock
TFTC
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join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH
| said by Karl Bode :
At least AOL is wise enough to only compare it to other dial-up providers not using acceleration and not a broadband provider....
NetZero has been doing the same with their "High Speed" Dialup product. | |
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T_Hoffman
join:2002-11-10
Clovis, CA
| Re: All Bell South has to do said by yock :
said by Karl Bode :
At least AOL is wise enough to only compare it to other dial-up providers not using acceleration and not a broadband provider....
NetZero has been doing the same with their "High Speed" Dialup product.
but does netzero call out a certain company and use speed comparisons to a certain company? different ball game when you say why get bellsouth dsl when our dialup is just as fast for 9 bucks a month.. bellsouth downloads a mp3 at 2min 15secs our high speed dial up is 5 min and 15 secs, which is only 2 min slower then bell south.
go bellsouth !! get these imposters! | |
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JIGA
Its A Bird, Its A Plane, Its..
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join:2002-02-02
Azle, TX
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| Dial up acceleration, blah! I have been stuck on 56k for 4 years now since I moved. Finally getting Charter cable this next Friday.
I have tried all sorts of dial-up providers. At one point I even tried Joi Internet. I normally manually make my dialup connections, never use the software. For Joi I just had to try out the "accelerated internet".
All they are using is a caching server and compression on images, just like the article states. When browsing forums you constantly had to ctrl-F5 to get a refresh. Downloads/uploads were still the same speeds, same shitty latency in gaming.
I didn't fall for their scheme, I mearly wanted to see what the acceleration was about. Once you have brought up a page, that page is loaded a slight bit faster the second time you visit it, due to it being cached, but as soon as you ctrl-F5 it, it's back to the slow loads.
All these commercials that come on showing their accelerated dialup access just makes me sick, and the people they interview.... I pray these people are paid to say good things about them. It's either that or they are completely computer illiterate.
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gnubeest
Gnu
join:2001-10-28
Nashville, TN
| The problem I have is ... ... that these ISPs won't point out that this is all a software solution, and that it has nothing to do with any remarkable powers the dial-up ISP has suddenly procured. You're not going to get much more out of a dial-up than your modem's built-in v.90 compression, and anyone can go out and get one of the many browser cache/pre-fetch applications available, use it with their existing ISP, and get the same effect.
Aside from that, I don't have a problem with advertising browsing speed enhancements over standard dial-up, although Joi seems to be an exception when they try to compare themselves to DSL. Earthlink has been careful to note in their television ads that their service doesn't help the speed of files, attachments, video, etc. | |
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pcscdma
Chocobo Chocobo Random Battle
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join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA
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| Re: The problem I have is ... said by gnubeest :
You're not going to get much more out of a dial-up than your modem's built-in v.90 compression
Actually v.90 usually uses v.42bis for compression
v.92 can have the ability to use v.44 compression, along with PCM upstream which increases the maximum raw upload from 33.6k to 48k.
It also has a modified handshake sequence and enhanced call-waiting abilities.
v.44 is a big improvement over the older v.42bis
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Soud
join:2000-10-15
Atlanta, GA
| I live here... I live in Atlanta...AND OMG!!! Every way i look, there is a Joi billboard saying how you could get dsl speeds for only $6.99. I'm not as annoyed by the lies as much as i am annoyed with the sheer number of signs. Jesus!! Where are they getting all this advertizing funds? | |
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Augustus III
If Only Rome Could See Us Now....
join:2001-01-25
Gainesville, GA
| get them "Within few days you will notice dramatic improvement of your dial-up performance in some cases, pages will displayed more swiftly than on a DSL. "
"Although, the connecting speed indicated “same speed” as before (i.e. 28.8K, 36K, 48K, 53K) your surfing is dramatically faster, pages that previously took almost 30 seconds to load, can now be viewed in less than 7 seconds, on average, and sometimes even faster! Within few days you will notice dramatic improvement of your dial-up performance in some cases, pages will displayed more swiftly than on a DSL."
they also pretty much claim that you can run aol, and other services on top of their connection, virtually eliminating the service of the other company.
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statecop
Premium
join:2002-09-16
Beverly Hills, CA | Go get 'em! I hope Bellsouth makes them understand the error of their ways! I am also sick of seeing these dialups trying to cheat people that dont know any better. It is usually the older people and newbies they target. | |
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thecraftyb
join:2004-03-29
Alpharetta, GA | down with false advertising yeah, i want to see those kinds of misleading ads dissappear too, but lets not think Bellsouth is some great moral leader looking out for consumers
If it wasn't costing Bellsouth profits, you can bet they wouldn't give a rats ass | |
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schnuggles
Stays Crunchy In Milk
join:2003-06-07
Deming, NM
| Re: Go get 'em! It would be good to see these "snake oil" ads take a dive. I have an acceleration package for my cell modem, which runs at only 14.4k. The compression is very good for folks that load the same set of pages every day, and useless for pretty much everything else. It does not, as the ad states, "provide browsing equivalent to 56k."
I'm going to watch this one, may pursue something similar on this end.
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TheEternalTroll
join:2000-12-01
Knoxville, TN | Re: Go get 'em! Kinda like how the apple ads for the g5 were banned in the EU. Those ads and these are equally false. | |
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bigdaddy17
join:2003-05-08
Miami, FL
| sick of adds! I think they are just trying to shorten the Simpsons or even the Chappelle Show but how many of you guys get the same damn NetZero Hi-Speed Internet crap.. comes in the mail.. (hey AOL CD's make good for throwing around:)) TV.. radio.. billboards.. buses.. they mise will just paint the whole town red, black and white. | |
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join:2000-11-02
Atlanta, GA
| Re: sick of adds! I hate Joi internet services. Have a few friends that thought it would be cheaper than DSL, they get Joi service and then I get these calls from them telling me thier PC's are running slow. Go to take a look at it, and they are complaining that the internet time is slow. "But I have Joi internet accelerator" they tell me. I have to spend 30 minutes trying to explain it all to them (and some have problems just turning on the PC.)
At least Bellsouth does not advertise thier accelerator as being close to DSL speeed. I see those Joi billboard on the road and on the Marta trains all the time. Smoke and mirrors is all it is. | |
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