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| Re: 1.5 Tell me about it. I wish it would come here so I could dump Comcast. They are my only option and I hate them.
I wonder what other features there will be. Like static ip's and server operations. I need something bad in my home for this. I have excellent Nextel coverage where I am. I would easily pay $75 per month for their service. | |
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| Re: 1.5 said by ropeguru : Tell me about it. I wish it would come here so I could dump Comcast. They are my only option and I hate them.
I wonder what other features there will be. Like static ip's and server operations. I need something bad in my home for this. I have excellent Nextel coverage where I am. I would easily pay $75 per month for their service.
i hope your not planning to run servers off of this | |
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join:2000-08-12 Saxapahaw, NC
| IP addresses are likely to be private ones (i.e. 10.X). Nextel is also employing transparent firewalling to keep certain types of traffic from entering or leaving their network. Don't start salivating just yet. This is a web surfing, email checking product. No wireless provider in their right mind would let the typical DSLR/BBR power user on their network without a leash.
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1 edit | If you read the tech docs the service will see burst speeds of 3mbps, bout the same as cable. Upload around 384 and low latency. Supposedly easy to deploy as well, with them just plugging the base station into their IP network. Woo hoo. I too cant wait untill they deploy it nationally.
It is also expected to cost around 40-50/month according to flarions estimate, however it looks like Nextel bumbed up that price. | |
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join:2003-03-12 US | Count me as one of those included.. highest package offered at my ISP is 960/320 which really equals about 770/270 for $55/mo ..  | |
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join:2000-11-19 Sayville, NY | Cingular's got something new...
Sounds great, but Cingular's got something new to throw into the mix. A "MEdia Plan" for 19.99 a month that somehow includes unlimited GPRS data, available as an add-on to voice plans. May be slow, but a heck of a deal. | |
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T-Mobile had that for a year now.... | |
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Another selling point of Flash OFDM technology is that it offers less than 20 milliseconds of latency and full QoS | |
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join:1999-09-01 New Jersey | Nextel PTT When i think of nextel, i think of push to talk, i dont think data. Plus i dont think nextel will attract the average person to this. we will see. -- Products unsupported in the USA, so far. Dell PC and Netgear | |
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| Re: Nextel PTT said by DaveNJ : When i think of nextel, i think of push to talk, i dont think data. Plus i dont think nextel will attract the average person to this. we will see.
Nextel has horrible customer relations. Dealing with them is like talking to the IRS not a business. I dont know whats wrong with them. Yeah yeah we all have complaints against some company one way or the other, but nextel just caters too much to production type people.
They need to concentrate on aquiring more customers, but they dont seem to have a problem with holding such a small peice of the marketshare so whatever floats their boat. -- I tie a rope around my penis and jump from a tree, don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!!!! | |
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2 edits | Re: Nextel PTT said by Nightfall : said by vic102482 : said by DaveNJ : When i think of nextel, i think of push to talk, i dont think data. Plus i dont think nextel will attract the average person to this. we will see.
Nextel has horrible customer relations. Dealing with them is like talking to the IRS not a business. I dont know whats wrong with them. Yeah yeah we all have complaints against some company one way or the other, but nextel just caters too much to production type people.
They need to concentrate on aquiring more customers, but they dont seem to have a problem with holding such a small peice of the marketshare so whatever floats their boat.
Gee, Nextel won an award for best wireless customer service from JD Power and Associates last year I believe.
If you want to hear really crappy customer service, call Sprint. 
Dont get me wrong their customer service is good, fast answer times short waits, Im talking about their busiess strategy, contract terms etc.etc.. They are like what AOL has degraded to now without the 20 million customers;).
The non=existance of a family plan, the low minutes and slim features make that evident. They are BANKING on PTT. Cant have your eggs in one basket. While nextels wireless internet service will be the fastest they are the LAST to come to the table. Years behind other carries that have people locked in contracts:).
Nextel is good to longtime customers Im sure, but that doesnt mean jack when you cant get new meat in.:). -- I tie a rope around my penis and jump from a tree, don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!!!! | |
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join:2002-01-03 Schererville, IN
| Try att its non existant. When you talk with them on the phone they do everything on an imaginary keyboard. That way when you get your 1,200 dollar bill because you were roaming the whole time even though they told you that you were switched to a no roaming plan, and then call them up they have no record that you tried to change it. Then 10 minutes of bitching before they decide to believe you and knock the charges off and then reinstate the no roaming plan. They then end the conversation with, You may have to do this again next month if you get charged for roaming again. Its like WTF. | |
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join:2001-12-28 Earth
| As long as it doesn't use proprietary devices. I think this is a great thing... as long as I'm not forced to use some proprietary PC card to use it. My sister has Sprint PCS, and while slower, she doesn't have to use some wonky (and generally Windows-only) PC (PCMCIA) card to use it. I've seen a few that force you to install some useless card.
