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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA | Other states should follow This is great, other states should follow now, and I hope that gets pushed through congress and other parties rather quickly.
I wonder how long it will take before companies start moving over sea's to continue spyware & malware practices. | |
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Julio
Bachatero y Que?
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join:2003-03-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | great!!! this is great!!! Spyware is as bad and sometimes even worst then viruses to removed from your system. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I agree, most of these spyware apps do not have installers/uninstallers, and end up installing dll's as well as making changes to your browsers searching options. | |
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Tuvok9
Rangcor The Great
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join:2004-03-04
Fairview Heights, IL
clubs:
| I hope Illinois follows Utah image Think it is a good idea and that all of the states and countries should follow Utah's example. If we don't stop spyware that may harm computer system or programs, we might as well download every program with the spyware as if it was to work with the system. | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Hollywood, FL
clubs: | Supreme Court??? I wonder how long it will take for all the big boys, Microsoft, AOL and the like, to get this to the Supreme Court and get it rescended by paying off the judges??? | |
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| footballdude
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| Re: Supreme Court??? said by ropeguru  :
I wonder how long it will take for all the big boys, Microsoft, AOL and the like, to get this to the Supreme Court and get it rescended by paying off the judges???
Why would someone with a lifetime appointment to a high paying and highly prestigous job risk impeachment by taking a bribe? Any bribe big enough to buy someone in that position couldn't be held secret for very long. | |
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DSL_Steve
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join:2003-11-28
Woodbury, CT
| Re: Supreme Court??? [QUOTE= footballdude Why would someone with a lifetime appointment to a high paying and highly prestigous job risk impeachment by taking a bribe? Any bribe big enough to buy someone in that position couldn't be held secret for very long.
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Its not a bribe when some lobbyist gives *gifts*. | |
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| Re: Supreme Court??? said by DSL_Steve :
Its not a bribe when some lobbyist gives *gifts*.
People lobby Congress but I don't think I've ever heard of someone lobbying Supreme Court Justices. | |
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hailinfantry
Bizarro Quinn
Premium
join:2004-01-18
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: Supreme Court??? said by footballdude :
said by DSL_Steve :
Its not a bribe when some lobbyist gives *gifts*.
People lobby Congress but I don't think I've ever heard of someone lobbying Supreme Court Justices.
You can't lobby a judge. A judge must be impartial. It's a felony offense to even suggest a bribe to even the lowest of judges. I don't feel that a federal anti-spyware bill would overrule a state bill if the state bill had broader limits. The state has the right to build upon existing federal statutes. If there was a federal law specifically stating that spyware was legal, then that would overrule the Utah law. The constitutionality of this law would go to the Utah supreme court first--since it will appear in their annotated laws/codes. | |
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Safron
join:2001-07-25
Gray, GA
clubs:
| It won't be the Supreme Court.
Measures are already running through the House and Senate that are not as restrictive as the Utah bill. These will be passed by the Federal government, nullifying Utah's bill.
Just my opinion, same as with the spam bills. | |
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Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Re: Supreme Court??? Actually it can go there. If people take the companies to court over the Utah law. | |
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justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
Brooklyn, NY
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Console Tech
| Re: Supreme Court??? true, how about taking them for rides in a private jet, saving them from flying coach, and bringing them on lavish hunting trips with VIPs .. it appears they only need then to write a 21 page rebuttal to any nasty accusations this may sway them in an upcoming judgement, and case closed. | |
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justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Supreme Court??? I agree. At last when it comes to spyware appeals. | |
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Premium
join:2003-12-29
Bolton, MA
| said by Backspace :
Maybe I'm an idealist but I believe that the judges are above reproach. It doesn't make sense that they would take any type of gift or payment for a decision about spyware when it was the same judges who chose the last President.;)
I think you prove the point right there; They certainly showed they were not above reproach before so why wouldn't they do it again?
I don't think it is required, though, as a Federal law would override the Utah law just as CAM-SPAM overrode other state laws regarding spam. | |
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whizkid3
Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-21
Queens, NY | Justin, Bravo! | |
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kjl1977
join:2003-02-20
Bolingbrook, IL
| We'll see.... I think it's a good thing. If these legit companies are going to install anything that is 'critical'  - they should have to come right out and say it during the install process (no fine print in the endless user agreement) - it should say it in big bold letters and make you check a box to acknowledge it.
Besides, most spyware is malware put on by crappy websites. | |
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Sr Tech
Premium
join:2003-01-19
New Fairfield, CT | Customers Privacy I guess all the companies listed do not really care about your privacy when it comes to marketing. The only answer I can come up with is Money and Marketing. I hope this bill goes Nation Wide. | |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| Re: Customers Privacy Or it could be that such companies are worried about being implicated for things that have nothing to do with spyware by a law that does not clearly identify it's purpose. Ie WinXP's product activation, or auto updater.
But then again we all like laws that make us feel better no matter what the actual impact; hence CAN-SPAM.
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs: | And AOL has big center in Utah Wonder how that will affect them having a presence just north of me?
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL
| Re: And AOL has big center in Utah Well, if they attempt to close it, here's some advice for the Utah legislature.
0 Jail the highest ranking AOL suit you can catch.
1 Confiscate the facility. It's an installation devoted to the criminal installation of spyware on Utah computers.
2 Sufficiently Fine AOl and its parent company to keep the employees paid.
3 Use the employees as a spyware help hotline. You'll have these little Mata Haroids all eliminated in no time | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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"Remember when hacking a loogy it comes not so much from the lungs but from the soul." | |
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL
|  Bra-vo!
Every one of this large scale ISPs - SBC, Verizon, Earthlink, ect, shoves spyware in with its installation software.
Up to date computers while privacy penetrated they can usually soldier on infected. Older machines running windows or 98 can look forward to an OS reinstall.
I'm encouraged by the legislation. I'll believe it's for real when i hear the suits that ordered the cr*p installed - not call center wage slaves - going to the big house for it. | |
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cybercrimes
join:2003-12-24
Phoenixville, PA | spyware i hope PA. will do the same thing im geting tired of my pc geting slow and filld with spyware. | |
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Varangian
join:2002-12-08
Collinsville, IL
| You know..
the main thing you DON'T want to do is INSERT THE INSTALLATION DISK.
That's where the spyware is.
Connectivity can inevitably be achieved with a third party application. Research FIRST.
Forewarned is forearmed. | |
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slipstreamer
join:2004-03-24
Mastic Beach, NY
| Capitol punishment for spyware violators I think Capitol punishment would be fitting for Spyware/adware/virus, creators. Sure, it sounds extreme. But, when you really think about it who will miss them? (anyone who says they will miss them will also be shot as a traitor) Additionally think about all the natural resources we'll be saving. Conserving on the fuel, water, electricity, etc. that they would otherwise be using in their daily lives. | |
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