 komal
join:2003-02-16 | They suck They make bloatware. It annoys me when people use their format. Use real alternative. | |
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join:2002-03-17
Grand Forks, ND | Re: They suck I stopped using Real Player years ago, never looked back either and I dont plan on going back unless lots of people say that it truly is good. | |
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join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | Re: They suck I don't get why many sites are using real media files for their audio/video streaming files. I just skip to a different site because I hate to install real player crap. | |
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BIGMIKE
"I do not know with what weapons World W
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA | Re: They suck NASA use real media files, it most have summing to do with MAC. | |
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
 ·Packet8
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| Re: They suck said by BIGMIKE  :
NASA use real media files, it most have summing to do with MAC.
Not really because Quicktime's streaming format works on Mac and is far, far better than Real or Microsoft's formats.
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Communism never failed, because it never existed...
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join:2003-02-16 | Re: They suck Yeah, given a choice, quicktime is my preferred format. But mostly because it can't be easily streamed, so I can download the videos. | |
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SND2005
Premium
join:2001-09-15
Im Over Here
 ·CWLab
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April 6th, @04:54PM
| @Jaded Cynical Centrist Idealist
Hardly, Microsofts codecs for HD content kick the living crap out of anything Quicktime or Real could hope to produce.
If your machine can handle it, check out the following
»www.microsoft.com/windows/window···ase.aspx | |
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join:2003-02-16
| Re: They suck Hardly what? Aren't you just echoing the rest of us? When MS first introduced WMP9 and the codecs, it released this page
»www.microsoft.com/windows/window···lity.asp
for the user to see if their system was powerful enough. | |
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SND2005
Premium
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Im Over Here | Re: They suck Read & understand the entire thread before you comment. | |
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join:2003-02-16
| Re: They suck said by SND2005 :
Read & understand the entire thread before you comment.
Before you make yourself look foolish, you should clarify what you're responding to. | |
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SND2005
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Im Over Here
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join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | Re: They suck Not exactly. Did you put in the factor of compression ratios? WMV can deliver a great video/sound stream in a fraction of quicktime's format. | |
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
·Packet8
·Cox HSI
| Re: They suck The compression ratio for WMP is about all that's in its favor... Artifacting, distortion, etc. happen much more with in than with other codecs, excluding Real. Realplayer's codec is probably the worst I've seen when it comes to problems like artifacting and distortion.
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join:2003-02-16 | Re: They suck When I need to cut down a movie's size, I use WMP format, I rarely notice a quality drop, and it reduces the size by up to (for me) 42%. | |
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join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | What bandwidth settings have you been using?? If you put 1.5 megabit bandwidth for audio/video streaming when encoding, the quality is very very good! | |
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join:2003-02-16 | Re: They suck Yeah, that's what I use. For some reason the supposedly higher quality settings have lower bitrates. But I use the encoding designed for streaming to 1.5 megabit connections, pretty much the highest quality possible with WMV format. | |
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join:2000-12-11
Detroit, MI
| Unless I am mistaken, major sites who use Real Media are GIVEN space on the REAL networks servers for FREE. This is a good reason to use them - ask, ABC News, CBS News... and all the other major sites that offer no choice. EXCLUSIVE AGREEMENT = FREE | |
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mibagent_x
Go giggle the handle
Premium
join:2001-03-04
Barnhart, MO
clubs: | Re: They suck Ya know you could have made the org. presentation with Real then convert it right? | |
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BIGMIKE
"I do not know with what weapons World W
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA
| They They suck
NO THEY do no suck,it stinks, it stinks it stinks! | |
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join:2003-07-01
Boynton Beach, FL | Re: I like the marketing spin how about 'never'
10 is the same old junk, i dont see what's changed at all
registration is about the lames feature they could think up | |
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danamaste
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Liberty, MO
| About time Actually, I'll believe it when I see it. As far as I'm concerned, "Real" is one of the biggest messes out there. The hooks and pure garbage in the software are inexcusable. I'd rather NOT watch video, than use Real Player.
Don't want it on Web Sites. Don't want it on my machine. | |
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NoFatChicks
No, I'M The Exon And You're The Intron
join:2002-06-15
Blountsville, AL
| They make Microsoft look competent. What got me off Real Audio, was a few years ago, I was installing their player and it said something like ‘your audio files are associated with another program, do you want to fix this deficiency’, as though it was somehow my set up that was wrong - how pushy. Oh, and they are BIG supporters of the DNC, so that sealed the deal on me never using them ever again. | |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
·Cingular Wireless
| Re: They make Microsoft look competent. said by NoFatChicks :
Oh, and they are BIG supporters of the DNC, so that sealed the deal on me never using them ever again.
hahaha...with friends like that, who needs enemies? | |
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A-Non-e-moose
@155.58.x.x
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Oh, and they are BIG supporters of the DNC, so that sealed the deal on me never using them ever again.