So, cell phone companies: Listen. People like me will never use your service if you use proprietary cards. If you let me use a Bluetooth phone and industry-standard protocols then I will. And it has to support at very least Mac OS X (Linux would be nice, too) in addition to the ubiquitous Windows support. Otherwise, screw your proprietary technology.
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join:2001-12-28 Earth
| Re: As long as it doesn't use proprietary devices. I should add:
If these devices do not use Bluetooth, USB-to-phone cable or Wifi then I won't use the service.
Also, if they make me install some sort of proprietary software on my computer I most likely won't use it, either.
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| said by MrTangent : as long as I'm not forced to use some proprietary PC card to use it.
Well then how do you plan on connecting to the network? Flarion's OFDM is not available through the phone, so that leaves no choice but to use PC cards. | |
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join:2001-12-28 Earth
| Re: As long as it doesn't use proprietary devices. said by Jeremy341 : Well then how do you plan on connecting to the network? Flarion's OFDM is not available through the phone, so that leaves no choice but to use PC cards.
Then I guess I'll never use Flarion's OFDM then. There's no reason why they can't build the technology in to the phones, and then allow you to Bluetooth from the computer to the phone on to the network.
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| Re: As long as it doesn't use proprietary devices. said by MrTangent : There's no reason why they can't build the technology in to the phones
Why would they build it into the phone when it's absolutely useless to the phone? It'll just add to the size and cost of the phone, when there's absolutely no need. The vast majority of people don't care about having to slide in a PC card to use the wireless network. | |
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| Re: As long as it doesn't use proprietary devices. said by Jeremy341 : Why would they build it into the phone when it's absolutely useless to the phone? It'll just add to the size and cost of the phone, when there's absolutely no need. The vast majority of people don't care about having to slide in a PC card to use the wireless network.
The main reason for these cellular wireless plans is to allow the phone on the network. Most of these phones have built-in browsers, e-mail capability, etc. The computer "piggy-backing" on to the network is secondary. That's why it should be built-in to the phone.
Unless we're talking about WiMax. Then that should be built in to the computer itself.
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join:2002-12-17 Dupo, IL | C'mon Nextel This may be the only alternative I ever get at my location for BB. Even though I'm 5 minutes outside St. Louis no provider can get me anything less than a $500 a month T1. Go Nextel! | |
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@rr.com | Re: Alternative for lots of people Check the nextel broadband web site to see that their service is tier'd and to get 1.5 mb service, the cost is not competitive with cable. the cable competitive price point only provides for 750kb down/215 up. | |
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join:2002-05-31 Durham, NC
| Ordered today and will report back on this thread
I ordered the service today and asked for a Platinum service level and PCMCIA card since I plan to use this around Durham and RTP. I sure hope this works out and will report back technical discoveries and details if yall are interested.
Some things I noticed.
1. They ran a credit check and asked for CC. The credit check involved answering some address history account and details.
2. They recorded my conversation and made me say that I would abide by the AUP and what not.
HTH -- "We drive into the future using only our rearview mirror." Marshall McLuhan | |
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join:2003-05-08 Miami, FL | uh huh.. and what is there to upload from a cellphone?? | |
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| Re: uh huh.. said by bigdaddy17 : and what is there to upload from a cellphone??
This service has absolutely nothing to do with cell phones, aside from the fact that it's being offered by a cellular company. The service is used by PCs. | |
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join:2004-03-28 Bellflower, CA
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| Re: uh huh.. I just have Verizon Wireless Broadband Acess (in San Diego, EVDO area)for about a week, $79/month - 1 year contract, $299 for thier Airprime 5220 PC Card. Speed usually around 70KB/s download(=~ 700Kbps), I was on 24/7 for the past 7 days with only 1 lost connection (I'm on IRC all the time, so I logged whenever I got disconnected)
So far so good, I don't really have any complaining about wireless connection. Go Verizonnn !!! | |
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join:2000-04-16 Wheeling, WV | Test User in Raleigh Been on the trial for two days now and the speeds go up and down depending on the coverage signal. Its a freebe for the first 6 months so I'll report back after I have had it for a few weeks. | |
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@knology.net | Gee..........That would better that what I get now
My company has the Nextel wireless internet using the Motorola cards. The most we ever connect to the internet is 19.2k. It is pretty much a joke for use other than the web application we use. Can't do much else and coverage goes in and out. | |
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