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Deployment extends further into The Bronx and Brooklyn
06:27PM Tuesday Nov 04 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: Fiber · business
As part of their franchise agreement with New York City, Verizon has promised to have the entire city wired for service by 2014. Unfortunately, the wimpy wording of the agreement and Verizon's history of wiggling out of deployment agreements make it very likely Verizon will buy their way out of the deal before really hitting 100% coverage. Still, they'll probably get a good deal of the city wired, and this week announced that about 400,000 New York City homes in 108 neighborhoods across all five boroughs can now get service.

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Vathral
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New York, NY
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Manhattan!

Bah, where is the love for the best borough

manhattan12345

@mindspring.com

Re: Manhattan!

We will be the last one to get anything nice. Sign....

said by Vathral See Profile :

Bah, where is the love for the best borough

nfixit2004
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join:2004-01-06
Brooklyn, NY

I say it every time....

Still not in my part of Brooklyn BedStuy 11216, this is the city, all other areas mentioned is still the Burbs.We probably will be last 8(

heat84

join:2004-03-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL

South Florida

What about the sixth borough?
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: South Florida

Nursing homes don't need FIOS.
rob27
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join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL

rest of us

and the rest of us will get fucked with pay per byte.. and higher price tags...

-Rob

dvd536
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Re: rest of us

said by rob27 See Profile :

and the rest of us will get fucked with pay per byte.. and higher price tags.
Aren't "havenot" areas great! I'm blessed with qwest.
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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

pathetic

»factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DT···_lang=en

400 000 / (508 559 + 959 408 + 844 343 + 835 541 + 177 973) = 0.120270946

12%, pathetic, when 28% of Verizon's passed homes company wide have FIOS.
CopperMux

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Re: pathetic

said by patcat88 See Profile :

»factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DT···_lang=en

400 000 / (508 559 + 959 408 + 844 343 + 835 541 + 177 973) = 0.120270946

12%, pathetic, when 28% of Verizon's passed homes company wide have FIOS.
Considering they didnt have the franchise until a few months ago, 12% is excellent.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: pathetic

They began the buildout in 2004 in Bayside Queens. They began NYC before they adopted the "no franchise, no FIOS buildout" policy.
CopperMux

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Re: pathetic

said by patcat88 See Profile :

They began the buildout in 2004 in Bayside Queens. They began NYC before they adopted the "no franchise, no FIOS buildout" policy.
They began then but only started a full scale push when the TV rights kicked in. 12% since then in densely populated areas is GREAT work. With all the MDU issues, it is a stellar number.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: pathetic

»Re: haha

Turns out I need to update my 28%, its been a while since I recalculated it.

»newscenter.verizon.com/press-rel···ios.html

11.9 million passed

1/(33/11.9) = 0.360606061

36% passed, compared to 12% for NYC.

Daddy

join:2007-12-07
Bronx, NY
·Optimum Online

Not for me >_>

Well I'm in the South Bronx, and I fear we wont be getting it here til 2014. As we're not considered 'profitable' just yet.

This sucks but I guess it's nothing I/we can do about it...

Don't get me wrong I like my ISP but a little competition never hurt.
br1an

join:2003-09-21
Syracuse, NY

Karl shows his anti-Verizon bias once again

Considering Fios has only been offered to NYC for such a short time, 400k possible subscribers is a great number. Leave it to Karl to bring up some irrelivent issue from 1994, before the growth of the internet as we know it, and before Verizon was even known as Verizon. Reading your headlines is just painful because your thinly veiled bias against Verizon always shows through no matter what the news is. Even if you have to dig through the archives to find something from 1994 you always try to find a way to tarnish Verizon's image. This is supposed to be a site where we can find an unbiased report on all internet services, and I think we would all appreciate it if you would at least try to pretend to give us an unbiased report on them. Thanks Karl, next time just post the facts, ok?

swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
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Re: Karl shows his anti-Verizon bias once again

And he posts articles about Comcast, At&t, etc.... that aren't exactly good PR. So, who is he biased for?
cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

Re: Karl shows his anti-Verizon bias once again

biased against anything and everything that isn't his way or corporations that aren't spending TRILLIONS to get FTTH to every house by noon tomorrow?

FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
·Verizon FIOS

Manhattan is easy.

Manhattan is easy to wire. You got all kinds of options to place cables and nodes and stuff. In brooklyn it's totally different, and in the bronx it is too. The conditions found in each part of the city are very different from manhattan and each other. People need to remember this before complaining about things like this. Sure they've done crap things in the past, but manhattan is the smallest borough by size and population, and because of the infrastructure all ready in place will be the easiest to hook up with fios. Natural to do the hard stuff first where it's actually a challenge. City wants the outer boroughs connected before manhattan, this leaves verizon in a situation where it basically has to finish or face being sued by who knows how many people.

- A
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ddg4005
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November 5th, @08:41AM

Re: Manhattan is easy.

Staten Island is the smallest borough in terms of population and has been heavily wired already. Verizon started offering Fios there back toward the end of 2005.

If anything the agreement requires most of Manhattan to be wired before other boroughs except SI. This means that someone in Manhattan has a better chance of seeing it before I do (I live in the Bronx). And while a lot of my borough has been wired there's still plenty of neighborhoods that can't get the service. So here's hoping that Verizon begins an aggressive push to offer Fios to as many MDU-dwelling residents in 2009 as possible.
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H3nrch

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Manhattan is technically easy to wire, but for it to be worth Verizon's time, money, and effort they need to have enough building penetration (hence subscribers) around each CO. As a parallel example, I've been trying to get TWC for television and backup Internet access into my office building and they won't do it until they know they can get at least $10,000/mo total revenue. On top of that the landlord is not keen on allowing yet another company to setup conduits throughout the building. Verizon faces similar challenges with landlords when they want to do anything more than run copper to and from existing demarcs.
cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

MMMmmmmm FUD

i like that part on how verizon will weasel their way out of getting precisely 100% coverage, good job with the FUD there.
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