I can think of a bunch of other reasons beside that lame one not to like Real Networks. | |
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vitalus
join:2003-12-17
Sugar Land, TX
| why real player when thre better There so many codecs out there, and real player in my use of there player falls way short - I have downloaded almost all free players out there to watch: movies / slides / music and anything. There are other free players out there that have better quality and play more files that have extended codecs in them- so in short search and you will find better real player falls short. | |
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Premium
join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
| Re: why real player when thre better said by vitalus :
There so many codecs out there, and real player in my use of there player falls way short - I have downloaded almost all free players out there to watch: movies / slides / music and anything. There are other free players out there that have better quality and play more files that have extended codecs in them- so in short search and you will find better real player falls short.
When the content you want to see is in RealMedia format, you don't have the luxury of choosing to use a different codec. | |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | best thing to do is you and your friends lobby the people that only supply content in real format and demand more widely used codecs (like WM9) | |
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Premium
join:2003-12-18
San Diego, CA
| Re: why real player when thre better said by inteller :
best thing to do is you and your friends lobby the people that only supply content in real format and demand more widely used codecs (like WM9)
WM9 is still proprietary, so it's not much of an improvement. A more standardized codec, like MPEG4, would be much nicer. | |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
·Comcast
| Yeah?` quote:
Tries to repair 'bloated junk' image
Yeah, well good luck with that...
I doubt very many new people are going to want to ride your train because you painted it a new color (after you ran it down into a ravine).
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join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | Real sucks This thread alone should be enough to prove how bad it is. No matter what we talk about, there is always at least someone who disagrees. I have yet to see one person say anything close to being good about real. | |
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| cgrrguyTO
join:2001-09-21
Toronto, ON | Re: Real sucks I'll give it a shot on my quarantined machine in a few months. Should just about be due for a format/reinstall by then anyhow. Otherwise, I wouldn't even consider it. | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·AT&T Yahoo
|  Spyware, bloatware, hijacks file associations
tarnished as Real Networks. And Real Alternative is a
good substitute. It's just too bad that the majority of
the Internet's streaming content is in their format. And
after the trouble people had with Real One, how can anyone
in their right mind trust the company? Their record on
privacy is almost as bad as Doubleclick's, and that says
a lot about them, none of it good. And yes, their player
still tries to hijack file associations, and though I have
never encountered it personally, others have.
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Hypn0tyze
Adam
join:2001-05-13
BOOM | Re: MuSt DiE lol ata lo shave shekel echat! | |
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lawrence171
Evilly Yours - Evilness
join:2001-12-24
Canada | Good News RealPlayer 10 does show a good attempt in correcting their ways. | |
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mrchris
America the pitiful
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Let's not forget this... 
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shellenberg
Premium
join:2003-12-20
Salmo, BC
| But tin cans rule! I know people that actually use Real Player to play MP3s. But I keep reminding myself that transistor radios were the rage when I was a kid, so plenty of people grew up having no sense of what good audio quality is.  | |
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Theo25
@attbi.com
| Never liked Real Player I have never liked RP and its been that way for years. Anytime I get something that uses thier format I don't even bother with it. I am actually impressed with MS's WMV format, its quality has become as good as avi/mpeg in a very short time, I used to hate it but now I'm starting to favor it as one of the better formats for size/quality. | |
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Selecter
join:2003-11-23
Charles Town, WV | actually, the OS X player is not bad at all..... it is small, it stays out of your way unless called on, it does not hijack all your file types, and it doesnt have any spy/nagware.
They should be the first company to port their own app FROM Mac back to the PC, they could do a lot worse. | |
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tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
·Verizon Online DSL
| It it too bad they blew it I rooted for Real for a long time. They pioneered streaming media and I hoped they would be smart enough to profit from it. Instead they annoyed their customers by being greedy and ceded the market to Microsoft. The recent versions of the player are virtually unusable and trying to even find the free player on the Real site is a challenge. Luckily I saved Version 8, which is what I currently use. When it comes to streaming audio I prefer the Real Player to MS media player bound to an IE Window.
They will try to turn around but I fear it is too late. They have so angered their supporter I see no way they can succeed. This problem is not limited to Real – I stopped using the latest version of Adobe reader for the same reason. It is sad watching the hubris of Netscape all over again.
Hopefully this will act as a wakeup call to other startups to figure out a way to be profitable without annoying your customers - but that is not really likely.
/Tom
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Slow Motion
join:2001-04-05
Timmonsville, SC |  Re: It it too bad they blew it
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Real Networks Wakes Up
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